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Old 23.08.2021, 21:26
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...ys-2021-08-18/

Third Pfizer dose 86% effective over 60s, according to an Israeli study.
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Our elderly neighbour had her first 2 jabs in March and April. After an mediocre antibody test result, she had a 3rd in May. She's already booked in for a booster next month with another antibody test in early October. All of this was arranged through her own GP.
That's interesting, because Swiss health authorities said on several recent press conferences that the 3rd dose is not yet approved by the regulator in Switzerland.

Does anyone know the correct name and brand of the test to be done in this case? I want my OH to check antibodies to decide on potential booster dose before October school holidays as he's in the risk group and was vaccinated relatively early and had no reaction after any of the two doses of Pfizer (I wonder maybe he needs to get a stronger vaccine aka Moderna this time?). I'm not sure whether our GP knows all these details about antibodies to S- and N-proteins.
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That's interesting, because Swiss health authorities said on several recent press conferences that the 3rd dose is not yet approved by the regulator in Switzerland.

Does anyone know the correct name and brand of the test to be done in this case? I want my OH to check antibodies to decide on potential booster dose before October school holidays as he's in the risk group and was vaccinated relatively early and had no reaction after any of the two doses of Pfizer (I wonder maybe he needs to get a stronger vaccine aka Moderna this time?). I'm not sure whether our GP knows all these details about antibodies to S- and N-proteins.
Its an antibody test (Antikörper-Bestimmung) done by your GP. The lab results are quite clear so no worries.

In my case the cost (80 CHF) was not covered by my insurance, it might be different for your OH beeing in a risk group.

Some cantons have started to give booster shots to at high risk persons.
https://www.bluewin.ch/de/news/schwe...ng-837860.html

Edit - Should have added that it is a blood test.

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Old 25.08.2021, 09:32
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Its an antibody test (Antikörper-Bestimmung) done by your GP. The lab results are quite clear so no worries.
Well, not all antibodies tests are the same. The test for N-protein antibodies is useless for vaccinated with mRNA vaccines, as they only generate antibodies to S-proteins.
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Old 25.08.2021, 09:50
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

There are just no circumstance under which I can imagine getting a third jab. I took the vaccine despite my feeling it wasn't necessary due to my risk profile as well as my concerns over the speed of development and lack of any long term data. I did this as I felt I would be doing my part in order to help everything return to normal. Now though, 8 months into the vaccine rollout and we're still nowhere near normal.

And it's going to stay this way until our useless governments realise and admit that there will NEVER be a level of vaccination, even with "boosters", that eliminate Covid.

They can shove their boosters
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Old 25.08.2021, 09:56
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There are just no circumstance under which I can imagine getting a third jab. I took the vaccine despite my feeling it wasn't necessary due to my risk profile as well as my concerns over the speed of development and lack of any long term data. I did this as I felt I would be doing my part in order to help everything return to normal. Now though, 8 months into the vaccine rollout and we're still nowhere near normal.

And it's going to stay this way until our useless governments realise and admit that there will NEVER be a level of vaccination, even with "boosters", that eliminate Covid.

They can shove their boosters
Doctors are already adjusting, not waiting for any big and official statements or oders. It did not surprise me to get an email from mine saying no 3rd shot for now, no known benefits.

So. There we go.

It may be beneficial for anxious people to get a booster, for their mental health, imho.
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Old 25.08.2021, 10:00
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

I'm going to get antibody testing and make a decision based on potential waning immunity, else I will not go for a 'booster'

On a side note, HCWs are seeing an up tick in COVID cases in VD
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Old 25.08.2021, 10:02
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I'm going to get antibody testing..
I did mine and it's 50fr out of pocket. It feels like it's not worth it considering one should do it at a reasonable frequence. Teachers especially

It feels like people make their decision on vaxing based on finances, and it shouldn't be the case. If I vax the 3rd time, it will be cash saved. I vaxed fully, can't even get a free antigen test any longer. And I am working with hundreds of people so the exposure is huge.

I am surprised at trade unions not nagging.
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That's just not true. Vaccine manufacturing is very profitable.
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/ab...thaff.24.3.622

My own company has exited the market since that article
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I'm going to get antibody testing and make a decision based on potential waning immunity, else I will not go for a 'booster'

On a side note, HCWs are seeing an up tick in COVID cases in VD
Whilst I am sympathetic of your thought process - The problem may be expiry of your vaccine passport.
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Old 25.08.2021, 10:26
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My own company has exited the market since that article
TBF, Covid has been a game changer.
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Old 25.08.2021, 10:37
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

This time last year, pandemic at its highest.. no vaccines, nothing..You could sit down and have a lunch and a cup of tea .. year later,

Just about to get a 3rd booster jab, QR code, anti-gen,mask on, police checking on you while you eat that sandwich

and if you're in Victoria your PM tells you how you can not remove your mask outdoors when you drink your beer

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TBF, Covid has been a game changer.
This one vaccine may be profitable at present. But it'll become a commodity as everyone makes their own in time.
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Old 25.08.2021, 10:58
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This one vaccine may be profitable at present. But it'll become a commodity as everyone makes their own in time.
Which is why all the Covid vaccine developers (apart from AZ) are making hay now. Which unfortunately has the side effect of driving more people towards big pharma conspiracy theories. The necessity for a booster, so soon after the original vaccination will only add fuel to these.
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Well, not all antibodies tests are the same. The test for N-protein antibodies is useless for vaccinated with mRNA vaccines, as they only generate antibodies to S-proteins.
Switzerland only uses mRNA vaccines, unless vaccinated in another country with ex AZ there shouldnt be a problem (you mentioned your OH recieved Pfizer).

If you are worried that your GP wont know /understand about the correct test, an option is to go directly to ex Unilabs.
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There are just no circumstance under which I can imagine getting a third jab. I took the vaccine despite my feeling it wasn't necessary due to my risk profile as well as my concerns over the speed of development and lack of any long term data. I did this as I felt I would be doing my part in order to help everything return to normal. Now though, 8 months into the vaccine rollout and we're still nowhere near normal.

And it's going to stay this way until our useless governments realise and admit that there will NEVER be a level of vaccination, even with "boosters", that eliminate Covid.

They can shove their boosters
I sort of agree. Being in a high risk category, I felt I had no choice but to receive the vaccine (with ongoing side effects too, thank you very much). I can understand the rational for people at high risk to get a booster. But honestly, for how long will this nightmare go on?

For most vaccines, especially the ones you get as a child, you don't need a booster for about 10 years. For Covid, it is only 6 months???
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Well, not all antibodies tests are the same. The test for N-protein antibodies is useless for vaccinated with mRNA vaccines, as they only generate antibodies to S-proteins.
Anti-body test can't disprove immunity. After an infection the ant-bodies will slowly disappear from your blood as they are not needed anymore. However your immune system will remain the knowledge and be able to quickly re-produce the anti-bodies in the case of reinfection.
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Will report back in late September. I am one of the early vaccinated people being monitored for antibody levels over time for research purposes and I'll have my six-month post-vaccination antibody results in about a month. Have been tested at regular intervals since March, and they let me know what my antibody levels are after each blood draw.
Just received some serology results this afternoon. Had my second jab in March, and in April my anti-SARS-CoV2 IgG ratio was 127 (which is apparently quite high). By late June this value had dropped to 80.4. I don't have today's results yet but the nurse informed me that in November I might get a booster as I'm still on the active cancer patient list and they want to keep my antibody levels up.
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Old 29.09.2021, 16:38
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

I read that in the UK „booster shot“ is spelled „borchestershire shot“…
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