The vaccine does not give you Covid!

Oh dear, will covid-19 become a divorce-reason as well?

In SZ, 33% had received one dose by 1 June. Now apparently they have 15000 open slots until end of July which they seem to have difficulty getting booked.

Interpret as you wish.

I received this email this morning. I was a patient at this clinic. So if anyone is looking to get the vaccine, you can go there. The link takes you to their website. They are in Zurich near the main train station.


From: Immunologie Zentrum Zürich <empfang@immunologie-zentrum.ch>
Sent: 07 June 2021 09:42
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: Covid-Impfung

Guten Tag

Wir erlauben uns, Ihnen dieses Mail zu schreiben, weil wir noch freie Covid-19 Impftermine haben.
Bei Bedarf können gerne Sie sich und/oder Ihre Familienmitglieder oder Freunde zur Impfung bei uns anmelden.
Die Anmeldung erfolgt ausschliesslich online unter: https://www.immunologie-zentrum.ch/a...id-19-impfung/

Für die Impfung muss man im Moment noch älter als 16 Jahre sein und in der Schweiz krankenversichert. Wenn diese Anforderungen erfüllt sind, können Sie sich gerne für die Impfung anmelden.

Falls Sie sich schon impfen lassen konnten oder beinen Betraf sehen, dürfen Sie dieses Mail selbstverständlich ignorieren und löschen.

Herzlichen Dank und freundliche Grüsse

Das Team vom Immunologie-Zentrum Zürich

__________________

The SVP Volk in SZ prefer to get immunity the old fashioned way - by letting a bat virus take over their internal organs.

LOL. In the progressive lands of Aargau, a whopping 1.3% more have received at least one shot. 37.5% vs 36.2% as of 6 June.

We are of course a civilised and sophisticated centre between Zurich and Basel. Mind you Schwyz is also similarly centrally located between Glarus and Uri .

In all seriousness: have you recovered from the 2nd vaccine yet?

Yes, perfectly fine now. Got the shot Friday evening, Saturday was all day in bed and feeling like total shit. Sleep, flu meds, sleep. Sunday was okish, still a bit weak. By Sunday evening all good again.

Apart from a little pain at the injection site, none.

We had our second doses on Monday morning, thankfully it wasn't particularly busy at the vaccination centre. Most attendees seemed to be getting the second one.
OH took the morning off so we could go for lunch, by the time we got back about 3pm I had a strange headache and had to have a nap. Tuesday I had a bit of an upset tum.
He had a very sore red arm and a stonker of a headache yesterday.

I registered in April and still waiting. Some of my colleagues who registered in March have already taken their first and in one case he got his second shot, and he is 50.

On the morning of receiving the vaccine (the 1st dose yesterday), there’s no feeling of sting or anything. However, by the afternoon and next day my whole shoulder was in pain. My wife complained about headache and soar throat. I felt a bit fatigued but as soon as played tennis today and started using my left arm when throwing the ball during serve, the pain subsided. I guess it was just that not used muscle gotten a tad stiff without proper blood flow triggered by exercise. Let’s see how the mood develops tomorrow.

FYI Schwyzers:

On this coming Saturday, 12 June, the mobile 'Impfbus' will be at Mythen Center Schwyz (in Ibach) from 09:00 to 16:00.

You do not need an appointment, you can just show up spontaneously and get vaccinated. The Impfbus will use the Moderna vaccine, everyone 18+ is eligible.

https://www.sz.ch/privatpersonen/ges...-444-1712-1707


Driving directions:
https://www.mythen-center.ch/kontakt...-mit-dem-auto/

Directions with public transportation:
https://www.mythen-center.ch/kontakt...e-mit-dem-oev/

OH had mild symptoms only the next day after vaccination. Just fatigued, nothing serious.

I had my second dose of Moderna on Wednesday, around 2:15 pm. My arm hurt a bit afterward, but not too bad. It's still only very slightly sore today.

I felt fine that day, otherwise, after getting the shot. But then on Thursday morning (yesterday), I woke up with a raging headache that lasted the entire day. It was so bad that I could barely move my head and I felt absolutely exhausted. However, I think that headache may have been primary due to my Bruxism and then the pain from it may have been amplified by the vaccine (not sure). I was taking one 500 mg. Dafalgan tablet to try to treat the headache, but that didn't work, so then I finally took 1 mg. of Dafalgan before bed last night, which did the trick and allowed me to get almost 9 hours of sleep last night (which was much needed!). Today, I am feeling sooo much better.

I also had a slight fever yesterday that only lasted about an hour or two.

Anyways, something I wanted to mention here is that the nurse (?) that was giving me the vaccine told me that it's best to NOT take Ibuprofen to treat any side-effects and that Dafalgan should be taken instead. Yesterday, I knew that Ibuprofen would 'fix' my headache better than Dafalgan, so I looked up to see why (or if indeed) people should not take Ibuprofen after getting the shot. It said that Ibuprofen could possibly hinder the effects of the vaccine by reducing inflammation that your body is otherwise being trained to learn how to fight (from the vaccine). So I just thought I'd share that.

Despite having the second vaccine and a couple of beers yesterday no headache today. Maybe they cancelled each other out

Don't you just think that perhaps, if the effects were actually hindered by ibuprofen, this would have been mentioned in the paperwork given to patients after the vaccine had been administered?

I just thought I'd share that.

I've read similar to what Pancakes posted in various online articles. I agree with you, if this really was something the manufacturers or doctors didn't want people to do, or if it was actually dangerous, such contraindication should be in official paperwork given to the patient.

I'm not a doctor, but I don't see why taking a standard dose of ibuprofen would be a problem, unless there's something specific with mRNA vaccines that is different. The point of any vaccine is to stimulate an immune response, which of course means some inflammation. Reducing inflammation doesn't counteract the vaccine itself. It just means less inflammation and therefore less miserable side effects. I'm for that.

I've read online that the vaccine turns you into a zombie or you get injected with a microchip....

It's fairly normal in the medical profession to prefer to recommend paracetamol (aka acetaminophen in the US) over ibuprofen for low to mid pain, especially headaches, and generally, for most people most of the time, it is at least as effective. For headache alone, but definitely for fever, I'd tend to prefer it myself, although for some of my pain issues ibuprofen does work better.

I think part of it is the, admittedly very low, risk of stomach issues with NSAIDs, such that when they are prescribed, e.g. post-op, they're often done so alongside a PPI (proton pump inhibitor) to reduce the acidity. I've often felt they're overly concerned about this, but it seems to have been preached throughout the world as standard medical approach, so their rather cautious advice is understandable.

I don't think that makes any sense at all. The vaccine isn't training the body to react to, or to fight, inflammation, simply to produce the required antibodies to stop the virus taking hold and multiplying if you're exposed to it.