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Old 03.08.2021, 07:52
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

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...stress meaning it could be purely stress-related and not the vaccine at all.

The vaccine stresses your immune system, so it can trigger Shingles to come out
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

There is a shingles vaccine, which I’ve had on my diabetaloge’s recommendation.There is a chickenpox vacinne for those that didn’t have it as a child.

My poor single Mother. 3 of us kids ages 10 to 14 who went through the Measles and Mumps plus chickenpox and whooping cough over four summers. Thank god for the vaccines.
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Old 03.08.2021, 08:09
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

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The vaccine stresses your immune system, so it can trigger Shingles to come out
So can Covid even if you don't know that you had it, which would explain the ott reaction of OP's immune system after the 1st vax dose already. I second otec's suggestion to see an immunologist or another specialist.
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Old 03.08.2021, 11:04
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

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I would say it's definitely related to the vaccine and encourage you to report it as so. All side effects should be reported.
https://www.swissmedic.ch/swissmedic...-update-3.html
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Please make sure that your physician or any medical professional reports it also through the established channels -- the reporting data of a medical doctor, and that of a private individual reach different places, and they are treated and used differently.

If professionals do not report today the events, dismissing it as 'of no importance', it will be impossible tomorrow (tomorrow might take 10 years or more) to generate any data on potential causation on subsegment of populations, and prevent usage when there are comorbidities that would increase the risk of usage of the product or therapy. -- see Benfluorex, Rofecoxib, or the well known Thalidomide - today used, but under restricted conditions, as consumption of any chemical is not naïf.

Three friends of mine - very healthy otherwise, passed out in public places after the 2nd vaccination. Two of them are still on sick leave with neurologic complications of strange onset.

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Old 03.08.2021, 11:13
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

Interesting Izzt89, I also know someone who passed out the next day after the second vaccine. Very fit too. Was dizzy for 1 week. No other known issues since.

I will ask him to report too.
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

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If they've had chickenpox before then they're immune. Hence shingles. Unless you had it very young, I believe, like less than a year old, then you can get chicken pox twice.

Source: my GP when chicken pox was rife in my workplace when I was preggers.
Yes the immune system should prevent the virus from taking hold. However, there are other reasons some people get chickenpox more than once?
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

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Yes the immune system should prevent the virus from taking hold. However, there are other reasons some people get chickenpox more than once?
Are there? Like what?
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There is a shingles vaccine, which I’ve had on my diabetaloge’s recommendation.
Is the shingles vaxx available in Switzerland?

I asked my GP about it just last week, but was told that it's not available.

(Wouldn't be the first time the GP was wrong...)
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Old 03.08.2021, 12:47
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Please make sure that your physician or any medical professional reports it also through the established channels -- the reporting data of a medical doctor, and that of a private individual reach different places, and they are treated and used differently.

If professionals do not report today the events, dismissing it as 'of no importance', it will be impossible tomorrow (tomorrow might take 10 years or more) to generate any data on potential causation on subsegment of populations, and prevent usage when there are comorbidities that would increase the risk of usage of the product or therapy. -- see Benfluorex, Rofecoxib, or the well known Thalidomide - today used, but under restricted conditions, as consumption of any chemical is not naïf.

Three friends of mine - very healthy otherwise, passed out in public places after the 2nd vaccination. Two of them are still on sick leave with neurologic complications of strange onset.

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It is absolutely required for medical professionals to report temporally linked conditions. They are well aware that they cannot excise their own judgement on this.
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Is the shingles vaxx available in Switzerland?

I asked my GP about it just last week, but was told that it's not available.

(Wouldn't be the first time the GP was wrong...)
Well, i had one a couple years back in Geneva. Shingles is Zona in french.
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

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Is the shingles vaxx available in Switzerland?

I asked my GP about it just last week, but was told that it's not available.

(Wouldn't be the first time the GP was wrong...)
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Occurrence and frequency

Varicella zoster viruses occur throughout the world.

Chickenpox occurs year-round in Switzerland. Practically the entire adult population (98 %) has antibodies to the virus, i.e. most people had chickenpox during their childhood.

Of those who do not catch chickenpox until they are 16 or older, every year, approx. 50 need to be hospitalised for complications, and roughly 20 in every 100,000 of the over-16s die of the disease, i.e. approx. 10 to 20 times more commonly than in children.

About 20 % of people who are infected with VZV, will eventually develop shingles later in life.

Prevention

Due to the elevated risk of complications in adults, VZV infection should be prevented in anyone who did not have chickenpox as a child. Vaccination against chickenpox (varicella) is therefore recommended for all adolescents between 11 and 15 years of age who are not immune (catch-up vaccination for adults up to the age of 39). Vaccination requires two doses at least four weeks apart. IgG antibodies can be determined to establish a person’s immune status if it is uncertain whether they have already had a VZV infection and chickenpox.

Immunisation against herpes zoster (shingles) with the vaccine Zostavax® is recommended in Switzerland since the end of 2017 for persons aged 65 to 79 years and for patients aged 50 to 79 years who will be immunocompromised in the near future. However, it is currently not reimbursed by mandatory basic health insurance.
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

Funny, my insurance paid. It was included with my Dr’s bill so maybe they missed it.
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Re: Shingles after 1st dose of Covid Vaccine

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Is the shingles vaxx available in Switzerland?

I asked my GP about it just last week, but was told that it's not available.

(Wouldn't be the first time the GP was wrong...)
The one shot vax is available here. The shingrix (two shot) as far as I know, not yet, but I have heard from others that they‘ve sourced it from outside CH and had their docs administer it. From what I understand from my friends in the US, shingrix is more effective. My GP was not enthused about offering me the single shot one, and I meant to ask my oncologist at my yearly visit. Totally forgot. If I’m going to get one, I prefer the shingrix.
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