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Mild side effects. No time off work.
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Moderate side effects. Time off work - 1 to 2 days
|    | 14 | 31.82% |
Serious side effects - more than 2 days off work
|    | 2 | 4.55% |  | | | 
18.05.2021, 15:13
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Just had a curious incident. We called our cantonal vaccine people, to check our registration was ok because we'd heard nothing ( and know of people our age who have been called).
We were told that they were aiming to have everyone vaccinated in the next month.... but that they are giving 2 doses at once as it's too difficult to get everyone back a second time Surely that can't be right? My husband made the call, and I do not discount him having mis-understood, but if he didn't I am very surprised by this. I will let you know when we finally get to go. | | | | | Possibly they're making both appointments at the same time, rather than having the first one then planning the second one?
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18.05.2021, 15:15
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | On the waiting list in BS since Feb 24th, got an appointment in the first batch of <50 y.o. this Thursday evening. I'm very happy, as now I'll definitely be able to visit my family this summer! | | | | | Don't jinx it!
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18.05.2021, 15:17
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Possibly they're making both appointments at the same time, rather than having the first one then planning the second one? | | | | | That's what happened to us, registered Friday, got SMS yesterday with 2 appointments 4 weeks apart (each).
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18.05.2021, 15:22
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Possibly they're making both appointments at the same time, rather than having the first one then planning the second one? | | | | | Having thought about it - that’s the conclusion I’ve come to too. He’s just mid-understood (despite it being his native language  ) Can’t see the Swiss suddenly not following the rules!
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18.05.2021, 15:27
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Having thought about it - that’s the conclusion I’ve come to too. He’s just mid-understood (despite it being his native language ) Can’t see the Swiss suddenly not following the rules! | | | | | I agree.
It doesn’t make sense that they would deviate from the recommendation like that. They have no idea about the effects of a double dose and it could be dangerous.
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18.05.2021, 15:31
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Just had a curious incident. We called our cantonal vaccine people, to check our registration was ok because we'd heard nothing ( and know of people our age who have been called).
We were told that they were aiming to have everyone vaccinated in the next month.... but that they are giving 2 doses at once as it's too difficult to get everyone back a second time Surely that can't be right? My husband made the call, and I do not discount him having mis-understood, but if he didn't I am very surprised by this. I will let you know when we finally get to go. | | | | | Great, don't forget to get your autumn booster and flu shot there too. Be prepared for a mild body reaction though | This user would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post: | | 
18.05.2021, 15:32
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine
Or maybe they but one in your RH calf and one in LH Deltoid and wait for them to meet in the middle.
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18.05.2021, 16:53
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine
I take back my comments about SG - now have appointment for 29th May.
No second appointment though, seems many cantons are sending out both appointments and even doing the very simple "same day and time X weeks later" approach, others like SG not.
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18.05.2021, 17:02
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Just had a curious incident. We called our cantonal vaccine people, to check our registration was ok because we'd heard nothing ( and know of people our age who have been called).
We were told that they were aiming to have everyone vaccinated in the next month.... but that they are giving 2 doses at once as it's too difficult to get everyone back a second time Surely that can't be right? My husband made the call, and I do not discount him having mis-understood, but if he didn't I am very surprised by this. I will let you know when we finally get to go. | | | | | Oh gosh, I would love that ... that way I could go to the pub already this week! hehe
Doesn't seem right - I read about an Italian woman who was accidentally given 6 doses at once, was completely fine.
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18.05.2021, 17:13
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | While out dog walking yesterday I met someone walking their dog who happened to mention that they don't want the vaccine. They don't feel they need it even though they said they knew a number of people who died from Covid, some young.
I have yet to meet anyone who has told me they don't want the vaccine, in fact, quite the opposite.
This person went on to say that they have "respect" for anyone who does want the vaccine. I cannot say I feel the same way about people who don't want the vaccine. The way I see it, vaccination is the only way forward. Unless there is a medication condition which makes vaccination impossible, why should it be optional? | | | | | It should be optional because we live in free open democratic societies where people have the choice as to what they put into their bodies.
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18.05.2021, 17:16
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | It should be optional because we live in free open democratic societies where people have the choice as to what they put into their bodies. | | | | | And it is.
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18.05.2021, 17:28
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | And it is. | | | | | Thankfully! This has actually been the most surprising/shocking aspect of this whole pandemic. Not the dodgy science, not the state sanctioned media scaremongering, not the reversal of democratic norms, not the governmental overreach. It's actually the revelation that there are a significant number of people out there perfectly willing to turn on their fellow tax paying citizens for some perceived greater good or because of instructions they've been given by people in authority.
We've known this is possible/normal from the Milgram experiments, or to go full Godwin, from the Holocaust. Seeing it played out on a day to day basis, with a significant number of people calling for people to be forced to be vaccinated, is nothing short of horrifying. | The following 3 users would like to thank TonyClifton for this useful post: | | The following 6 users groan at TonyClifton for this post: | | 
18.05.2021, 18:33
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Thankfully! This has actually been the most surprising/shocking aspect of this whole pandemic. Not the dodgy science, not the state sanctioned media scaremongering, not the reversal of democratic norms, not the governmental overreach. It's actually the revelation that there are a significant number of people out there perfectly willing to turn on their fellow tax paying citizens for some perceived greater good or because of instructions they've been given by people in authority.
We've known this is possible/normal from the Milgram experiments, or to go full Godwin, from the Holocaust. Seeing it played out on a day to day basis, with a significant number of people calling for people to be forced to be vaccinated, is nothing short of horrifying.  | | | | |
Would not be the first time, it is not so uncommon as you think.
It was only in 1972 that the U.S. government decided to stop mandatory vaccination against smallpox; which disease is now eradicated.
Every state in the United States requires children to be vaccinated before attending school, also the Canadian provinces Ontario, New Brunswick, and Manitoba. Mandatory vaccination policies also exist in Latvia, Slovenia, Italy, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, France, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, and Belgium.
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18.05.2021, 20:18
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Thankfully! This has actually been the most surprising/shocking aspect of this whole pandemic. Not the dodgy science, not the state sanctioned media scaremongering, not the reversal of democratic norms, not the governmental overreach. It's actually the revelation that there are a significant number of people out there perfectly willing to turn on their fellow tax paying citizens for some perceived greater good or because of instructions they've been given by people in authority.
We've known this is possible/normal from the Milgram experiments, or to go full Godwin, from the Holocaust. Seeing it played out on a day to day basis, with a significant number of people calling for people to be forced to be vaccinated, is nothing short of horrifying.  | | | | | The Holocaust ... give me a f---ing break
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18.05.2021, 20:48
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | It should be optional because we live in free open democratic societies where people have the choice as to what they put into their bodies. | | | | | And people, in exercising that choice, are also deciding whether they want to help society as a whole, especially those less fortunate than themselves, or as you are advocating, have the choice in choosing the selfish option.
To quote from the Bible:
PHILIPPIANS 2:4 Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others. | The following 3 users would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post: | | 
18.05.2021, 21:42
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine
US vaccine take up by groups | The following 2 users would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post: | | This user groans at komsomolez for this post: | | 
18.05.2021, 21:49
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Great, don't forget to get your autumn booster and flu shot there too. Be prepared for a mild body reaction though  | | | | | Never have had a flu shot, and never will.
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18.05.2021, 22:15
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | The Holocaust ... give me a f---ing break | | | | | Shall I put it in bold or capitals next time so you have an excuse to focus on THE HOLOCUAST rather than its relation to the more general point that was being made?
Mercifully the Swiss ethics commission have unequivocally advised that there should be no compulsory vaccinations. So we can leave those advocating this dangerously offensive guff to message boards, forums and social media https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/ethics-...tions/46366312 | This user would like to thank TonyClifton for this useful post: | | The following 3 users groan at TonyClifton for this post: | | 
18.05.2021, 22:21
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Shall I put it in bold or capitals next time so you have an excuse to focus on it rather than its relation to a more general point?
Mercifully the Swiss ethics commission have unequivocally advised that there should be no compulsory vaccinations. So we can leave those advocating this dangerously offensive guff to message boards, forums and social media.  https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/ethics-...tions/46366312 | | | | | Up to you really
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18.05.2021, 23:21
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| | Re: When can we take covid vaccine | Quote: | |  | | | Unless there is a medication condition which makes vaccination impossible, why should it be optional? | | | | | Because the bar is rightly set higher for prophylaxis in the healthy than for treatments of sick people who stand to gain directly from the therapy. Serious side effects, though rare, do exist. See the thrombosis with AZ and J&J, and narcolepsy with Pandemrix. I‘ve personally seen a weird inflammatory reaction, far removed from the injection site of the common or garden flu shot, in a nurse. It all went away. So she was brave enough to try again a few years later. It happened again. I no longer freely give RNs the doubtful benefit of my considered but very pro-vax medical opinion about flu vaccination rates in hospital staff (best guess MDs 2/3, nursing staff 1/3).
The other issue is that in a society like ours, making shots compulsory would generate resistance. There have been several studies taht showed lower compliance rates with compulsory vaccinations. (Someone mentioned they are a prerequisite for school attendance in some US states - don‘t anti-vaxxers just go in for homeschooling? I‘d be more concerned about the homeschooled offspring of anti-vaxxers than about a few unvaccinated kids in public schools, where they get a chance to learn their parents‘ stance is open to questioning, and a more varied peer group.
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