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LondonKid 18.07.2021 09:38

Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
Hi

I was vaccinated in the U.K. with the Astra Zeneca vaccine and I am now finding I canít get a Swiss Covid-19 vaccine certificate. Appreciate that they are only accepting mRNA vaccines but it gives me a problem.


They also accept EU vaccine certification which includes the AZ vaccine but as we are a non-EU member I canít get one of those either.

This means even though I am fully vaccinated I canít attend events unless I get a Covid test each time.

Any suggestions what I can do without getting another course of vaccines here in Switzerland? Also would it be safe if i did get a further two vaccine shots?

Chuff 18.07.2021 09:43

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by LondonKid (Post 3328994)
Also would it be safe if i did get a further two vaccine shots?

Yes, EF with its full roster of armchair doctors can of course confirm that getting another course of vaccines is perfectly safe. Oh wait, no it can't, ask an actual doctor.

As for the other part, as you said Switzerland only accepts MRNA vaccines, so it's unlikely that they would give you a vaccine certificate for an unrecognised vaccine that does not meet those approval requirements.

Looks like you are caught between a rock and a hard place until/if CH approve the AZ vaccine or you get a dose of MRNA after consulting a doctor to see if it's ok or not.

Medea Fleecestealer 18.07.2021 09:46

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by LondonKid (Post 3328994)
Hi

I was vaccinated in the U.K. with the Astra Zeneca vaccine and I am now finding I canít get a Swiss Covid-19 vaccine certificate. Appreciate that they are only accepting mRNA vaccines but it gives me a problem.


They also accept EU vaccine certification which includes the AZ vaccine but as we are a non-EU member I canít get one of those either.

This means even though I am fully vaccinated I canít attend events unless I get a Covid test each time.

Any suggestions what I can do without getting another course of vaccines here in Switzerland? Also would it be safe if i did get a further two vaccine shots?

If you were vaccinated in the UK can't you get a certificate from there? Via NHS?

Chuff 18.07.2021 09:48

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Medea Fleecestealer (Post 3328996)
If you were vaccinated in the UK can't you get a certificate from there? Via NHS?

UK certificates for unrecognised vaccines would not be valid within Switzerland as exemption from tests.

Belgianmum 18.07.2021 09:52

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3328997)
UK certificates for unrecognised vaccines would not be valid within Switzerland as exemption from tests.

Yet they are perfectly acceptable as a means of avoiding quarantine for uk travellers arriving in Switzerland.
Whereís the logic in that?

LondonKid 18.07.2021 10:02

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Medea Fleecestealer (Post 3328996)
If you were vaccinated in the UK can't you get a certificate from there? Via NHS?

As said above, the NHS certificate is not recognised in Switzerland. An EU one with an Astra Zeneca vaccine is accepted but being an Non-EU member I canít get one of those either

Spaceghost 18.07.2021 12:25

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Medea Fleecestealer (Post 3328996)
If you were vaccinated in the UK can't you get a certificate from there? Via NHS?

Exactly - I have a UK NHS App certificate and no issue whatsoever travelling to Switzerland using that.

I also got it scanned last night in Zurich for access to a club and they scanned the NHS QR code from the app and let me in just fine so I'm not sure who you feel aren't accepting the UK certificate as did my mate also on iPhone. Our other mate though had an Android phone and the NHS app wouldn't scan for the club, so I'm not sure quite why there was a difference as we all had the NHS app.

kri 18.07.2021 14:02

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
Are you a Swiss resident and were you one at the time of vaccine?

LondonKid 18.07.2021 14:30

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Spaceghost (Post 3329016)
Exactly - I have a UK NHS App certificate and no issue whatsoever travelling to Switzerland using that.

I also got it scanned last night in Zurich for access to a club and they scanned the NHS QR code from the app and let me in just fine so I'm not sure who you feel aren't accepting the UK certificate as did my mate also on iPhone. Our other mate though had an Android phone and the NHS app wouldn't scan for the club, so I'm not sure quite why there was a difference as we all had the NHS app.

Thatís great news - I just read online that the NHS app is not accepted in Switzerland

LondonKid 18.07.2021 14:31

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by kri (Post 3329032)
Are you a Swiss resident and were you one at the time of vaccine?

Hi,

Yes I had a Swiss residency permit at the time I received the vaccine (in the U.K.) and I still have a residency permit now

Spaceghost 18.07.2021 15:42

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by LondonKid (Post 3329043)
Thatís great news - I just read online that the NHS app is not accepted in Switzerland

I've flown out twice since the rules changed 3 weeks ago and no issues using the NHS app to fly from UK to Switzerland.

LondonKid 18.07.2021 15:45

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Originally Posted by Spaceghost (Post 3329052)
I've flown out twice since the rules changed 3 weeks ago and no issues using the NHS app to fly from UK to Switzerland.

I think itís fine to fly out of the U.K. with but the problem seems to be using it to enter events whilst In Switzerland

Landers 18.07.2021 19:14

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
I feel very sure I've read personal accounts of people with UK (AZ) vaccinations getting them recognised in Switzerland and receiving a Swiss covid certificate.

I have the opposite problem - getting the UK to recognise my Swiss vaccinations despite having the WHO vaccine booklet and Swiss certificate.

LondonKid 18.07.2021 20:37

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Landers (Post 3329093)
I feel very sure I've read personal accounts of people with UK (AZ) vaccinations getting them recognised in Switzerland and receiving a Swiss covid certificate.

I have the opposite problem - getting the UK to recognise my Swiss vaccinations despite having the WHO vaccine booklet and Swiss certificate.

That rule is just ridiculous! If youíve been vaccinated with an approved vaccine it shouldnít matter what country it was given in

kri 18.07.2021 21:00

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by LondonKid (Post 3329101)
That rule is just ridiculous! If youíve been vaccinated with an approved vaccine it shouldnít matter what country it was given in

Why should it not matter? Switzerland has not approved AZ - they have their own reason. You went ahead and got vaccinated somewhere else where you presumably were not really entitled had you followed procedure. Say you got sick from it, would be your Ch insurance to pay. Not really a fan of people who bend rules then complainsaid bending is causing them trouble :msnsarcastic:

LondonKid 18.07.2021 21:08

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by kri (Post 3329103)
Why should it not matter? Switzerland has not approved AZ - they have their own reason. You went ahead and got vaccinated somewhere else where you presumably were not really entitled had you followed procedure. Say you got sick from it, would be your Ch insurance to pay. Not really a fan of people who bend rules then complainsaid bending is causing them trouble :msnsarcastic:

Switzerland approve the Astra Zeneca vaccine via the European vaccine certificate but not the NHS certificate for the same vaccine.

As for your other comments, I really don’t understand what you’re talking about. No rules were broken at all and I am still a U.K. resident so what is the problem with me getting vaccinated in the U.K.?

marton 18.07.2021 21:21

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The United Kingdom is currently in talks with the EU to link its National Health Serviceís (NHS) COVID app with the EUís framework, though no confirmation of or date for this integration has been set.

If that happens then hopefully your problem will go away.

Anyway, a note to be careful
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Over 70 million doses of vaccine have been administered in the UK, but 5 million of those are the version of AstraZeneca known as Covishield, manufactured by the Serum Institute of India.
Covishield is not yet EU approved so is not accepted for entry to some EU countries but is claimed to be OK for Switzerland. Those affected will have batch numbers 4120Z001, 4120Z002, and 4120Z003 on their patient card and NHS app.

An application has never been made for approval of this vaccine by the EMA.

LondonKid 18.07.2021 21:24

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by marton (Post 3329106)
The United Kingdom is currently in talks with the EU to link its National Health Serviceís (NHS) COVID app with the EUís framework, though no confirmation of or date for this integration has been set.

If that happens then hopefully your problem will go away.

Anyway, a note to be careful

Covishield is not yet EU approved so is not accepted for entry to some EU countries but is claimed to be OK for Switzerland. Those affected will have batch numbers 4120Z001, 4120Z002, and 4120Z003 on their patient card and NHS app.

An application has never been made for approval of this vaccine by the EMA.

Wow, Iíve not seen that and hopefully that will happen so thanks for the info.

As for the Indian manufactured vaccines I did check that when the data was first published and fortunately my doses were not part of those batches.

Landers 18.07.2021 22:03

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by kri (Post 3329103)
Why should it not matter? Switzerland has not approved AZ - they have their own reason. You went ahead and got vaccinated somewhere else where you presumably were not really entitled had you followed procedure. Say you got sick from it, would be your Ch insurance to pay. Not really a fan of people who bend rules then complainsaid bending is causing them trouble :msnsarcastic:

Londonkid was responding to my second statement about UK not (yet) acknowledging vaccinations being given in Switzerland.
In any case, any one in the UK, legally or otherwise, is entitled to receive a vaccination. There could have been some bending involved but we don't know that.
Switzerland accepts any vaccine approved in the EU for the purposes of entry to the country (don't they?), including AZ (excluding that odd batch)

LondonKid 18.07.2021 23:44

Re: Anybody been vaccinated in the U.K. with an AZ vaccine
 
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Originally Posted by Landers (Post 3329114)
Londonkid was responding to my second statement about UK not (yet) acknowledging vaccinations being given in Switzerland.
In any case, any one in the UK, legally or otherwise, is entitled to receive a vaccination. There could have been some bending involved but we don't know that.
Switzerland accepts any vaccine approved in the EU for the purposes of entry to the country (don't they?), including AZ (excluding that odd batch)

If the rule bending was referring to me then that certainly wasnít the case. The message was a little confusing though!


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