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It doesn't matter what people make of it, the batch has to be called back, all others controlled and the cause of the contamination be found. Simple.
Of course. I merely took issue with the suggested link to the crazy magnetism stuff.
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

What I find just amazing is how some people here love being duped and fooled ... just because someone pushed the right buttons in their prefrontal cortex where there is the emotion network.

This ivermectine -horse- media garbage I'll try to explain how it works...

Those who are the authority decide how one thing should be labeled bad or good (for whatever reasons) .. that can be "crazy dictator somewhere" , "GMOs" "climate" etc... or let's say 's socialized medecine'.

After the 2 World War when almost all western countries had implemented the healthcare for all system .. the USA decided not to do so.
There were no real reasons for that ..and what did they do?? well, they hired agencies, paid the media .. to spread propaganda against socialized medecine.

Their aim was to make it sound as something really bad bad.. to make it look as if people will lose liberties, will go bankrupt will receive very poor healthcare if there was universal healthcare.

And let's say .. you're growing up and you live (in this case in the US) where this propaganda has been told for 100y .. where you could also think:

A) why would the government lie to me ?

B) Ok they do lie sometimes but they cant lie to us, in such a large proportion(so many doctors,consultants,experts,professors) would have proven it's wrong but they never really did so probably it's true - Universal Healthcare is bad for us

C) I've got a cousin who was in Europe and says how they have Socialized Medecine but everyone has a private insurance as well... ( ha ha ?! you see? so it doesnt really work... probably is bad but they got in the private insurers .. I'm telling you there's soemthing fishy about it)

Conclusions: in order for someone to sell you a war, pay more taxes to save the planet, block you from universal healthcare or ivermectin or non-GMO food... they will be unscrupulous and will use any type of a false information, horse photos with a doctor, tell you how "we're thinking and doing what's for your best" ..

What they really know is how our brains are very much like the fish in a bowl brain.. we forget and each new round we think "oh ok they lied before BUT NOW NO. This is too big. They cant lie on this.
And there you go.. be scared of ivermectin and believe the horse talk


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Old 02.09.2021, 18:59
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----- What they really know is how our brains are very much like the fish in a bowl brain.. we forget and each new round we think "oh ok they lied before BUT NOW NO. This is too big. They cant lie on this.
And there you go.. be scared of ivermectin and believe the horse talk .....
I actually read the whole post this time (I normally don't) and I'm puzzled: Shouldn't I go for fish-medicine instead?

Are you a Kindergarten teacher by any chance?
Well, at least you blushed at the end, that gives hope.
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Old 02.09.2021, 19:18
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This ivermectine -horse- media garbage I'll try to explain how it works...
No, I'll explain how it works - the people refusing to take a vaccine because they are worried about side effects and that trials were not long enough are quite happy to take a treatment used to treat animals for parasites instead.

There are ongoing trials for ivermectin use in humans to reduce COVID symptoms.

How about these people apply the same reasoning (or lack of) that they applied to the various COVID vaccines, to ivermectin and wait for both the results of the trials, and for the drug to be made available as a treatment for COVID with prescribed and confirmed dosage?

For people who have had the vaccine, how many of these, when at a clinic about to have their injection, have said, "I've done my research (on the internet) and I think I'm going to have five doses in one go rather than one but in my buttocks rather than my arm"
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What I find just amazing is how some people here love being duped and fooled ... just because someone pushed the right buttons in their prefrontal cortex where there is the emotion network.

This ivermectine -horse- media garbage I'll try to explain how it works...

..[full quote above]...

And there you go.. be scared of ivermectin and believe the horse talk
No wucking furriies, m8 - I'm a simple soul, please explain why you're not scared of ivermectin (how many doses have you had to date?) but reject covid vaccination as spawn of the devil?
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

Tom123 and I'll explain you how you're wrong.

- Those people you are talking about, who refuse the vaccine.. are the same people who never took the flu vaccine yet there's flu every year.
- People, have seen over years how we have the flu vaccine and heard experts who said the flu vaccine has efficiency of 30% because the virus mutates within the season anyhow

People may not believe in a new technology vaccine since for years they've told us how the vaccines go through years and years of testing and observing since the side effects can be of a different nature, length and so on..
In fact this is why may formulas have changed over the years.

the moment when you are repeating a lie that's been told to you by the media is .. "are quite happy to take a treatment used to treat animals for parasites instead."
"There are ongoing trials for ivermectin use in humans to reduce COVID symptoms."


This is simply not true since for now 40y you have ivermectin in pharmacies. (human pharmacies)

It just happens how this medicament is also used in vet medecine.

When they manipulate you how this is a horse-animal medicament and "hey buddy sorry but you're not a horse" (type of headlines) is because so many molecules and drugs are used for humans and animals .

There is no problem when benzodiazepines are used for both like Lorazepam, Ketamine etc... and how all drugs we use first have to work on animals ..

but now for Ivermectin - they use techniques to ridicule the scientists who are saying this works, people who are open to a treatment ...
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

Yes, thanks for boiling it down for ALL OF those who don't share your beliefs...

The sheer arrogance just boggles the mind...

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No, I'll explain how it works - the people refusing to take a vaccine because they are worried about side effects and that trials were not long enough are quite happy to take a treatment used to treat animals for parasites instead.

There are ongoing trials for ivermectin use in humans to reduce COVID symptoms.

How about these people apply the same reasoning (or lack of) that they applied to the various COVID vaccines, to ivermectin and wait for both the results of the trials, and for the drug to be made available as a treatment for COVID with prescribed and confirmed dosage?

For people who have had the vaccine, how many of these, when at a clinic about to have their injection, have said, "I've done my research (on the internet) and I think I'm going to have five doses in one go rather than one but in my buttocks rather than my arm"
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Old 02.09.2021, 19:51
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

And for those who are repeating the propaganda served on a silver plate...

like "oh why should I use a medicament for parasites!!!!when I'm not having any!)

what they dont tell you is how many medicaments are used for different things

like Gabapentin is an anti-epileptic medication but also is used to treat herpes zoster...

Minoxidil was used as a medication to treat high blood pressure but it turned out it can treat baldness...

Also, drug Finasteride which is used to treat an enlarged prostate and can be used to maintain hair growth in men (propecia)

Or, Sildenafil the active molecule in in Pfizer's drug Viagra, . It's also used in Revatio, an FDA-approved drug to treat pulmonary arterial hypertension, in which there's a narrowing of the arteries leading into the lungs.

Some of you can see how much of a laugh they have when they sell you the scaremongering stories about Ivermectin, horses,parasites ??
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Old 02.09.2021, 20:02
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Yes, thanks for boiling it down for ALL OF those who don't share your beliefs...

The sheer arrogance just boggles the mind...
It's nothing to do with beliefs. It using the same logic for all medicines and not just the ones that don't fit your agenda.

The sheer stupidity just boggles the mind..
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And how could I forget his majesty the Aspartame. )

"Schlatter had synthesized aspartame as an intermediate step in generating a tetrapeptide of the hormone gastrin, for use in assessing an anti-ulcer drug candidate. He discovered its sweet taste when he licked his finger, which had become contaminated with aspartame, to lift up a piece of paper."

Phenalyne (ingredient in aspartame) levels can cause disruptions in neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine, which are important for mood, learning, memory, and motivation. In addition to disrupting neurotransmitter balance, Phenalyne itself can be directly toxic to the brain.

PD Searle (the company) did a lot of lobbying so the FDA will approve it in food..But FDA banned it and didnt want to allow it to be used in food/medicaments.

Only in 1983 when Donald Rumsfeld got into the office FDA approved it for use. (and Rumsfeld being the CEO for 10something years at PD searle)

This was just coincidence.

The point is how a medicament that was supposed to be anti-ulcer drug ended up being in all our food, chewing gums, beverages, medicaments... and that's nooo problem ... but ivermectin for 5 days is a huge risk ? ))
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

Tom, what you explained and what you believe is made to suit "your" agenda. )))

your guys to whom you believe have it on their agenda to ban a treatment whether Ivermectin or CHQ
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Tom, what you explained and what you believe is made to suit "your" agenda. )))

your guys to whom you believe have it on their agenda to ban a treatment whether Ivermectin or CHQ
I never said ban. I said wait until clinical trials had been conducted and the results analysed.
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Some of you can see how much of a laugh they have when they sell you the scaremongering stories about Ivermectin, horses,parasites ??
It's not about scaremongering stories but about Ivermectin being effective against Covid. That's the one and only question.
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What I find just amazing is how some people here love being duped and fooled ... just because someone pushed the right buttons in their prefrontal cortex where there is the emotion network.
Yep. That's how conspiracy theories draw the hard-of-critical-thinking in. They're particularly clever, because the dupes think that they're the ones who are thinking critically and all others are sheeple.

Conspiracy theories. How stupid people get to feel intellectual.
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It's not about scaremongering stories but about Ivermectin being effective against Covid. That's the one and only question.
Except...Ivermectin was immediately criticised by both Merk (the original manufacturer) and other established authorities as "ineffective" and potentially "dangerous" in the Spring of 2020.

That criticism effectively shut down any conversation about the potential efficacy of Ivermectin. It took a group of doctors and other epidemiologists who lobbied for Ivermectin studies and trials for the NIH agree to run such trials. Note that this was this past Spring 2021 and if my memory serves me correctly, the NIH said their "trials" would take 2 years before completion.

Funny how the 2 year trial period happens to coincide with the end of EAU of vaccines in the US.

I recall another COVID conversation which was also shut down immediately - namely, the lab leak theory. Once Fauci and other scientists' emails were released last Autumn, well, what rhymes with collusion?

I think the Scientific Community lost a lot of credibility (Lancet et al) when those emails were published.

And you wonder why some remain sceptical regarding vaccines? It is a shame really but in my view, authorities - at least in the US - did not help matters.

Why can't the NIH accelerate trials/research on Ivermectin as they did with vaccines? My sense is that a lot of this has to do with profits (ahem...Merk! - who is now developing their own anti-therapeutic as I type - go figure).

For the record, Ivermectin has been around for 40+ years and is dispensed to humans as an anti-malarial drug. Why does everyone keep referring to it (and I include MSM here) as a horse de-worming pill? We are not referring to horses here or other animals but humans regarding COVID:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31808594/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31948767/
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No, I'll explain how it works - the people refusing to take a vaccine because they are worried about side effects and that trials were not long enough are quite happy to take a treatment used to treat animals for parasites instead.

There are ongoing trials for ivermectin use in humans to reduce COVID symptoms.

How about these people apply the same reasoning (or lack of) that they applied to the various COVID vaccines, to ivermectin and wait for both the results of the trials, and for the drug to be made available as a treatment for COVID with prescribed and confirmed dosage?

For people who have had the vaccine, how many of these, when at a clinic about to have their injection, have said, "I've done my research (on the internet) and I think I'm going to have five doses in one go rather than one but in my buttocks rather than my arm"
Another reason people all over the world are looking at ivermectin (and other possible treatments) is because the vaccine is not available where they live. Its not as simple as a choice between a vaccine and a drug. Its possible they have not had the chance to get vaccinated. What do the do if they get covid? Sit and wait for 6 month, 12 months, 3 years until the vaccine is available for them. Wouldn't it be great to save lives with an early treatment.
Anyway I am not surprised you cant see it any other way than your way since you couldn't even tell the difference between 70% of all poison calls and 70% of ivermectin related poison calls. Totally different.
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For the record, Ivermectin has been around for 40+ years and is dispensed to humans as an anti-malarial drug. Why does everyone keep referring to it (and I include MSM here) as a horse de-worming pill? We are not referring to horses here or other animals but humans regarding COVID:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31808594/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31948767/
It's not - it's been used in trials.

Do you read the links you provide?

In the first of your two links, the conclusion of the massive trial (12 people) was that ivermectin was useless:

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Here's another one which shows it's inconclusive in reducing malaria transmission.
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It's not - it's been used in trials.

Do you read the links you provide?

In the first of your two links, the conclusion of the massive trial (12 people) was that ivermectin was useless:



Here's another one which shows it's inconclusive in reducing malaria transmission.
Here you go Tom... Try and use Duck Duck Go instead of google and you will find a heck of a lot more research regarding Ivermectin and it's efficacy. This paper relates to Ivermectin and COVID:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/
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Here you go Tom... Try and use Duck Duck Go instead of google and you will find a heck of a lot more research regarding Ivermectin and it's efficacy. This paper relates to Ivermectin and COVID:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/
This paper states they used "an in silico approach".

This means they used a computer to model how Ivermectin might interact with the COVID-19 virus, they never actually touched Ivermectin or did any practical tests.
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Another reason people all over the world are looking at ivermectin (and other possible treatments) is because the vaccine is not available where they live. Its not as simple as a choice between a vaccine and a drug. Its possible they have not had the chance to get vaccinated. What do the do if they get covid? Sit and wait for 6 month, 12 months, 3 years until the vaccine is available for them. Wouldn't it be great to save lives with an early treatment.
Anyway I am not surprised you cant see it any other way than your way since you couldn't even tell the difference between 70% of all poison calls and 70% of ivermectin related poison calls. Totally different.
You posted today that you do not believe this virus exists so why do you believe an early treatment would save lives when there is no "killer" virus?
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