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Mild side effects. No time off work. 28 63.64%
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Old 11.05.2021, 08:42
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"Shame for them" is different to "shame on them", but I don't know which was meant

What's the PC expression these days for "man-up"? "They've just got to man-up". "Grow a pair" also I guess isn't PC. I've been "piqued" more times now than I care to mention. The next test would be if I'm ever brave enough to insert a needle into a vein myself.
As long as it is not in vain.

My MD cousin got vaxed, still had covid after that (after the grace period). I think since they get more exposed in the hospital because of work, the bad luck is actually higher exposure and more of the viral load.

Dunno about good man-up equivalents...Pluck up? Harden up? Bite the bullet?

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Old 11.05.2021, 08:46
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As long as it is not in vain.

My MD cousin got vaxed, still had covid after that (after the grace period). I think since they get more exposed, the bad luck is actually higher exposure and more of the viral load.

Dunno about good man-up equivalents...Pluck up? Harden up? Bite the bullet?
Was your cousin asymptomatic, or sick, seriously sick, or in a hospital?
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Old 11.05.2021, 08:52
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Was your cousin asymptomatic, or sick, seriously sick, or in a hospital?
Very ill and for a couple of weeks, too. They are correct about Pfizer's 95%, I guess.
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Old 11.05.2021, 09:00
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I got my second Pfizer shot this afternoon and was surprised by how few people were at the vaccination centre compared to my first shot. And my excitement at getting my second shot was dulled when I learnt just now that our neighbour has tested positive for Covid despite having had his second shot 3 weeks ago :-(
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Have you been in Zurich Messe? My husband has had his second jab this afternoon as well and told me exactly the same when he returned.
I was at the Messe a few weeks ago with a friend, I was there for myself yesterday (Pfizer). I'd say there was substantially more people there yesterday. The first time I was there there was nobody outside, and inside there was never more than one person waiting before a cubicle.
Yesterday there was loads of people outside, and I think about 2 per cubicle waiting line. I think things are speeding up.
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Old 11.05.2021, 09:04
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I think things are speeding up.
I think this is self-explanatory since we all know Zurich just opened up to all groups and there was a complete free-for-all with hundreds of thousands of appointments booked in the space of a few hours.

Happy to hear everyone is getting Pfizer at the Messe, it's certainly the one I would prefer.
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Old 11.05.2021, 09:49
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Apologie if you already wrote this (I didn't see it) but did your husband get Pfizer from Zürich Messe?
It was his second time so he should have definitely had Pfizer. But in the other thread people wrote about Moderna being given at Messe recently.
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Old 11.05.2021, 10:26
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It was his second time so he should have definitely had Pfizer. But in the other thread people wrote about Moderna being given at Messe recently.
So far as I know, Moderna is not approved here in Switzerland for the second dose when the first one was Pfizer.
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So far as I know, Moderna is not approved here in Switzerland for the second dose when the first one was Pfizer.
Yup, the doses must be the same type.
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Old 11.05.2021, 10:34
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You know you're at a clinic or hospital in Switzerland when you see each member of the staff smoking a cigarette outside during their break.
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Old 11.05.2021, 10:48
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So far as I know, Moderna is not approved here in Switzerland for the second dose when the first one was Pfizer.
Yes and if they start giving booster jabs in the autumn this will also be with the same vaccine as the original two.

Our GP has already put us on the list for boosters in the autumn so it seems this will be the way forward.

My husband decided to get his Covid antibody levels checked when he had his regular diabetes check blood test this morning. We both had the vaccine in December/January so it will be interesting to see what his antibody levels are.
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Old 11.05.2021, 12:22
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So far as I know, Moderna is not approved here in Switzerland for the second dose when the first one was Pfizer.
Of course. But many people are still receiving their first dose these days.
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You know you're at a clinic or hospital in Switzerland when you see each member of the staff smoking a cigarette outside during their break.
Or indeed inside.
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Just had my first Moderna jab.
So far so good.
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Old 11.05.2021, 19:46
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Re: When can we take covid vaccine

I'm scheduled to receive my first dose tomorrow. It looks like it will be the Moderna vax since they had me schedule my second shot exactly four weeks after the first dose (whereas, with Pfizer, I believe it's three weeks later that you need the second dose).

Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me why Pfizer is or might be considered better than Moderna? Is it only because Pfizer is considered to be slightly more effective? (95% compared to 94.1% for Moderna)?
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I'm scheduled to receive my first dose tomorrow. It looks like it will be the Moderna vax since they had me schedule my second shot exactly four weeks after the first dose (whereas, with Pfizer, I believe it's three weeks later that you need the second dose).

Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me why Pfizer is or might be considered better than Moderna? Is it only because Pfizer is considered to be slightly more effective? (95% compared to 94.1% for Moderna)?
That's almost certainly not a statistically significant difference
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Old 11.05.2021, 20:12
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I'm scheduled to receive my first dose tomorrow. It looks like it will be the Moderna vax since they had me schedule my second shot exactly four weeks after the first dose (whereas, with Pfizer, I believe it's three weeks later that you need the second dose).

Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me why Pfizer is or might be considered better than Moderna? Is it only because Pfizer is considered to be slightly more effective? (95% compared to 94.1% for Moderna)?
The only meaningful difference seems to be the need for cooling. Some people have claimed that Moderna may have somewhat more side effects, but also there hardly any real data. Efficacy looks identical, and these efficacy rates are going to be nowhere as exact in reality.

On 2nd shot date, my wife had been given the second appointment exactly 4 wks after the first. And got Biontech.
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The only meaningful difference seems to be the need for cooling. Some people have claimed that Moderna may have somewhat more side effects, but also there hardly any real data. Efficacy looks identical, and these efficacy rates are going to be nowhere as exact in reality.

On 2nd shot date, my wife had been given the second appointment exactly 4 wks after the first. And got Biontech.
Thanks.

That's interesting that your wife had the second Biontech/Pfizer vaccine exactly 4 weeks after the first dose. I read that (quote) "The second dose of the Pfizer vaccine should be administered 21 days after the first dose. The second dose of the Moderna vaccine should be administered 28 days after the first dose."

But it sounds like maybe there is a bit of leeway in there in terms of the # of days. I'm glad to know there is a chance that I might receive the Pfizer vax tomorrow instead of Moderna, though of course, I'm quite happy to get either.
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Thanks.

That's interesting that your wife had the second Biontech/Pfizer vaccine exactly 4 weeks after the first dose. I read that (quote) "The second dose of the Pfizer vaccine should be administered 21 days after the first dose. The second dose of the Moderna vaccine should be administered 28 days after the first dose."

But it sounds like maybe there is a bit of leeway in there in terms of the # of days. I'm glad to know there is a chance that I might receive the Pfizer vax tomorrow instead of Moderna, though of course, I'm quite happy to get either.
To be clear, she only had the first shot, and that was Biontech. The date for 2nd was advised before the 1st took place, and I am sure it is also going to be Biontech. Kanton ZG.

I have had one shot of Moderna without problems (apart from a sore arm and a bit of an headache), and I don't think there is any difference to Biontech.
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Thanks.

That's interesting that your wife had the second Biontech/Pfizer vaccine exactly 4 weeks after the first dose. I read that (quote) "The second dose of the Pfizer vaccine should be administered 21 days after the first dose. The second dose of the Moderna vaccine should be administered 28 days after the first dose."

But it sounds like maybe there is a bit of leeway in there in terms of the # of days. I'm glad to know there is a chance that I might receive the Pfizer vax tomorrow instead of Moderna, though of course, I'm quite happy to get either.
My second dose of the Pfizer vaccine was exactly four weeks after the first.
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Thanks.

That's interesting that your wife had the second Biontech/Pfizer vaccine exactly 4 weeks after the first dose. I read that (quote) "The second dose of the Pfizer vaccine should be administered 21 days after the first dose. The second dose of the Moderna vaccine should be administered 28 days after the first dose."

But it sounds like maybe there is a bit of leeway in there in terms of the # of days. I'm glad to know there is a chance that I might receive the Pfizer vax tomorrow instead of Moderna, though of course, I'm quite happy to get either.
The recommendation for the Pfizer vaccine is 3-5 weeks for the second dose and for Moderna it’s 4 weeks.
In order to simplify things Switzerland has generally opted to make them all 4 weeks apart.

Our second doses of Pfizer vaccine were exactly four weeks after the first and the same for our son and his Moderna one.
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