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Covid concerns for preschoolers

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I have a 3 year old who I am continuing to keep at home or outdoors because of covid. Every other family I know/know of in Switzerland with a preschooler is sending them to kita/spielgruppe. No one else I know has any concern at all about their children catching covid, despite no masks, ventilation etc. It feels like a different world compared to other countries like the US & Canada where there are lots of kids starting virtual school again this year.

Are there any other parents who are keeping their kids out of indoor activities during the pandemic? I'd like to hear of at least one parent here who has concerns so I feel less crazy...
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Hi everyone,

I have a 3 year old who I am continuing to keep at home or outdoors because of covid. Every other family I know/know of in Switzerland with a preschooler is sending them to kita/spielgruppe. No one else I know has any concern at all about their children catching covid, despite no masks, ventilation etc. It feels like a different world compared to other countries like the US & Canada where there are lots of kids starting virtual school again this year.

Are there any other parents who are keeping their kids out of indoor activities during the pandemic? I'd like to hear of at least one parent here who has concerns so I feel less crazy...
My kids are older but throughout this I was super happy schools did not close here. They do weekly mass tests and there has been very little issues with only a few cases here and there. Even if we weren't working I would not take that away from them, especially now when hopefully a lot of the adults around them are vaccinated.
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Hi everyone,

I have a 3 year old who I am continuing to keep at home or outdoors because of covid. Every other family I know/know of in Switzerland with a preschooler is sending them to kita/spielgruppe. No one else I know has any concern at all about their children catching covid, despite no masks, ventilation etc. It feels like a different world compared to other countries like the US & Canada where there are lots of kids starting virtual school again this year.

Are there any other parents who are keeping their kids out of indoor activities during the pandemic? I'd like to hear of at least one parent here who has concerns so I feel less crazy...
Teacake, I can only speak as a mother whose daughter works at a KITA. The employees are all masked and they are very careful about the spread of Covid. Of course, nothing is perfect but neither is hiding your child from other children.

The US is sending their kids back to school as well; although there are some parents who still want to keep them at home. Unless your child is at high risk for infections, it's important for your child's development to be in contact with other children. Part of being a parent is knowing when to let go, when to trust the child and when to trust others. It's not always easy but you won't be able to keep your child completely away from harm.

Good luck.

Edit: I thanked your post because it takes courage to reach out in your position. Please read the posts and find the courage to what you think is best for your child.
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Re: Covid concerns for preschoolers

I think it has been magnificent, and a triumph here. All credit to the teachers, cleaners, and everyone working behind-the-scenes at schools, as well as any parents doing their bit. There's no escaping the fact the kids are far better off in school, as it pertains to their psychological health, safety, and education,
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Maybe this would help. Just 2 out of 10'923 deaths in Switzerland have been aged 0-9 A death rate of 0.0002%, hospitalisation 0.046% of the total 0-9 year old population of around 900'000 in the country.

For a standard 'flu season, the expected is 0.001% deaths and 0.4% hospitalisation.

Not much help if your kid is one of those, but comparing risks there's no more risk than usual. Since staff are sanitising and wearing masks, the risk is probably lower during the pandemic. Be brave.
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Re: Covid concerns for preschoolers

Thanks all for your replies. I’m not really looking for advice that I should be sending her into indoor groups, I’ve done enough reading on the concerns of US paediatricians dealing with the delta variant at the moment and also research on the long term effects on kids, and I’m happy with my choice right now. I’ve never been worried about death/hospitalisation, more the long term effects I have read about. Also, just to make it clear, I’m not locking her up inside, we do outdoor activities and play dates and I think she will be ok psychologically.

I really just wanted to know if there’s anyone in Switzerland that feels the same way as me!
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I really just wanted to know if there’s anyone in Switzerland that feels the same way as me!
Doesn't seem like it.

However, my three year old grandson is joining a waldgruppe which is outdoors not suitable for you, but this one is local to me. https://www.waldkinderbasel.ch/waldspielgruppe/ . Maybe something like that would be an option.
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Thanks all for your replies. I’m not really looking for advice that I should be sending her into indoor groups, I’ve done enough reading on the concerns of US paediatricians dealing with the delta variant at the moment and also research on the long term effects on kids, and I’m happy with my choice right now. I’ve never been worried about death/hospitalisation, more the long term effects I have read about. Also, just to make it clear, I’m not locking her up inside, we do outdoor activities and play dates and I think she will be ok psychologically.

I really just wanted to know if there’s anyone in Switzerland that feels the same way as me!
You asked of opinions, got opinions and did not like them and now chose to tell us how your view is better because you read it all..ok. your view is betterm not many others doing it. You wanted one person to confirm you approach is good so that you are not crazy. Has not happened. But you know better cause you read it all. Ok then - what is your expectation of this "exchange" or are you trying to tell us all your are smarter than us?
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I really just wanted to know if there’s anyone in Switzerland that feels the same way as me!
Don't know anyone like that in Switzerland.

My nephew in my home country was on home schooling the whole last year and probably will be in the coming year as well. He has asthma and often missed school in the previous school years due to illnesses which sometimes led to hospitalisations so he's used to long absence at school. Also his baby brother was born in 2020 and they all live with grandmother who helps to take care of kids.

All parents who I know in Switzerland (including myself) are very happy that schools/KiGa/daycare are open.
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Thanks all for your replies. Iím not really looking for advice that I should be sending her into indoor groups, Iíve done enough reading on the concerns of US paediatricians dealing with the delta variant at the moment and also research on the long term effects on kids, and Iím happy with my choice right now. Iíve never been worried about death/hospitalisation, more the long term effects I have read about. Also, just to make it clear, Iím not locking her up inside, we do outdoor activities and play dates and I think she will be ok psychologically.

I really just wanted to know if thereís anyone in Switzerland that feels the same way as me!
So what you came for is a thread full of one-word replies
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Then what? You would have posted: Okay, everyone who posted no please ignore the thead, we wanna be amongst us.

That's not how EF works.

Doesn't FB do these group things?
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Probably, but in this country people are generally are not too hysterical.
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Are there any other parents who are keeping their kids out of indoor activities during the pandemic? I'd like to hear of at least one parent here who has concerns so I feel less crazy...
Firstly 'kri' see above, I asked if anyone felt the same way, I didn't ask for opinions. I respect everyone's opinions on this matter. I think we can agree the pandemic has created a lot of opinions - masks/no masks, ant-vaxx/vaxx. I have strong opinions on those too but certainly don't want to debate them! And yes I have read a lot, sorry

Secondly 'curley', I was just asking if anyone felt the same as me. That kind of question not welcome on EF? Strange. First and last post I guess.
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Probably, but in this country people are generally are not too hysterical.
What else to expect from the parents who let their kids walk to KiGa alone from the age of 4.
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Re: Covid concerns for preschoolers

It's so easy to be cynical and attack new posters for asking questions or having views that are out of the box. I, myself, have also been guilty of this.

The virus isn't going away and there will be a time when you need to send your child to school. You're lucky you can wait a year or two until that happens.

Good luck and hopefully some other anxious mothers will pm you with similar views so that you can get through this thing together.
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Re: Covid concerns for preschoolers

I have a friend whose daughter runs a Kinderkrippe. She said that during the first shock of Covid, many parents took their children out of the Krippe and kept them at home. At that stage, for a short while, it did look as if the wave would crash over us, from Italy, and many would die. Later, many parents brought their children back, or at least until they were set up properly for Work From Home. In the meantime, she says, the attendance is more or less the same as before we'd ever heard of Corona.

At least to start with, much of the info on Covid focussed on death. since there's been more of a shift towards studying possible long-term effects of a Covid infection, I do know one set of parents who considered switching to home-schooling, but their children in primary school and gymnasium have made it clear that they want to attend school, so for now they're leaving everything as it was.

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That kind of question is perfectly fine. And some people did answer you, that they themselves don't feel the same as you, or that they don't know anyone who does.

The thing is, on this forum as on many others, the topics tend to wander. Some people added explanations of why they think or feel as they do, of what they have thought to get to their position. And some people just post random other content. It happens.

I was relieved to hear that your child does see other small children, as that's important.
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Thanks all for your replies. I’m not really looking for advice that I should be sending her into indoor groups, I’ve done enough reading on the concerns of US paediatricians dealing with the delta variant at the moment and also research on the long term effects on kids, and I’m happy with my choice right now. I’ve never been worried about death/hospitalisation, more the long term effects I have read about. Also, just to make it clear, I’m not locking her up inside, we do outdoor activities and play dates and I think she will be ok psychologically.

I really just wanted to know if there’s anyone in Switzerland that feels the same way as me!
My daughter is about to turn 2. We send her to Kita daily. I doubt they'll vaccinate children that young, and they'll all catch it sooner or later. Probably us vaccinated adults will too.

What's your plan for when she's got to go to school and Covid is still around?
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It's so easy to be cynical and attack new posters for asking questions or having views that are out of the box. I, myself, have also been guilty of this.

The virus isn't going away and there will be a time when you need to send your child to school. You're lucky you can wait a year or two until that happens.

Good luck and hopefully some other anxious mothers will pm you with similar views so that you can get through this thing together.
Attacked? LOL.
post 1 was a question. Post 6 was telling us that none of us has given the demanded answer and OP is not interested in what people had to say about the subject.
The rest of the thread is basically reactions to post 6 as EFers traditionally refuse to be told what to reply.
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Attacked? LOL.
post 1 was a question. Post 6 was telling us that none of us has given the demanded answer and OP is not interested in what people had to say about the subject.
The rest of the thread is basically reactions to post 6 as EFers traditionally refuse to be told what to reply.
This reply is to Curley and those groaners, who obviously aren’t mothers nor have small children.

This is a new poster who’s scared for her kid. Have a heart. This isn’t the Coronavirus thread, where groans are a dime a dozen. It’s a call from a newbie, a real person, looking for help. You certainly don’t have to agree with the OP’s views but just remember we’re dealing with a mother who is anxious for her child.

Let’s keep EF a welcoming place for our newcomers; a reason why this forum was created in the first place.
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Iíve done enough reading on the concerns of US paediatricians dealing with the delta variant at the moment and also research on the long term effects on kids, and Iím happy with my choice right now. Iíve never been worried about death/hospitalisation, more the long term effects I have read about.
Hi Teacake. While personally I would make a different decision than yours, (the benefits of Kita outweigh the Covid risks to a child), I understand where you are coming from in wanting to protect your kid by keeping him/her at home another year. You are the parent and you get to make the decision.

However, you might want to start preparing yourself for the eventuality that will happen one of these days. Your child will soon have to spend time indoors with groups of other children, even while Covid is still a daily reality. Instead of pushing that decision down the road in the hopes that the situation becomes less scary someday, maybe you would feel less anxious about these seemingly big decisions by breaking it down into smaller, more practical questions? Ask yourself under what Covid conditions would you allow your child to go to Kita indoors? What incidence of Covid in the adult population would be acceptable? What about for young children? What about variants? What percentage of the general population would need to be double vaccinated? What about mitigation measures like weekly testing and widespread use of sanitation protocols? Thinking it through this way forces you to slow down your thinking and really define what you mean by 'acceptable'.

If you think through an acceptable scenario now with which you think you should be comfortable as a theoretical exercise, it will make the actual decision at a later date easier as you will have already been able to think it through before the fear and anxiety creep in. Again, your anxious feelings are yours and perfectly understandable, but the above strategy may help you find a way out of that anxiety, as sooner or later we all have to find a way to get back to life. Hope this helps.
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This reply is to Curley and those groaners, who obviously arenít mothers nor have small children.

This is a new poster whoís scared for her kid. Have a heart. This isnít the Coronavirus thread, where groans are a dime a dozen. Itís a call from a newbie, a real person, looking for help. You certainly donít have to agree with the OPís views but just remember weíre dealing with a mother who is anxious for her child.

Letís keep EF a welcoming place for our newcomers; a reason why this forum was created in the first place.
I did not groan.
I wrote two very factual posts.
Don't patronize me.
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