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Old 28.04.2021, 23:05
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Nursery in German (3rd language) before 1 year of age?

Hi,

I've tried to browse through the multilingual toddlers thread, but there is a bit too much of information to elaborate...
I am currently pregnant and I've been suggested to start booking the krippe now already. The problem is that we don't have a clear ideas on daycare yet.

We live in the German-speaking Switzerland, and me and my husband have different native languages. We speak with each other mainly in my mother language, and we are not fluent enough in German to speak it naturally at home.

For sure the baby will hear my language at home in the first months, and I am not sure whether it would be a good idea to expose the baby to multiple languages before they even learn to say a word.

Would staying to a german-speaking krippe too confusing? Should I wait until the baby 2-3 years old, would it better to find a tagesmutter in my language instead until then? Or do you have plenty of good experiences with kids learning to say the first words in multiple languages at the same time?
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Old 28.04.2021, 23:28
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Re: Nursery in German (3rd language) before 1 year of age?

If you do not *need* them to go to daycare, then don't.


If you 'need' childcare then the first option is a nanny (if you can afford it) - they can be someone who speaks your language, or you can introduce another language. The essentials are a) they speak a deep and rich language with the baby, consistently in one language and b) they develop a warm and friendly attachment with the baby.



Group childcare is there for those who need it, as a cheaper option than a nanny...



Yes, they will appear to learn 'easier' if everyone around them speaks a single language - because everyone should also be able to undertand them more easily. Plus, for parents, it's far easier because you are not fighting a language and culture barrier every time you need to discuss something about your child.


'Bilingual' is for me a soft-option - I used it for all my children because it made things easier for me and for them - but if I could have found a very high quality German only Montessori preschool/kindergarten, with a beautiful professional teacher, I would have chosen on - in our case, bilingual was the best option... but it was not necessary by the time our third child came along, because we were reasonably integrated and could handle the Swiss/German language and culture enough to be confident with the staff and advocate for our child.
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Re: Nursery in German (3rd language) before 1 year of age?

There is plenty of research on this topic! More languages are a gift, your child will not be confused. My three year old is on the cusp of being trilingual because he gets equal input in three languages. A "mommy", "daddy" and "kita" language. He's been in the kita since 9 months old and his language skills are thriving in all three languages.

Go for it. More languages open more doors!
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Re: Nursery in German (3rd language) before 1 year of age?

The sooner the better - all the evidence shows that learning languages early is much more effective. There used to be concern about children not learning enough depth with multiple languages, but that has been discredited with longer term studies showing that depth is gained a little later but also more effectively as well.

There's also the social aspect - it's good for kids to mix with a lot of people, which can be hard if you don't have family here. Plus you get to meet parents of kids who may then be with your child throughout their school years as well - don't underestimate how much you being part of that group can mean to your child.
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Re: Nursery in German (3rd language) before 1 year of age?

Anecdotal, it's true, but...friends of ours had a child. Father (native to Ticino) speaks Italian, French, English. Mother (native to Taiwan) speaks Mandarin, French, English, Italian. They spoke to the boy in all those languages from the start. They were living in Dubai when the boy was born, so his first experience with creche was English and Arabic. Wow. He's 6 now and can speak them all (but he has lost his Arabic now that he's back in CH). What a gift!
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If you do not *need* them to go to daycare, then don't.


If you 'need' childcare then the first option is a nanny (if you can afford it) - they can be someone who speaks your language, or you can introduce another language. The essentials are a) they speak a deep and rich language with the baby, consistently in one language and b) they develop a warm and friendly attachment with the baby.



Group childcare is there for those who need it, as a cheaper option than a nanny...



Yes, they will appear to learn 'easier' if everyone around them speaks a single language - because everyone should also be able to undertand them more easily. Plus, for parents, it's far easier because you are not fighting a language and culture barrier every time you need to discuss something about your child.


'Bilingual' is for me a soft-option - I used it for all my children because it made things easier for me and for them - but if I could have found a very high quality German only Montessori preschool/kindergarten, with a beautiful professional teacher, I would have chosen on - in our case, bilingual was the best option... but it was not necessary by the time our third child came along, because we were reasonably integrated and could handle the Swiss/German language and culture enough to be confident with the staff and advocate for our child.

BTW, I totally disagree with this. Group childcare is a great way to give your kid a head start in school, ESPECIALLY if they will going to school in a language you don't speak at home. They also learn how interact appropriately with different peers and adults and they get their immune systems prepared for a world full of germs. It's win/win across the board compared to having a nanny
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Re: Nursery in German (3rd language) before 1 year of age?

OP, maybe you've heard of stories children being exposed to multiple languages to speak later. There's some anecdotal experience that they do start off later but research indicated it is good for IQ development.

My personal take is that if parents speak in different language it is a bit confusing and less time devoted to a particular language. But brain does like exercise and I think it is good.

My nephew was exposed to two languages. Actually he was speaking them both better than peers. His parents were reading him lots (and lots...) of books and his skills were always way ahead of his peers (at 3 he was speaking like an average 5+ y.o.). Actually, already with 3-4 he was using more complex words and sentences than most adults do on a daily basis.

edit: I also know of a couple in a similar situation to OP's whose children were speaking well 4 languages when 5-10 y.o.

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Hi,

I've tried to browse through the multilingual toddlers thread, but there is a bit too much of information to elaborate...
I am currently pregnant and I've been suggested to start booking the krippe now already. The problem is that we don't have a clear ideas on daycare yet.

We live in the German-speaking Switzerland, and me and my husband have different native languages. We speak with each other mainly in my mother language, and we are not fluent enough in German to speak it naturally at home.

For sure the baby will hear my language at home in the first months, and I am not sure whether it would be a good idea to expose the baby to multiple languages before they even learn to say a word.

Would staying to a german-speaking krippe too confusing? Should I wait until the baby 2-3 years old, would it better to find a tagesmutter in my language instead until then? Or do you have plenty of good experiences with kids learning to say the first words in multiple languages at the same time?
Yes it's good. We are just starting out daughter in Kita (German). Mum speaks Mandarin to her, I speak English. At 18 months she's beginning to separate the languages out in her head and is infront generally linguistically.

Tbh (presuming husband is not an English speaker) id be tempted to put her in a bilingual Kita so she picks up English too.
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