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And feel free to buy the narrative Kosmoolev as it would appear you cannot be fussed to do proper research!
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And feel free to buy the narrative Kosmoolev as it would appear you cannot be fussed to to proper research!
Using a search engine like google or duckduck is not defined as proper research.

Research is defined as the creation of new knowledge and/or the use of existing knowledge in a new and creative way so as to generate new concepts, methodologies, and understandings. This could include synthesis and analysis of previous research to the extent that it leads to new and creative outcomes.

At best searching the internet just enables one to copy and quote what other people have written; nothing new results.
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Using a search engine like google or duckduck is not defined as proper research.

Research is defined as the creation of new knowledge and/or the use of existing knowledge in a new and creative way so as to generate new concepts, methodologies, and understandings. This could include synthesis and analysis of previous research to the extent that it leads to new and creative outcomes.

At best searching the internet just enables one to copy and quote what other people have written; nothing new results.
No no no. Research is watching youtube videos about vaccines from people with PhD's in chiropraxy and homeopathy, following their facebook feeds, and finding papers that at first glance appear to support my pre-existing point of view. Even thought they don't because I don't really understand some of the words and concepts used. And of course ignoring (or dismissing as corrupt) any evidence that is contrary to my beliefs.

Asimov predicted this. In one of the early Foundation stories, he has an archaeologist who never visits ancient sites. He considers research to be reading various sources of opinion, and then making up his own mind what is true.
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No no no. Research is watching youtube videos about vaccines from people with PhD's in chiropraxy and homeopathy, following their facebook feeds, and finding papers that at first glance appear to support my pre-existing point of view. Even thought they don't because I don't really understand some of the words and concepts used. And of course ignoring (or dismissing as corrupt) any evidence that is contrary to my beliefs.

Asimov predicted this. In one of the early Foundation stories, he has an archaeologist who never visits ancient sites. He considers research to be reading various sources of opinion, and then making up his own mind what is true.
There was at least one interesting study on how people falsely believe they are doing research on the internet and so gaining more knowledge.

Good old Asimov, he died around thirty years ago - whatever would he make of today's world.-
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Old 05.09.2021, 23:04
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….as not even Americans weigh as much as horse……
Oh I don’t know. I’m on holiday and I’ve seen a couple of pony sized ones already. There’s sure to be some small horse sized ones out there.
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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

You mean what you have been doing on EF for donkey years with your "sources?"

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Using a search engine like google or duckduck is not defined as proper research.

Research is defined as the creation of new knowledge and/or the use of existing knowledge in a new and creative way so as to generate new concepts, methodologies, and understandings. This could include synthesis and analysis of previous research to the extent that it leads to new and creative outcomes.

At best searching the internet just enables one to copy and quote what other people have written; nothing new results.
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Old 06.09.2021, 00:41
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You mean what you have been doing on EF for donkey years with your "sources?"
In fact, the information you shared from Robert W Malone, MD is a classic example.

Malone claims he is showing the African countries that use ivermectin have reduced COVID-19 cases.

But nobody tells us, including Malone himself, where the information about which countries do and do not use ivermectin came from.
We do not know if they use Ivermectin as a prophylactic or as a treatment. Or if for treatment then if they treat all cases or just the serious ones.
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Oh I don’t know. I’m on holiday and I’ve seen a couple of pony sized ones already. There’s sure to be some small horse sized ones out there.
You won't see them though, they're no longer fit to walk or even drive one of those minicar thingies.
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Old 06.09.2021, 08:10
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No no no. Research is watching youtube videos about vaccines from people with PhD's in chiropraxy and homeopathy, following their facebook feeds, and finding papers that at first glance appear to support my pre-existing point of view.
Reminded me of this.

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Unfortunately, this is Fake News as Rolling Stone originally ran the piece but "forgot" to confirm with the hospital where this doctor worked. The AP and other outlets (including The Guardian, MSNBC) "ran" with this story.
I'm no longer surprised how a fake news story like this is allowed to spread around the world. Check out the Twitter thread below, it gives a nice summary though!

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/st...91443855753220

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It would’ve taken a single phone call to shoot this story down.

Why didn’t that happen?

And the same people who purport to be concerned about misinformation and how it spreads on platforms like Twitter will surely be silent on this.

Where’s the nashing of teeth from the “disinformation” reporters? Where are the Twitter content warnings? Where’s the outrage?

You won’t hear any. Because this is the acceptable type of political lie.

And none of these people or outlets will learn anything. They’ll keep doing this.

Because they care more about scoring cheap dunks on their opponents than getting the truth.

People are so triggered by Ivermectin, that they're just DESPARATE to disprove it as a possible treatment. Which is why there are those who keep referring to the drug as "Horse Dewormer" when it clearly isn't. This is a clear tactic employed by the media (and many on this forum )to dump those they don’t think ought to have a voice. Keep following the sCIEnCe!!
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No no no. Research is watching youtube videos about vaccines from people with PhD's in chiropraxy and homeopathy, following their facebook feeds, and finding papers that at first glance appear to support my pre-existing point of view. Even thought they don't because I don't really understand some of the words and concepts used. And of course ignoring (or dismissing as corrupt) any evidence that is contrary to my beliefs.

Asimov predicted this. In one of the early Foundation stories, he has an archaeologist who never visits ancient sites. He considers research to be reading various sources of opinion, and then making up his own mind what is true.
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Using a search engine like google or duckduck is not defined as proper research.

Research is defined as the creation of new knowledge and/or the use of existing knowledge in a new and creative way so as to generate new concepts, methodologies, and understandings. This could include synthesis and analysis of previous research to the extent that it leads to new and creative outcomes.

At best searching the internet just enables one to copy and quote what other people have written; nothing new results.
And where do all the pro-covid vaxxers get their information from? They are not in the labs doing experiments either.
Everyone is just doing the best the can with the time and resources they have available.

I have read a number of books about vaccines, viruses and general health. I have read the main stream media and yes I have read a lot on the internet from both pro and anti vaccine supporters. I have also watched youtube, odysee, rumble etc. I think I have done more than most, I did the best I could do with the resources and time I had and with that information I have made the best decision for me. I don't know why anyone has the right to tell me that I am wrong.

That stupid picture of a mum sitting on a toilet (I did not want to repost it). Mums do not get any spare time and sometime this is literally the only time you they get in a day to be by themselves. (If you think differently you are an idiot). If this only time they get to find information to make such an important decision - leave them alone.
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People are so triggered by Ivermectin, that they're just DESPERATE to disprove it as a possible treatment.
FTFY.

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It is a horse dewormer. It's also, in the correct dose, a human dewormer. In the US, the covidiots are buying horse dewormer (containing Ivermectin) so they can self-medicate. If that's not stupidity, I'd be delighted to hear your definition.
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Pouring ridicule on stupidity is quite normal when you've tried being reasonable and informative and the covidiots still insist their delusions are right and you run out of patience.

There's also the nudge theory. Pouring scorn on stupid ideas might put waverers off. Those predisposed to disbelieve experts and the True Believers will of course not be affected by the mockery, but overall, you stop the spread of the destructive, harmful meme.

Finally ad hominem is fun!
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FTFY.

It is a horse dewormer. It's also, in the correct dose, a human dewormer. In the US, the covidiots are buying horse dewormer (containing Ivermectin) so they can self-medicate. If that's not stupidity, I'd be delighted to hear your definition. Pouring ridicule on stupidity is quite normal when you've tried being reasonable and informative and the covidiots still insist their delusions are right and you run out of patience.
I don't believe there is anyone on this thread who thinks people taking horse dewormer (containing ivermectin) is doing the right thing. So you can stop telling us this. WE KNOW.
I am also sure the people taking it are not that stupid but are desperate and trying to make the best of their situation. If doctors were allowed to prescribe it (many would but arent allowed) or if it was available then maybe this problem will solve.
No need to reply and tell me its not been approved - I also know this. Just because its not approved for covid does not mean it is not safe if taken at the right dose. All the information is out there if people choose to read.
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FTFY.

It is a horse dewormer. It's also, in the correct dose, a human dewormer. In the US, the covidiots are buying horse dewormer (containing Ivermectin) so they can self-medicate. If that's not stupidity, I'd be delighted to hear your definition. Pouring ridicule on stupidity is quite normal when you've tried being reasonable and informative and the covidiots still insist their delusions are right and you run out of patience.
The fact is very few people have taken horse dewormer, but the MSM are pretending that it's a serious problem, hence the fake news story that ran in Rolling Stone. Also pretending ivermectin is solely a horse wormer, when it's been used safely by humans for decades is why people don't trust the MSM anymore.

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Re: Where to buy ivermectin?

The problem is the internet, YouTube, etc. are not mature information environments: there is no control of the content people post so there are excellent articles alongside completely false information and there is much less effort in organizing information.
It is not like doing research in technical libraries or technical information sources where an effort is made to host accurate material.

Results may be affected by unrecognized bias, difficulties in verifying a writer's credentials (and therefore the accuracy or pertinence of the information obtained) and whether the searcher has sufficient skill to draw meaningful results from the abundance of material typically available

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And where do all the pro-covid vaxxers get their information from?
Well, that is easy to answer, we get the info. from peer reviewed studies published by these people
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And where do all the pro-covid vaxxers get their information from? They are not in the labs doing experiments either.
Everyone is just doing the best the can with the time and resources they have available.
I pay people to do it for me through my taxes.
The difference between these people and your Youtubers is that these people actually know what they are talking about.

You mentioned you had read books about vaccines. I bet these weren't books about the study of epidemiology and wonder of vaccines and and how they have saved millions of lives but these sorts of books which are basically on the same shelves in the bookstore as cheap romance novels:







Am I right?
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Am I right?
Nope - you are wrong.
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Nope - you are wrong.
So what books concerning vaccines did you read then?

Perhaps we can educate ourselves too?
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AAAAAALLL Righty then


A Brief History of Time:

Few people here wanted to raise the level and talk about ivermectin and what's behind it and share information of what many scientists are talking around but they dont get to be quoted in the MSM Headlines... and instead of the EF intelligentsia joining this and trying to put in their analytical skills, knowledge (data analysis, critical/ lateral thinking,deductive reasoning) .... well , no no, nothing like it..

Not once did the smart/intelligent/clever boys of EF like NotAllthere,Komso,.. really read one of the links.. or even activated their frontal cortex so they're into the thinkning process. no no, it's all about :

"HA! you gave a link from some phd scientist and he with a big team of phd scientists made a study even two.. nah! that's CRAP CRAP, ha ha " here's a meme showing how you just dont know anything and that's it ??

But what you extra intelligent guys are doing is only repeating the perverted litany that you have been told which end in this colourful mental coercion , that ends up like this and yet you see no problem with it :

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Somehow the thread about ivermectin was derailed by vaccines
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