Where to buy ivermectin? - Page 17

marton · #**321** 07.09.2021, 10:44

An Ohio judge on Monday ruled a hospital no longer had to give a COVID-19 patient ivermectin, reversing a previous decision from another judge.

“While this court is sympathetic to the Plaintiff and understands the idea of wanting to do anything to help her loved one, public policy should not and does not support allowing a physician to try ‘any’ type of treatment on human beings,” Common Pleas Judge Michael Oster said in the court order.

TonyClifton · #**322** 07.09.2021, 10:51

	Quote:	NotAllThere
	Er... no. And people are still taking hydroxychloroquine.

Oh yes how could I forget, all those people turning up at hospitals because Donald Trump told them to inject themselves with bleach

Caleb · #**323** 07.09.2021, 11:01

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Oh yes how could I forget, all those people turning up at hospitals because Donald Trump told them to inject themselves with bleach

Nah, stupidity is evenly distributed over all countries around the world. Unfortunately it's not exclusive to the US. The US is just more visible because of sheer size, usage of social media, user-generated content is written in English, etc.

Interesting paper on the current infodemic (written by researchers in Hungary): https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/14/7475/htm

TonyClifton · #**324** 07.09.2021, 11:11

	Quote:	Caleb
	Nah, stupidity is evenly distributed over all countries around the world. Unfortunately it's not exclusive to the US. The US is just more visible because of sheer size, usage of social media, user-generated content is written in English, etc. Interesting paper on the current infodemic (written by researchers in Hungary): https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/14/7475/htm

There's going to be a few people everywhere who take matters to the extreme. The fact of the matter is though that these people are in a minority.

As I've mentioned before, I've no great affection for Ivermectin one way or the other. There's enough evidence to suggest it could be of benefit though so I'm prepared to keep an open mind. It's certainly a safe medicine, so if people make the choice to try Ivermectin based on current evidence then that is up to them. I certainly won't be taking it, in the same way I was reluctant to get the vaccine, just because I don't believe the personal threat Covid poses warrants any medical intervention.

Blueangel · #**325** 07.09.2021, 15:43

When you consider one of the claims put out about covid vaccines by the deniers was that it could infertility, there's a certain irony in the findings of this study.

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	DISCISSION For normal fertilization to occur the sperm functions must meet the minimum required sperm functional capacity as shown in table 1[10] which serve as normal control in this study. From the results obtained, it is evident that ivermectin therapy has significant adverse effects on the sperm functions of male onchocerciasis patients so treated. There was a significant reduction or drop in the sperm counts of the patients after their treatment with ivermectin. Furthermore, the study showed a significant and remarkable drop in the sperm motility of the patients after their treatment with ivermectin. As for the morphology of the sperm, there was a rise in the abnormal sperms after treatment compared with the morphology before the commencement of treatment. These changes no doubt are as results of the effects of the drug on the sperm function of the patients. Although, there were no noticeable changes in the sperm volumes, sperm viscosity and the sperm liquefaction time the results of this study is enough to cause infertility in these patients.

https://www.scholarsresearchlibrary....s-patients.pdf

Urs Max · #**326** 07.09.2021, 16:17

	Quote:	Blueangel
	When you consider one of the claims put out about covid vaccines by the deniers was that it could infertility, there's a certain irony in the findings of this study. https://www.scholarsresearchlibrary....s-patients.pdf

First, with only 37 persons tested the results are statistically on shaky ground.

But more importantly, the other 90.6% who failed the test requirements failed because they already had insufficient sperm quality (or insufficient general health, which isn't quantified). That may well mean that the actual cause isn't Ivermectin but the onchocerciasis, even in the 9.4% who qualified for the study.

And of course there's no data on what happens later on, with or without the Ivermectin treatment, whether sperm quality reverts to normal or not.

Verbier · #**327** 07.09.2021, 16:20

The latest from The Lincoln Project.

How does this work?

marton · #**328** 07.09.2021, 19:38

	Quote:	Blueangel
	When you consider one of the claims put out about covid vaccines by the deniers was that it could infertility, there's a certain irony in the findings of this study. https://www.scholarsresearchlibrary....s-patients.pdf

Darwin works in mysterious ways

bossybaby · #**329** 08.09.2021, 09:25

curley · #**330** 08.09.2021, 11:24

	Quote:	bossybaby
	Attachment 142573

LOL.

While it would have been so much easier in paracetamol.

Svenca · #**331** 08.09.2021, 12:45

Since there are so many more deaths and illness due paracetamol than Ivermectin he perhaps thought it might be longer before anyone realises.

Svenca · #**332** 08.09.2021, 12:53

Te FDC states that in order for an EUA to be given for a vaccine there must not be an alternative treatment. Just wondering if this is why people are trying to dismiss ivermectin benefits.
https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/new...n-of-vaccines/

Blueangel · #**333** 08.09.2021, 13:03

	Quote:	Svenca
	Since there are so many more deaths and illness due paracetamol than Ivermectin he perhaps thought it might be longer before anyone realises.

Fantastic example of false equivalence.

One is a freely available, over the counter medication and prone to misuse / overdose as it's also contained in a number of other over the counter medicines. The other is is only available for human use on prescription in the U.S. and only prescribed for limited ailments.

Talk to you later · #**334** 08.09.2021, 13:23

	Quote:
	Where to buy ivermectin?

Ask Joe Rogan

Tom1234 · #**335** 08.09.2021, 14:03

	Quote:	Svenca
	Since there are so many more deaths and illness due paracetamol than Ivermectin he perhaps thought it might be longer before anyone realises.

There are many more deaths due to car accidents then ingestion of equine amounts of ivermectin.

Perhaps people should avoid driving cars and travel by horseback instead?

Svenca · #**336** 08.09.2021, 14:21

	Quote:	Tom1234
	There are many more deaths due to car accidents then ingestion of equine amounts of ivermectin. Perhaps people should avoid driving cars and travel by horseback instead?

ha, i had a bet with a friend that Tom1234 who hasnt commented on this thread for a while would comment on my post within half an hour of me posting. You out did yourself - thanks, you made my day.
no comment on my second post?

marton · #**337** 08.09.2021, 14:55

	Quote:	Svenca
	Since there are so many more deaths and illness due paracetamol than Ivermectin he perhaps thought it might be longer before anyone realises.

Ah but the side effects, I hope things are looking up for you?

Tom1234 · #**338** 08.09.2021, 15:40

	Quote:	Svenca
	ha, i had a bet with a friend that Tom1234 who hasnt commented on this thread for a while would comment on my post within half an hour of me posting. You out did yourself - thanks, you made my day. no comment on my second post?

Is there some rule that I shouldn't comment on your posts?

I lost the bet that I had with my yucca plant that you would mention the words 'ivermectin' and '70%' in your next reply to one of my posts.

Did you know that ivermectin is used for horse parasites but if your horse has a cold (and is sounding a bit horse), you can give it Cough stirrup?

Tom1234 · #**339** 08.09.2021, 15:43

	Quote:	Svenca
	Te FDC states that in order for an EUA to be given for a vaccine there must not be an alternative treatment. Just wondering if this is why people are trying to dismiss ivermectin benefits. https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/new...n-of-vaccines/

No, because (and we've mentioned this before), there is no published clinical trial data which shows a decent efficacy for the treatment of COVID with ivermectin.

A horse walks into to a bar.

"Why the long face?" says the barman.

TonyClifton · #**340** 08.09.2021, 15:56

	Quote:	Tom1234
	No, because (and we've mentioned this before), there is no published clinical trial data which shows a decent efficacy for the treatment of COVID with ivermectin.

You mean like this one?

Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52297521000883

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	During mass IVM treatments in Peru, excess deaths fell by a mean of 74% over 30 days in its ten states with the most extensive treatments. Reductions in deaths correlated with the extent of IVM distributions in all 25 states