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Agreed, but this delta variant is hitting the little ones hard.

How close are we considering the vax for children under 12?
I don't really see much data showing delta is significantly different from other strains in terms of its age profile (other than the obvious of being more infectious).
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Old 17.08.2021, 11:08
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It's worth remembering that Switzerland is vaccinating the 750,000 who caught Covid only once. Are they counted as fully vaccinated?
According to the certificates issued, yes.

But only if the vaccination is within 6 months of recovery / infection / positive test date (*).

*) there seems to be some ambiguity on which date counts.
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Is it? Thats news to me but i didn't check any new data in the lasts weeks. Can you refer me to a source?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/h...ren-delta.html

I don't think this is scare mongering, rather a call for all in contact with children to get vaccinated if possible.
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Is it? Thats news to me but i didn't check any new data in the lasts weeks. Can you refer me to a source?
Sure ... here you go:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special...clusives/93979

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ildren/619712/

It is hitting them harder because it is highly infectious ...
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Old 17.08.2021, 11:22
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But only if the vaccination is within 6 months of recovery / infection / positive test date (*).
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Was the infection more than six months ago? Then the vaccination should take place as soon as possible. Even in this situation, you only need one dose for a full vaccination.
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...nice to know that some in Switzerland want to keep kids safe as much as possible....
I think you'll find that we all do. But most people posting here think that's to be achieved in far better ways than you are proposing. And indeed that your proposals are positively harmful.

Anyway, you've found Susie-Q now, so you've someone to agree with. Which is what you wanted.
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I think you'll find that we all do. But most people posting here think that's to be achieved in far better ways than you are proposing. And indeed that your proposals are positively harmful.

Anyway, you've found Susie-Q now, so you've someone to agree with. Which is what you wanted.
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I think kids should be in schools ... I just think they should try their best to protect them as much as possible instead of a free for all & I sympathize with anyone who is concerned.
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I think you'll find that we all do. But most people posting here think that's to be achieved in far better ways than you are proposing. And indeed that your proposals are positively harmful.

Anyway, you've found Susie-Q now, so you've someone to agree with. Which is what you wanted.
Argh I wasn't going to bother but that quote is so out of context. That was referring to an article where parents were asking for better safety measures in schools. If you don't agree with that then I don't know what to tell you. I never proposed that anybody else did anything differently - I just said what I was doing and nobody liked it

Today's data shows we have the same case numbers and hospitalisations as mid October last year, I'm allowed to be concerned and I'm still surprised more people here aren't.
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I just said what I was doing and nobody liked it
I personally did not really care what you are doing, what I did not like is you asking an opinion and then telling you know your decision is correct and a few other sentences that show that you are here to tell us your decision is best. That I don't like. The way you parent is your own and you can do whatever suits you.
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Today's data shows we have the same case numbers and hospitalisations as mid October last year, I'm allowed to be concerned and I'm still surprised more people here aren't.
I think we should only be worried if the deaths increase as well. The infections will go up because the Delta strain is more contagious, but it is not more deadly.
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I personally did not really care what you are doing, what I did not like is you asking an opinion and then telling you know your decision is correct and a few other sentences that show that you are here to tell us your decision is best. That I don't like. The way you parent is your own and you can do whatever suits you.
Re-read the thread with a clear head, I never told you my decision was best. It is my choice and I only explained why I made that decision. After a few of you explained your decisions.
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I think we should only be worried if the deaths increase as well. The infections will go up because the Delta strain is more contagious, but it is not more deadly.
Fair enough, yes.

I'm not always convinced, though, that deaths are the main important measure.

We already see that some people, both low-symptom or very ill, recover (in the sense that they don't die) but develop more or less intense long-covid, some with mild but lingering health issues, others with seriously debilitating ongoing illness. It's not yet known why some fully recover from their covid illness and feel as well as they were before, and others can't shake off some of the symptoms, despite their best efforts at health management.

Time will tell whether people who have had covid, whether they were asymptomatic, mildly ill or very ill, have thereby developed a propensity to any further illness or complication, later in their lives. We don't know that, yet.
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Fair enough, yes.

I'm not always convinced, though, that deaths are the main important measure.

We already see that some people, both low-symptom or very ill, recover (in the sense that they don't die) but develop more or less intense long-covid, some with mild but lingering health issues, others with seriously debilitating ongoing illness. It's not yet known why some fully recover from their covid illness and feel as well as they were before, and others can't shake off some of the symptoms, despite their best efforts at health management.

Time will tell whether people who have had covid, whether they were asymptomatic, mildly ill or very ill, have thereby developed a propensity to any further illness or complication, later in their lives. We don't know that, yet.
I agree with what you have written. They are reasonable concerns, which I also share.

By the same token, time will also tell if there are any long term negative side effects from the Covid vaccine.

But so long as people are not dying from Covid in the same numbers as last year, I think it is fair to ease up on restrictions and take some measured risks.
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