You’ll get it about 60 seconds after you have the 1st jab.

If you do not like people commenting on certain words in your post then do not use them, or at least try to spell them correctly.

The Swiss are quite proud of having a choice in the matter. Unfortunately, there are too many who still would rather avoid the jab and join the demonstrations. I wonder if there will be any countries in the future which require vaccinations in order to gain entrance?

Holy moly you seem to be one deeply neurotic guy, you even managed to shoehorn a Holocaust reference into that unhinged conspiracy-rant and that tells us all we need to know. Good luck managing those anxiety levels.

I don't think it will be a precondition (as some cannot be vaccinated), but it will end up with a "to avoid quarantine, you shall be vaccinated" I reckon.


Italy has made it compulsory for healthcare workers to be vaccinated. I was pleasantly surprised.


I'm all for choice, but sometimes there's the common good that overrides freedom of choice.


e.g. we cannot choose to not pay taxes, as we all benefit from the government, street lighting, etc

What is too many? And how do you know it's "too many"? Data from countries like the UK that are more advanced in the vaccine rollout shows that there are very few people avoiding the jab. For Switzerland it will only become apparent in the future as to whether there is a problem with uptake or not.

So sinister how the yardstick has been moved from "protecting our hospitals and health providers" to "vaccinate the most vulnerable so we can lift lockdown" to now "people must be vaccinated by force"





https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833

The yardstick hsa never moved... to protect our hospitals, we cannot flood them with ICU patients with a preventable disease.

COVID IS a preventable disease now that we have a vaccine.

They're not going to be flooded due to Covid now, they're not even flooded at the moment before the vaccine rollout has even been completed.

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/hosp-capacity/icu

I hardly view street lighting as a benefit, rather than as an annoyance!

Tom

In effect there already are ...or at least you need to be vaccinated or have had Covid in the last 6 months or show a negative PCR test. The alternative is 10 days quarantine. Applies at least to Germany and Austria

There is a precedent of countries that demand yellow fever vaccination as a pre-condition despite that some cannot be vaccinated, the alternative of quarantine is a costly business with risks attached. Better to avoid the risks and block entry, anyway it is only short term as eventually the unvaccinated will catch the virus and qualify for entry after recovery.

At the cost of quite stringent measures still in place - which you also don't support if I remember correctly.

Seriously, how was there ever a solution to the pandemic and return to normal without immunization of the vast majority of the population? Either by infection or vaccination. If anyone is changing goalposts, it is you.

Voluntary vaccination isn't the same as mandatary vaccination though is it? That's a goal post move right there. At the moment there is little to no evidence that the voluntary uptake in vaccination is not going to be sufficient.

Ultimately in the real world, just about the only people who are going to be potentially harmed from Covid by not having a vaccine are those who have not had the vaccine. The idea that there are huge swathes of vulnerable people "who can't have the vaccine and need protecting" is just fanciful.

Your recent posts now seem to be putting forward arguments supporting mandatory vaccination, is that your intention?

And all the people who are prevented from having other treatment in hospitals because the beds are taken by unvaccinated COVID victims.

And the people who can't take the vaccine and are infected by the people who chose not to.

And the older people where the vaccine isn't so efficient who are infected by the people who chose not to.

There are diseases that have been eradicated or almost completely eradicated by mandatory vaccines ... is that evidence enough?

You are really chapping my hide today TC.

Another poster mentioned how they haven't encountered anyone who doesn't want it, I am sad to say I have encountered many - especially back home in the US. I was on the phone with my father and he said they are begging people to take the vaccine now. Basically anyone who wanted it, has gotten it & there are huge amounts of people left that aren't getting it.

Such as?

Tom

Polio and rabies (dogs don't complain that much)

Now do smokers, drug/alcohol abusers and the obese.

Do you not see the difference though between diseases like Polio and Smallpox and Covid? Unlike these diseases, Covid doesn't really affect the young.

Slightly different as none of the above are infectious and so isolation measures are not needed.