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The more I write here, the more foolish I feel, but my Gynecologist thought my husband was a bit young at 38 for a vasectomy.
Frankly speaking, I share this opinion. Even the strongest marriage can break one day, and men still have many fertile years ahead of them when they are 38. I think a woman can make more conscious decision that she doesn't want to have a baby anymore than a man can do. I didn't want my husband to have a snip and decided to have tube ligation myself at 38 and I'm very happy about this decision, though it cost lots of money. I wish I did it during the second C-section, but I didn't make a decision yet at that moment, so I had to have a separate OP later.
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The more I write here, the more foolish I feel, but my Gynecologist thought my husband was a bit young at 38 for a vasectomy. He told us that he himself had a new partner and regretted his. We thought he was giving genuine life advice but now I think it was rather self serving. Obviously I wish we hadn't bothered to listen now.

hi klostersgirl, hope you get this all sorted out. i needed to catch up on the whole thread. i think you're quite brave to put this all out there, thank you for doing it and starting the conversation as it may help some members reading this, i've never needed to use an IUD but i have had bad experiences with male (and a few female) doctors who gave me terrible medical advice. the first time i followed through as the doctor was very reputable (and expensive) even though I felt in my gut it was not the best advice. but now i have learnt to listed to my intuition every time. best of luck sorting this all out and keep us updated from your appointment next week xo
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Nope, you are absolutely spot on. Medicine is still hopelessly patriarchal in many quarters and women absolutely have to advocate for themselves. And sometimes even when the physician is also a woman.

Agreed, and yet

contraception is hopelessly patriarchal

see notallthere's post- BRAVO. Why should women who have given birth, perhaps had C-sections and been through a lot- also carry the responsibility of contraception in a relationship forever? I am so proud my man said 'you've done your bit- and were very brave- my turn now to do my bit'.

Klostersgirl, hope the issue will be resolved soon. Sounds horrendous x

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Speaking of patriarchal medicine, I still remember complaining of bad period pains to my then doctor as a teenager. Who informed me that in Africa period pains simply don’t exist as women have other things to think about over there. I’m speechless to this day.
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I had a Mirena IUD (the 5 year type with hormones) fitted in 2003. When my Gynecologist attempted to remove the device 5 years later he was unable to do so as it had become embedded. He had a few attempts (very unpleasant) and called in his Partner who also had a go and then broke his speculum whilst it was inserted inside me. The IUD remained where it was and my Gynecologist told me it would be fine, although no longer an effective method of birth control.

Recenty I have had some stomach issues and had a CT scan which shows that the IUD has broken through the uterine wall. The device will now need to be removed surgically. A cursory Google search has shown that there are known problems with the Mirena IUD in that it can migrate and cause organ perforation. https://www.drugdangers.com/mirena/organ-perforation/
There are many lawsuits in the States and Canada against Bayer Healthcare (the manufacturer).

I wondered if anyone else here has been affected by the migration of a Mirena IUD. I am not suggesting that my Gynecologist was negligent in fitting the device as the issues were not known at that time, however, could I have expected some sort of follow up from my Gynecologist once these complications became known?

I know that CH is not like the States in terms of litigation, but is there anything one can do in this sort of circumstance i.e. not malpractice but a defective product which has now caused me a serious complication. My main motivation would be general awareness and reporting of the issue.
Hi Klostergirl. This is a VERY serious issue. No, leaving an IUD inside the uterus of a woman is NOT OK. That IS negligence. It is just a time-bomb for potentially, long-range health issues.

This should have been the standard procedure, which you can still initiate urgently.

1. The gynecologist should have reported an 'adverse effect' to the company. That is best practices.
2. With that, the company (through the gyn, or other specialist) would have followed up on you, to provide a solution with the device (sometimes, the device can be still be extracted without performing surgery)
3. Leaving an IUD in the uterus of a woman, apart from malpractice is ... well, to say the least, unprofessional, and I could say many more things from a legal perspective.
4. Please call Bayer in Switzerland and ask for the pharmacovigilance department, and tell them you have a serious issue. They will ask all of the details. They have to report them also to the authorities, as investigations will take place to define if the problem was of the manipulation (the doctor) or the product (the manufacturer), and sometimes (and with IUDs it has happened various times in the last 5 years), there are recalls of the products (i.e. they have to be removed from the patients). You can also send an email (see below).

Don't give up on this. Yes, there can be very serious consequences on uterus perforation for your health.


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Agreed, and yet

contraception is hopelessly patriarchal

see notallthere's post- BRAVO. Why should women who have given birth, perhaps had C-sections and been through a lot- also carry the responsability of contraception in a relationship forever? I am so proud my man said 'you've done your bit- and were very brave- my turn now to do my bit'.

Klostersgirl, hope the issue will be resolved soon. Sounds horrendous x
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Speaking of patriarchal medicine, I still remember complaining of bad period pains to my then doctor as a teenager. Who informed me that in Africa period pains simply don’t exist as women have other things to think about over there. I’m speechless to this day.
My then doc (I was 12) told me and my mum that it was ok because "childbirth will solve that." I remember my mum asking me to wait out in the corridor while she had a word with the doc. I never saw him again and we changed practices quite soon after! To day he was a dinosaur was an understatement.

He was proved right, but 24 years later. I've thought male doctors fairly twattish ever since. Probably unfairly, but there you go.
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The more I write here, the more foolish I feel, but my Gynecologist thought my husband was a bit young at 38 for a vasectomy.
I was 30. We'd had three children (we married in our early 20s) and didn't want any more. I figured the chances of a breakup and me being unable to father more children compared to the risks to my wife of further pregnancies, contraception and/or hysterectomy meant it was a no brainer.

Still together and happier than ever, 30 years later. With grandchildren. Now, where's that smug smiley...

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Same here, 45 years later.

He was also told he was too young aged 30- but he stood his ground. I think it really cemented our relationship, that he was prepared to take this big step to protect me.

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Speaking of patriarchal attitudes and medicine, after we moved to Singapore, I was having issues with my IUD (not Mirena but Paraguard I believe). At any rate, I told my OH, after 20 years on various contraceptions, that it was his turn to "buck up" for lack of better terms

Fast forward, and we arrange an appointment at a well regarded urologist to discuss surgery/steps. At the last minute, I couldn't attend the consultation as my son had a injury on the soccer/football pitch and so my OH went alone.

This doctor managed to put the fear of God into my OH regarding the "necessity/need" for this operation and presented him with a list of negative outcomes. Ughh! My OH never got the "snip" as he was freaked out.

I managed to have my IUD safely removed with no consequence. But, I always thought, had we been living in the US and the same situation arose, the US doctor would have behaved differently and my OH would have gone through with the operation. Who knows but it is just my sense...

That said, my heart goes out to you Klostersgirl and I wish you much success in finding a capable surgeon as well as a speedy recover. What a nightmare you have endured! My best to you...
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The only problem is how? Two gynecologists made their attempts with no anaesthetic or pain killer. It wasn't great. I obviously can't pull it out myself, so here I am ...
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No reason to feel foolish about following medical advice. Personally, I just know with my anxiety I wouldn't have been able to leave it there, it would have constantly stressed me out. I would have had to have had anaesthetic and they would have to have removed it somehow (surgically if necessary)..... but that's just me being a stress head.
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The more I write here, the more foolish I feel
You should not! You did what you thought was the right thing to do at the time.


Hopefully you will get it sorted finally. Always get multiple opinion when it comes to medical advice. You have only one body, Docs on the other hand have multiple patients to play with.
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Hi Klostergirl. This is a VERY serious issue. No, leaving an IUD inside the uterus of a woman is NOT OK. That IS negligence. It is just a time-bomb for potentially, long-range health issues.

This should have been the standard procedure, which you can still initiate urgently.

1. The gynecologist should have reported an 'adverse effect' to the company. That is best practices.
2. With that, the company (through the gyn, or other specialist) would have followed up on you, to provide a solution with the device (sometimes, the device can be still be extracted without performing surgery)
3. Leaving an IUD in the uterus of a woman, apart from malpractice is ... well, to say the least, unprofessional, and I could say many more things from a legal perspective.
4. Please call Bayer in Switzerland and ask for the pharmacovigilance department, and tell them you have a serious issue. They will ask all of the details. They have to report them also to the authorities, as investigations will take place to define if the problem was of the manipulation (the doctor) or the product (the manufacturer), and sometimes (and with IUDs it has happened various times in the last 5 years), there are recalls of the products (i.e. they have to be removed from the patients). You can also send an email (see below).

Don't give up on this. Yes, there can be very serious consequences on uterus perforation for your health.


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Thank you so much. I shall register my issue. This is precisely why I posted here, but I am also very grateful to receive advice and empathy from so many and to possibly alert others to the dangers. Thank you again.
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This absolutely.



My then doc (I was 12) told me and my mum that it was ok because "childbirth will solve that." I remember my mum asking me to wait out in the corridor while she had a word with the doc. I never saw him again and we changed practices quite soon after! To day he was a dinosaur was an understatement.

He was proved right, but 24 years later. I've thought male doctors fairly twattish ever since. Probably unfairly, but there you go.
My American general medical doctor and THREE Swiss gynecologists (two women) have told me this. Various versions of, “oh yeah that’s normal, you probably have endometriosis like your mother, or you don’t, who knows, but having pain like that is normal and it will only get better after having babies.”

So sorry you’re going through this. What a horrible experience. Doesn’t help when doctors make us doubt ourselves and encourage us into the wrong choices :/ Hope you can get this solved!
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Klostersgirl, I think you're very brave to post it all here, since there's always a risk that someone will be unsympathetic. Thank you for posting to warn others.

I'm glad you've received some very supporting answers, here. I wish you strength and courage - no, wait, I don't seem to need to wish you the latter since you already seem to have it in admirable bucketfuls! - as you make enquiries of what to do next.

My advice would be that once you've found a doctor whom you feels takes you seriously and suggests a course of action, you then go out and get at least a second opinion from a doctor who has nothing at all to do with that first. It's fine to be completely open and say that you're going for a second opinion, (but not mention to whom) which is why you want to be given all your scans, images, test results, etc., on the spot, to take along to the other doctor. Tell him/her, too, that you're here for a second opinion, and then do not tell them who the first doctor is, nor what the first doctor said. In that way, you can really get two separate, fresh, unbiased opinions. After that, if you wanted to, you could ask the doctors to phone each other, to discuss any differences in their views.
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Same here, 45 years later.

He was also told he was too young aged 30- but he stood his ground. I think it really cemented our relationship, that he was prepared to take this big step to protect me.
I want to get it done after baby number 2, but my wife is dead against.
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The more I write here, the more foolish I feel, but my Gynecologist thought my husband was a bit young at 38 for a vasectomy. He told us that he himself had a new partner and regretted his. We thought he was giving genuine life advice but now I think it was rather self serving. Obviously I wish we hadn't bothered to listen now.
Please don't feel foolish. First of all, finding a decent gynaecologist is hard, finding a good one who still takes new patients is almost impossible. Some actually only take you if you are referred by one of their existing patients!

And let's take a moment to appreciate the insanity here: you clearly had no plans for (further?) progeny with your husband that you were not planning on divorcing, yet the doctor refused to do what is a minor procedure because he was "too young"? Too young for what exactly? To be sure that he didn't plan on running off and starting a new family with someone else?

The number of times I've heard of this type of story is upsetting. As is the number of men who expect women to do all the heavy lifting when it comes to preventing pregnancies. I've had a man tell me he would never have a relationship with a woman who wasn't on the pill. He absolutely didn't want an IUD involved because he was scared it may injure his schnozzle if he was "too enthusiastic". And condoms were completely out, as the whole point of being in a relationship was not to have to use them. Wow. Well, since taking hormones for birth control makes me suicidally depressed, I had to pass on having this first class male specimen in my life. What a shame...
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I've had a man tell me he would never have a relationship with a woman who wasn't on the pill. He absolutely didn't want an IUD involved because he was scared it may injure his schnozzle if he was "too enthusiastic". And condoms were completely out, as the whole point of being in a relationship was not to have to use them. Wow. Well, since taking hormones for birth control makes me suicidally depressed, I had to pass on having this first class male specimen in my life. What a shame...
A shame indeed. What an utter twatbadger he was. Outrageous thinking. And he clearly needed some basic biology refresh info.
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I want to get it done after baby number 2, but my wife is dead against.

We digress, this is not the subject of this thread- but do you know why? You should discuss this.

A separate thread would deal with this much better.

Women gyneacologists are not always more sympathetic either. Bonne chance Klostergirl.
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A shame indeed. What an utter twatbadger he was. Outrageous thinking. And he clearly needed some basic biology refresh info.
As always, RufusB, you make me chuckle with your phrasing . I am going add "twatbadger" to my vocabulary. My family in the US will have no clue to what I am referencing but that term is perfect!
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I've had a man tell me he would never have a relationship with a woman who wasn't on the pill. He absolutely didn't want an IUD involved because he was scared it may injure his schnozzle if he was "too enthusiastic". And condoms were completely out, as the whole point of being in a relationship was not to have to use them. Wow. Well, since taking hormones for birth control makes me suicidally depressed, I had to pass on having this first class male specimen in my life. What a shame...
Let me add a " " on the irony of your last sentence...
" First class male " meant that you met him while flying first class, I guess
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