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Re: Father to be with Swiss Wife - Surname issue

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....although it would still be hard to see Dolma...
but it would be fun in Turkish restaurants, and in Greek ones you would have to ad -aki at the end for the same effect.
Yell to much on your Dolma, and you would have food to feed entire village.
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Hi all,

We are expecting our first child!

However - one of us is Spaniard and the other one Swiss which means that Switzerland has legal rights on naming the kid.

It's very important for us to have both surnames ans it's a common tradition in Spain.

Has anyone here dealt with this situation and managed to work around that and allowing the kid to have 2 surnames?
I guess the child has to have yours or your wife's surname. Things like that are decided when you marry e.g. family's name. If you wanted your kids to have a combined or hyphenated name, the easier route and perfectly logical imo is for spouses to adopt a combined name after marriage.


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So your marriage certificate just says John and Jane on it?
No. It means they didn't change their family names.

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When in Rome do as the Romans do ...

That's the thing, it's a bit more complicated in their case.

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Old 28.04.2021, 18:23
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I guess the child has to have yours or your wife's surname. Things like that are decided when you marry e.g. family's name.
In Switzerland, yes, other countries, no.

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If you wanted your kids to have a combined or hyphenated name, the easier route and perfectly logical imo is for spouses to adopt a combined name after marriage.
Not possible anymore in CH.

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Not possible anymore in CH.

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Pity. Since when?
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Re: Father to be with Swiss Wife - Surname issue

Same issue here- Swiss and Spanish we are not married but are expecting our second child.
Our problem is even worse.
First daughter was born in Belgium and she has composed last name
His first one plus my first one.
And now for the new son we have two choose either both of his or both of mine last names. So anyway the siblings would have different last names!!!!
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Pity. Since when?
It was possible in 2011, it changed a few years later.

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Same issue here- Swiss and Spanish we are not married but are expecting our second child.
Our problem is even worse.
First daughter was born in Belgium and she has composed last name
His first one plus my first one.
And now for the new son we have two choose either both of his or both of mine last names. So anyway the siblings would have different last names!!!!
It may be so that, if your first child has a certain family name and your first and second child share the same two biological parents, that the second child might be given permission to have the same family name as the elder sibling. That's worth checking.
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Old 28.04.2021, 21:47
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Re: Father to be with Swiss Wife - Surname issue

Sorry I don't have anything to answer to the OP question, but reading this thread I was wondering, are the restrictions there because the mum is Swiss (and the child will be Swiss too)? I had a look to https://www.ch.ch/en/surname-child/ and to me it's not clear if these rules apply to the Swiss citizens, to the residents in Switzerland, or to anybody who gives birth in Switzerland
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Sorry I don't have anything to answer to the OP question, but reading this thread I was wondering, are the restrictions there because the mum is Swiss (and the child will be Swiss too)?
Yes.

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Yell to much on your Dolma, and you would have food to feed entire village.
Yes, same as the grape leaf thing. Also Drolma or Dölma, an inexact transliteration of the Tibetan name for a tantric Buddhist goddess, "mother of liberation", Tara in Sanskrit, hence among the few name options boys don't usually get.
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Re: Father to be with Swiss Wife - Surname issue

Might be a change coming - but possibly only for Swiss citizens?

"Two options for the return of the double surname
Swiss citizens who marry should once again be able to opt for a double surname. The National Council's Legal Affairs Committee, by 15 votes to 1 with 9 abstentions, wants to include this possibility in the current law in the form of two options.

One is a return to the situation before the 2013 revision of the civil code. It would allow the wife or husband to precede the family name with his or her unmarried name, the parliamentary services said Friday.

The other provides that in the future, both spouses will be able to keep their single name and add the single name of their spouse. In future, Weber and Muster will therefore also be able to call themselves Weber Muster and Muster Weber when they marry.

The commission has commissioned the administration to prepare a preliminary draft for one of its next meetings. This work follows a parliamentary initiative by Luzi Stamm (SVP/AG), which had already been approved by the committees of both chambers.

In 90% of cases, the wife takes the husband's name...
The possibility of using a double name was abolished in the 2013 revision of the Civil Code. Newlyweds can either keep their single name or choose one of the two as their common surname. Children bear the common surname or the surname defined by the spouses.

The disappearance of the double name has been criticised on several occasions, both on the right and the left. In 90% of cases, the wife takes the husband's name. For Luzi Stamm, the new regulation does not achieve the desired goal of equality."

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https://www.bluewin.ch/fr/infos/suis...le-691612.html
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