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Old 29.04.2021, 19:13
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Via GP or on the website? There is a person on the forum who is in similar situation (cancelled due to urgent surgery) and cannot get a new appointment.
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Re: When can we take covid vaccine

The administration has been very patchy.

A couple of months ago I got an information sheet from my Gemeinde that I should do nothing about vaccination, just wait for my invitation.

I ignored this, registered with the website, and got the jab a couple of weeks ago. Still no invitation from anyone, I suspect many older, not computer literate people are even now waiting for their invites.
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Re: When can we take covid vaccine

Re AZ: the problem is thrombosis as a rare but severe side effect. It seems to occur more often in younger people, which is why Germany was discussing limiting the use of AZ to those over 60 (dunno what they ended up deciding). J&J may have similar issues.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...solved/618623/

https://www.who.int/news/item/16-04-...nd-covishield)

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Jura Canton opening up vaccination for 16+ year olds.
That’s great news. Vaud has also now opened up appointments for all adults. I am really looking forward to my appointment for the first jab. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t particularly want to get COVID, but I am far more relieved about the idea of not having to be Patient Zero in somebody’s epidemiological analysis. For me, I want to get vaccinated because its the right thing to do for everyone around me. I don’t want to have to worry about the people who might have gotten sick because I chose to wait longer than I had to (whether I know about it or not). But that’s me.
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Jura Canton opening up vaccination for 16+ year olds.
Meanwhile over in Schwyz...

Just saw on my GP's website that they are temporarily discontinuing vaccinations at the Praxis due to delivery delays.



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Old 30.04.2021, 08:12
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Luzern has started to send appointments to the under-65s, dates starting next week.
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Sorry if it's an obvious question but have they actually registered for it? I was pretty sure that all Kantons had now gone well past the over-80s. Some very elderly people might well be under the impression that they will be proactively contacted by their GP. And they may not be very internet-savvy so perhaps someone can help them?
I did ask that, and they confirmed that they had, however I'm very skeptical. Agree with second point, at least anecdotally I've heard of a number of more elderly either being ignorant of the need to register for a vaccine, or being unable to do it.
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Re: When can we take covid vaccine

It seems that what my HR person told me is indeed true - and well guys, you can register in any canton for the most part. Although it is causing some chaos, perhaps some of you should take advantage in the cantons who have opened it up to everybody (since the most at-risk have already had the chance):

https://www.20min.ch/story/impftouri...n-979324677635
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It seems that what my HR person told me is indeed true - and well guys, you can register in any canton for the most part. Although it is causing some chaos, perhaps some of you should take advantage in the cantons who have opened it up to everybody (since the most at-risk have already had the chance):

https://www.20min.ch/story/impftouri...n-979324677635
When I've got my 1st vaccine two days ago here in Vaud, they double checked my address verbally. Afterwards I called the Vaud hotline to make an appointment for my partner (at the same time as my 2nd dose is scheduled), they asked me that he has to bring additional a proof of residency to confirm his address in Vaud e.g. electricity bill etc.
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Old 30.04.2021, 10:07
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It seems that what my HR person told me is indeed true - and well guys, you can register in any canton for the most part. Although it is causing some chaos, perhaps some of you should take advantage in the cantons who have opened it up to everybody (since the most at-risk have already had the chance):

https://www.20min.ch/story/impftouri...n-979324677635
When I registered online for the vaccine, the Aargau website showed my address and asked to confirm. I'm not sure if my address was linked to my name of my health card number. Anyway, the data is stored somewhere and the vaccine registration system had access to it. Not sure what have happened if the address was from another canton.
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Old 30.04.2021, 10:14
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It seems that what my HR person told me is indeed true - and well guys, you can register in any canton for the most part. Although it is causing some chaos, perhaps some of you should take advantage in the cantons who have opened it up to everybody (since the most at-risk have already had the chance):

https://www.20min.ch/story/impftouri...n-979324677635
That’s true in theory, it even says it on the Neuchâtel website, but I think in practice it’s not quite as easy as that.
Most cantons, understandably, are prioritising residents of that canton. If case numbers and hospitalisations increase dramatically again for whatever reason it will be the cantons dealing with it so they’ll want to make sure as many of their residents as possible have got the vaccine.
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Re: When can we take covid vaccine

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The vaccine is distributed according to the amount of population in the canton, thus the cantons are not interested to vaccinate the non-residents.
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When I've got my 1st vaccine two days ago here in Vaud, they double checked my address verbally. Afterwards I called the Vaud hotline to make an appointment for my partner (at the same time as my 2nd dose is scheduled), they asked me that he has to bring additional a proof of residency to confirm his address in Vaud e.g. electricity bill etc.
Interesting! I only think that is fair ... they did the same for me in Bern, only checked verbally - I actually brought a bill with me because I was concerned they would ask for physical proof.

I did register in Zurich and had an appointment - they openly allowed people from outside of the canton since they had a hard time filling their appointments initially. I felt guilty, but Bern had told me months. Bern opened up and I called to cancel my Zurich appointment in advance, they were very kind and didn't mind I was from Bern at all.
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... I called the Vaud hotline to make an appointment for my partner (at the same time as my 2nd dose is scheduled), they asked me that he has to bring additional a proof of residency to confirm his address in Vaud e.g. electricity bill etc.
The registration website is quite clear:

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Toute personne adulte résidant dans le canton de Vaud*
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It seems that what my HR person told me is indeed true - and well guys, you can register in any canton for the most part. Although it is causing some chaos, perhaps some of you should take advantage in the cantons who have opened it up to everybody (since the most at-risk have already had the chance):

https://www.20min.ch/story/impftouri...n-979324677635
You can only have the vaccine in Aargau as a non-resident if you work in the canton as a health professional or the like.
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Meanwhile over in Schwyz...

Just saw on my GP's website that they are temporarily discontinuing vaccinations at the Praxis due to delivery delays.



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To be honest, the ones opening up this early - it says more about their take-up than anything else as we all have more or less the same amount of vaccine in relation to our at risk population.
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The administration has been very patchy.

A couple of months ago I got an information sheet from my Gemeinde that I should do nothing about vaccination, just wait for my invitation.

I ignored this, registered with the website, and got the jab a couple of weeks ago. Still no invitation from anyone, I suspect many older, not computer literate people are even now waiting for their invites.
Why they haven't just sent everyone a letter in the risk groups saying "turn up at X location at Y time or ring up or use this internet link to rebook" I have no idea. Maintain a "joker list" to account for non-responders (text sent out saying be there in an hour to the keen younger folk) and bob's your uncle.

I know there will always be some people who kick up a fuss or thing this is a Bill Gates or George Soros plot, but there's no way only 55 or 60% want the vaccine. England is at 95% of the over 50s - I think the really at risk age groups are more like 97% or 98%.

The Swiss system is great for the proactive, young and internet savvy, but it really is not hitting the people it needs to hit. Lots of people who aren't antivaxxers but are basically just lazy and useless and will never do anything of their own volition. It should be an "opt-out" system, not an "opt-in". That's so obvious as to be a complete facepalm.

Its looking like I will be offered the vaccine here at almost exactly the same time I would in the UK - mid May (perhaps late May - I hope not though) - which says it all about the Swiss takeup when you look at the total numbers vaccinated compared to the uk.

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Re: When can we take covid vaccine

Article in the 20Minuten on 'Impftourismus':

https://www.20min.ch/story/impftouri...n-979324677635

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Because of the differences among the cantons in the speed of getting vaccines out, more and more people are registering in several cantons in order to get an earlier appointment. One person in the article has registered in 10 cantons, received three appointments... but none in his home canton Aargau.

Registering in multiple cantons, while understandable and practical, does lead to planning difficulties. Those who have multiple registrations are asked to cancel duplicate appointments early, otherwise it is possible that doses of the vaccine reserved for them end up being destroyed.

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But the goal remains: Get everyone vaccinated as quickly as possible.

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Für Oggier ist wichtig, das Hauptziel nicht aus den Augen zu verlieren: «Es geht darum, alle, die wollen, möglichst schnell zu impfen, um die Herdenimmunität zu erreichen. Da kann man nicht am Kantönligeist festhalten.» Das heisse aber auch, dass man konsequent sein müsse: «Wenn es Kantone gibt, die schneller sind, muss man den Trödelkantonen einen Teil ihres Impfstoffs wegnehmen und ihn den schnellen geben.»



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For (Gesundheitsökonom) Oggier, it is important not to lose sight of the main goal: "It is about vaccinating everyone who wants to as quickly as possible in order to achieve herd immunity. You can't stick to Kantönligeist here." But that also means being consistent: "If there are cantons that are faster, you have to take some of the vaccine away from the slow cantons and give it to the fast ones."
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I know there will always be some people who kick up a fuss or thing this is a Bill Gates or George Soros plot, but there's no way only 55 or 60% want the vaccine. England is at 95% of the over 50s - I think the really at risk age groups are more like 97% or 98%.
You need to remember that the Brits don't take responsibility for themselves so behave more like sheep, where the Swiss are used to taking personal responsibility hence the low take up. I blame the EU which mandated plugs on appliances as the risk of putting a plug was too high. My grandmother who died in 1976 taught me how to wire a plug when I was 6. Race to the bottom started in 1973.
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