Japan's government is one of the most conservative and cautious in the world which is probably why Japan's health ministry's COVID-19 treatment guidelines place ivermectin in a category of drugs whose efficacy and safety have not been established.

This Tokyo Medical Assoc. is a private association funded by donations, not part of the Govt.

This press conference was two weeks ago and there has been no official Govt. support since for this treatment.

You're the boss. You know better than Tokyo Med Ass.

And this is also just insignificant ... (remember people reporting how on the spot where they got the jab there was something strange happening.. but we were laughing at those claims)..

Japan suspended the use of 1.63 million doses of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine after a contaminant believed to be a metallic particle was found in the batch, according to a report from the Japanese Broadcasting Corporation. Japanese health ministry officials found that the particle reacted to magnets, and therefore suspected it to be a metal.

"the particle reacted to magnets and was therefore suspected to be a metal. Moderna has described it as “particulate matter” that did not pose a safety or efficacy issue."

" since Thursday morning to halt the use of the 1.63 million doses of the vaccine produced at the factory."


"Officials say the foreign substances are in the form of particles and believed to be metal as they are attracted to a magnet."

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20210826_24/

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Now the magnetism stuff. This is unbelievable. Let me guess, you came to EF recently because you were kicked out on Twitter.

But question for you: The "metal" in Moderna, is it a bug or a feature?

You claimed the Japanese Government was promoting the use of ivermectin which I demonstrated is completely untrue.

Now you claim I know better than Tokyo Med Ass. which is also completely untrue.

Reuters are covering this story too

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...hk-2021-08-27/

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...vt-2021-08-28/

Sounds like a serious problem and I would expect a "call-back" action like Migros, Coop, Aldi, Lidl [insert food store] have to do all the time, hoping we haven't eaten/shot it in our arms yet.

komsomolez, interesting how defensive you are in your opinion, I can picture you there on the floor like our two year old neighbour.

As long as it's heavy, dark or prog, it' more than fine for me.

PS. I had the Moderna vaccine. I had poor stamina before it after many months of doing no exercise (no gym + ski injury), so any shortness of breath is not caused by it

Apposite as ever.

Thanks marton. Just read the comments. I am guessing you are pointing out all the problems with the experiment and why its not conclusive. I take your point but I dont understand why no one is funding some better test. Oh actually I do know - they cant make any money from it.

Of course they can make money from it. Just look at the history of Soolantra, FPS. It was long off-patent and they still cleaned up.

Hello NotAllThere, can you please explain me the meaning of this comic text.? help me understand it ?

Aside from the fact "they" can, Pharma are not the only people who fund and conduct research

Indeed. In the U.K. at least, a lot of very important medical research is funded by charities.

In pharma, about 90% of the FDA filings historically have been supported by government-funded basic research. It's not just the drug you need to investigate, it's the target.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...led-unethical/

A couple of months ago, I would have posted a Trump comment...

Wow. Just wow.

A judge ordering a med be used is so far beyond the pale that it boggles the mind.

This being the US, one would hope that order comes with a big ol' helping of rock-solid malpractice indemnity for the doctors, medical staff, and hospital. 'Cause you know what will happen next...

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Just as an aside, I've used veterinary Ivermectin for years and respect it's efficacy when prescribed by my vet for use in specific situations, such as heartworm prevention, in specific doses, for individual critters who can tolerate it.

I also have experience of when it should not, and must not, be used, as I have had two, and possibly a third, MDR1-/- dogs, whose genetic defect make the drug toxic. potentially fatal.

Having seen the good and the bad, I would only use it where appropriate, under qualified medical supervision. I cannot fathom experimenting with it on one's own.

And that's for my animals. doG knows an even higher standard should apply to human use.

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Irony of the day:

One of my outlaws back home, a crunchy granola sort, is among those banging the self-treating with Ivermectin drum. Yet this same woman refuses to give her dog the monthly heartworm preventative, because "I'm not putting harmful chemicals in my pup!"

Holy moly...whatever happened to "Do No Harm"????

Calling back a contaminated batch of vaccine is somewhat different from the lunatic magnetism claims that have been around for months now, and which are as serious as the microchip stuff.

And I don't give a s--- what you picture me doing.

It doesn't matter what people make of it, the batch has to be called back, all others controlled and the cause of the contamination be found. Simple.

I didn't expect you to give a shit about me picturing you - I was just mentioning my the amusement.