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Old 02.09.2021, 22:41
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Except...Ivermectin was immediately criticised by both Merk (the original manufacturer) and other established authorities as "ineffective" and potentially "dangerous" in the Spring of 2020.

That criticism effectively shut down any conversation about the potential efficacy of Ivermectin. It took a group of doctors and other epidemiologists who lobbied for Ivermectin studies and trials for the NIH agree to run such trials. Note that this was this past Spring 2021 and if my memory serves me correctly, the NIH said their "trials" would take 2 years before completion.

Funny how the 2 year trial period happens to coincide with the end of EAU of vaccines in the US.

I recall another COVID conversation which was also shut down immediately - namely, the lab leak theory. Once Fauci and other scientists' emails were released last Autumn, well, what rhymes with collusion?

I think the Scientific Community lost a lot of credibility (Lancet et al) when those emails were published.

And you wonder why some remain sceptical regarding vaccines? It is a shame really but in my view, authorities - at least in the US - did not help matters.

Why can't the NIH accelerate trials/research on Ivermectin as they did with vaccines? My sense is that a lot of this has to do with profits (ahem...Merk! - who is now developing their own anti-therapeutic as I type - go figure).

For the record, Ivermectin has been around for 40+ years and is dispensed to humans as an anti-malarial drug. Why does everyone keep referring to it (and I include MSM here) as a horse de-worming pill? We are not referring to horses here or other animals but humans regarding COVID:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31808594/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31948767/
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I'm a bit puzzled. I thought this anti-ivermectin fight is about self-medication. Now it sounds more like our self declared EF specialists already know it's crap? While sensible scientists are researching the possibility?
After all, ivermectin might not be the answer but one ingredient of it?
Just a short while ago a friend of mine took a medication for one thing and had a completely other problem fixed in the process. Now THAT was a surprise! His doctor is sensible enough to ask around and follow up on it.

I don't do self-medication. In fact I even argue with my doctor about medication he wants me to take.
But we would have absolutely nothing - from medication to technology - had we followed this new trend of clueless people shooting everything down when the first spark of idea lights up.
And yes, I too am surprised how the same people plopp like dominoes for a vaccine jump-started like the covid-vaccine.
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Old 02.09.2021, 22:42
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It's not - it's been used in trials.

Do you read the links you provide?

In the first of your two links, the conclusion of the massive trial (12 people) was that ivermectin was useless:



Here's another one which shows it's inconclusive in reducing malaria transmission.
So enlighten me, how Ivermectin went through a lengthy, arduous FDA verification process via Merk, it's initial manufacturer and was deemed safe and approved after "proper" FDA trials (which, by the way, were a heck of a lot more involved than our current COVID vaccines). This drug was approved 40 years ago as very safe for distribution among Humans for anti-malarial treatment. And has proven to be a very safe and effective drug against malaria and parasites.

Now you show a paper which states it is ineffective against malarial transmission? How timely! That paper was issued in March 2021 and this drug has been widely distributed worldwide and now this paper disputes it's efficacy?

Oh that's right... I keep forgetting all of those scientists who desperately need funding and who agreed to sign on to the "anti lab leak" paper effectively ending that conversation.

And so now another paper emerges which discredits Ivermectin as an effective anti-malarial in March 2021 when the drug has been used worldwide for the same treatment for 40+ years?

Now that is too funny! Good ole science! One wonders why the vaccine uptake is so poor. These guys shoot themselves in the foot every time...

Frankly, it boggles the mind how anyone trusts the scientific community after this debacle...
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Old 02.09.2021, 22:55
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So enlighten me, how Ivermectin went through a lengthy, arduous FDA verification process via Merk, it's initial manufacturer and was deemed safe and approved after "proper" FDA trials (which, by the way, were a heck of a lot more involved than our current COVID vaccines). This drug was approved 40 years ago as very safe for distribution among Humans for anti-malarial treatment. And has proven to be a very safe and effective drug against malaria and parasites.

Now you show a paper which states it is ineffective against malarial transmission? How timely! That paper was issued in March 2021 and this drug has been widely distributed worldwide and now this paper disputes it's efficacy?

Oh that's right... I keep forgetting all of those scientists who desperately need funding and who agreed to sign on to the "anti lab leak" paper effectively ending that conversation.

And so now another paper emerges which discredits Ivermectin as an effective anti-malarial in March 2021 when the drug has been used worldwide for the same treatment for 40+ years?

Now that is too funny! Good ole science! One wonders why the vaccine uptake is so poor. These guys shoot themselves in the foot every time...

Frankly, it boggles the mind how anyone trusts the scientific community after this debacle...
The current ivermectin oral formulation has FDA approval for the treatment of strongyloidiasis and for the treatment/control of oncho-cerciasis in mass-distribution campaigns, there is no FDA approval for the treatment of malaria.
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Old 02.09.2021, 22:58
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What does EAU stand for in your post?


I'm a bit puzzled. I thought this anti-ivermectin fight is about self-medication. Now it sounds more like our self declared EF specialists already know it's crap? While sensible scientists are researching the possibility?
After all, ivermectin might not be the answer but one ingredient of it?
Just a short while ago a friend of mine took a medication for one thing and had a completely other problem fixed in the process. Now THAT was a surprise! His doctor is sensible enough to ask around and follow up on it.

I don't do self-medication. In fact I even argue with my doctor about medication he wants me to take.
But we would have absolutely nothing - from medication to technology - had we followed this new trend of clueless people shooting everything down when the first spark of idea lights up.
And yes, I too am surprised how the same people plopp like dominoes for a vaccine jump-started like the covid-vaccine.
EUA stands for Emergency Use Authorisation. Basically, it allowed the pharma companies to evade normal FDA approval timeline to get the vaccines out as fast as possible - which is good news and not so good news as it didn't receive the same rigorous treatment in testing as other medications and vaccines. But desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose...

I think the MSM is promoting the idea that many are self-medicating and using Ivermectin in the paste that is used for horses for de-worming.

I am vaccinated but apparently, there is an effective cocktail out there (How the heck did Trump and Chris Christie - given their weight survive COVID?). Joe Rogan just came out with video/tweet. Apparently he had COVID last Saturday and took a cocktail (including Ivermectin). There is a protocol of vitamins (C and D), ivermectin and steroids.

Here is a link to the the website of physicians who demanded the NIH run trials on Ivermectin. Note to reference under their website, the "Protocol" page which delves into treatment programs they have witnessed has great success re: COVID...

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covi...plus-protocol/
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The current ivermectin oral formulation has FDA approval for the treatment of strongyloidiasis and for the treatment/control of oncho-cerciasis in mass-distribution campaigns, there is no FDA approval for the treatment of malaria.
It is an anti-parasitic Marton and has several applications. Ivermectin, as an anti-malarial is used in Africa and other countries. The US doesn't really have issues with malaria
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Old 02.09.2021, 23:13
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It is an anti-parasitic Marton and has several applications. Ivermectin, as an anti-malarial is used in Africa and other countries. The US doesn't really have issues with malaria
... and university of Basel published a study of 2013 (I too use DuckDuckgo ). So it's actually old news

the link is in German because Basel is ..... yep, in Switzerland. The title is in English though I guess headline-reading only was already popular in 2013.
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Old 02.09.2021, 23:19
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It is an anti-parasitic Marton and has several applications. Ivermectin, as an anti-malarial is used in Africa and other countries. The US doesn't really have issues with malaria
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Ivermectin went through a lengthy, arduous FDA verification process via Merk, it's initial manufacturer and was deemed safe and approved after "proper" FDA trials (which, by the way, were a heck of a lot more involved than our current COVID vaccines). This drug was approved 40 years ago as very safe for distribution among Humans for anti-malarial treatment.
What you wrote is not true, is it? The FDA never approved it as an anti-malarial.

Can you please inform me which countries have formally approved Ivermectin as an anti-malarial? It is indeed an anti-parasitic but unfortunately does not kill the malaria parasites.
So it is not surprising that papers emerge which discredit Ivermectin as an effective anti-malarial in March 2021.

There is a theory that when mosquitos sting someone who has ivermectin in their blood then the mosquito soon dies and so does not infect another person, this is why some countries use Ivermectin to limit transmission but not as an anti-malarial.

Edit: the post above from Curley confirms the use as a mosquito killer.
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Old 02.09.2021, 23:23
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How timely... Matt Taibbi just published this article on YouTube re: Ivermectin and raises interesting points regarding algorithms and what they get wrong re: censorship...

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/meet-t...7SsbIrCNTsSKEs
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Old 02.09.2021, 23:27
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Yep. That's how conspiracy theories draw the hard-of-critical-thinking in. They're particularly clever, because the dupes think that they're the ones who are thinking critically and all others are sheeple.

Conspiracy theories. How stupid people get to feel intellectual.

NotAllthere, Yes you are very smart and clever. Yes you are. Lovely how you're falling for this cheap talk that has been sold to you.
I think how this has given to some of you a huge superiority feeling.

And yes I prefer to feel intellectual and being with dr Geert Van der Bossche, dr Malone, dr Bridle, dr Ioannidis, dr Kulldorf, dr Wodarg, dr Tess Lawrie, dr Rend Paul, dr Risinger , dr Peronne, dr Raoult, and on and on......... since I'm not inventing anything I'm just repeating what they have written, said, published, debated etc.... indirectly you're calling them uneducated and conspiracy theorists.
But you dont even think this yourself.. because if you did you would've listen to all they have to say and you would've attacked all the points - where they're wrong. (or I am wrong ...since I'm repeating what they say)

The thing is your mind has been directed to that point > "those ppl love conspiracy, it makes them feel smart but they're usually very poorly educated" and this is where it ends.

What you've been drawn into is a situation where you go from consented to coercive. I'm saying this, because I image you (or some other people here) giving these definitions to us (us the conspiracy theorists) but then ... if you are really thinking with your head I wonder what would you say to this conspiracy theorist lady, Christina Parks speaking in front of all these people and then NotAllThere stands up and explains her how she's wrong and she doesnt understand a thing about science ... ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPlVJEyWAKY&t=5s
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What you wrote is not true, is it? The FDA never approved it as an anti-malarial.

Can you please inform me which countries have formally approved Ivermectin as an anti-malarial? It is indeed an anti-parasitic but unfortunately does not kill the malaria parasites.
So it is not surprising that papers emerge which discredit Ivermectin as an effective anti-malarial in March 2021.

There is a theory that when mosquitos sting someone who has ivermectin in their blood then the mosquito soon dies and so does not infect another person, this is why some countries use Ivermectin to limit transmission but not as an anti-malarial.

Edit: the post above from Curley confirms the use as a mosquito killer.
I just found this link via Duck Duck Go. I think google is censoring content frankly:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...321-3/fulltext
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Old 02.09.2021, 23:39
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

In other words, dr Alessandro Santin , a researcher scientist from Yale and me here are both dumb and stupid according to the covidian anti-ivermectin lobby here who are watching manipulative photos of horses and doctors with catchy headlines (and of course then ridicule everyone else who claims somethign else)
https://i.postimg.cc/Pr5NS1Xf/Screen...t-22-36-33.png

But, doctors scientists who are prescribing ivermectin like this dr Santin, is considered - pure madness. ?



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Old 02.09.2021, 23:42
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

This paper, written in 2011, is even better as it examines Ivermectin for human use and it's various efficacies. It even calls it "the wonder drug" and makes analogies to penicillin. It gives an an interesting historical perspective...

Duck Duck Go is your friend

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

Here is another paper regarding Ivermectin and efficacy re: COVID published Jan 2021:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33259913/

Ivermectin was given the Nobel Prize in 2015 for it's anti-malarial efficacy:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52297521000883
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Old 02.09.2021, 23:44
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dr Rend Paul... indirectly you're calling them uneducated and conspiracy theorists.
You mean the Trump poodle eye doctor who regularly makes a fool of himself when questioning Fauci in Congress?
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Oh yes.
Can you imagine that? how insane is it to listen to a medical doctor, a politician (meaning he has access to a lot of information) having a father physician and a politican like Rand Paul has, how is that not acceptable in your world ?
who are you listening to ? scripted media? fauci? Ferguson-Drosten team ?
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Oh yes.
Can you imagine that? how insane is it to listen to a medical doctor, a politician (meaning he has access to a lot of information) having a father physician and a politican like Rand Paul has, how is that not acceptable in your world ?
who are you listening to ? scripted media? fauci? Ferguson-Drosten team ?
You know perfectly well that I am a fool and sheep who is being brainwashed by "them". So I take this as a rethorical question.
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

I suppose since you're very interested in this topic you're watching the dr Christina Parks 8 min video ? NotAllThere , komsomolez and gaburko are probably veryfing the information, the theories , politics&science by looking at the problem from all sides? dont you?

if you negate someone then you probably do listen to what that person is claiming ?

marton&chuffs are waiting for more simplified version of it , like looney tunes video with a catchy tune "jab jab jab all the good Gods people and mectin-horse-iver for the bab bad bad Gods people" ..and they'll give their opinion tomorrow afternoon
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This paper, written in 2011, is even better as it examines Ivermectin for human use and it's various efficacies. It even calls it "the wonder drug" and makes analogies to penicillin. It gives an an interesting historical perspective...

Duck Duck Go is your friend

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

Here is another paper regarding Ivermectin and efficacy re: COVID published Jan 2021:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33259913/

Ivermectin was given the Nobel Prize in 2015 for it's anti-malarial efficacy:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52297521000883
Please, please, please stop posting such nonsense!

Ivermectin was not given the Nobel Prize in 2015, William Campbell was awarded the 2015 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine (shared with Japanese microbiologist Ōmura Satoshi and Chinese scientist Tu Youyou) for their work on anthelmintic compounds avermectin and ivermectin. Ivermectin was quoted as effective for treating Lymphatic Filariasis and Onchocerciasis, not malaria
Additionally Tu Youyou was cited for his work on Artemisinin which is an anti-malarial drug that is not in any way related to ivermectin.
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Please, please, please stop posting such nonsense!

Ivermectin was not given the Nobel Prize in 2015, William Campbell was awarded the 2015 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine (shared with Japanese microbiologist Ōmura Satoshi and Chinese scientist Tu Youyou) for their work on anthelmintic compounds avermectin and ivermectin. Ivermectin was quoted as effective for treating Lymphatic Filariasis and Onchocerciasis, not malaria
Additionally Tu Youyou was cited for his work on Artemisinin which is an anti-malarial drug that is not in any way related to ivermectin.
Okay Marton...let's not be pedantic here. Yes... the authors were awarded the Nobel Prize for their research on Ivermectin. But the fact remains that Ivermectin is a very safe drug and used for multiple purposes in HUMANS and has anti-parasitic and malarial benefits!

Please reference the other articles I posted
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Just imagine the government starts pushing ivermectin, free monthly amounts like the do-it-yourself-housewife-tests so far.



The campaign will be much cheaper than the covid-test campaign was of course because most EFers won't go get it because it's crap and they know it.

FMF, do start on the statistic of the "anything apart from vaccination is BS" group, the "ivermectin is the way to go, never mind science" group, the "interesting, let's see how the research on it turns out" group. (The last would contain me)
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In other words, dr Alessandro Santin , a researcher scientist from Yale ...
Alessandro Santin, MD
Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences; Disease Aligned Research Team Leader, Gynecologic Oncology Program, Yale Cancer Center; Co-Chief, Section of Gynecologic Oncology
https://medicine.yale.edu/profile/alessandro_santin/

There is nothing, zero, nada in his bio which would make him an authority on covid.
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