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Old 20.08.2021, 20:02
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Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

I'm coming up to 6 months since my second, Moderna, shot.

There are some reports that some very 'at risk' people have had a third shot in Basel Stadt. And Moderna are reporting that a third shot might be a good idea.

I'm not particularly worried (but then again I was expecting 80% of the population would now be double vaccinated instead of 50%) but curious to know if some cantons are, again, going to go their own way with a 3rd shot strategy.

https://www.20min.ch/story/jetzt-geh...n-525218203287

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/05/mode...nst-delta.html

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...EU~USA~POL~PRT
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

I can't find anything online about the booster shot in Kanton Luzern, but I will ask my doctor when I have a routine check in two weeks time. Being Switzerland, it is almost certainly going to be different in each Kanton.
The only up-side of the low vaccination rate here is that there should be plenty of shots available.
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Old 21.08.2021, 13:54
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

So the 'third shot' is a thing already?

I don't read much news past the headlines but I thought it was just a maybe so far? Maybe we'll get a third shot?

I'll get it I suppose, so that I can go to concerts etc.. hey ho.
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So the 'third shot' is a thing already?

I don't read much news past the headlines but I thought it was just a maybe so far? Maybe we'll get a third shot?

I'll get it I suppose, so that I can go to concerts etc.. hey ho.
Yes - here the latest. Think that the link doesnít have a pay-wall, not sure:

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/die-fra...n-625130282842
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

We would get much better value for money by ensuring everyone, whereever they may live, have access to the vaccine.
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Old 22.08.2021, 10:02
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We would get much better value for money by ensuring everyone, whereever they may live, have access to the vaccine.
Absolutely, morally and financially; but we in the first world are soon going to be offered a booster. Should I take it?

I know that companies are going to earn much more from boosters than supplying the rest of the world, but do I achieve anything by turning it down?

Without the capitalist system the newer technology vaccines would never have been developed, so what is wrong with the profit?
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Old 22.08.2021, 10:43
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

Well I suspect Big Pharma fully understands that the most money will be made by ensuring the virus continues to mutate which will require them to develop new vaccines to save us all. Well all of us that can pay.

There may be a small category of people who might require a booster but their best protection is to get society to herd immunity, Much more effective than a booster.
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Well I suspect Big Pharma fully understands that the most money will be made by ensuring the virus continues to mutate which will require them to develop new vaccines to save us all. Well all of us that can pay.

There may be a small category of people who might require a booster but their best protection is to get society to herd immunity, Much more effective than a booster.
No such thing as herd immunity from delta. Vaccines aren't good enough. Agree with your conclusion that it's better to donate in most cases.

Big pharma has very limited interest in vaccines. Not very profitable.
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Old 22.08.2021, 11:32
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Well I suspect Big Pharma fully understands that the most money will be made by ensuring the virus continues to mutate which will require them to develop new vaccines to save us all. Well all of us that can pay.

There may be a small category of people who might require a booster but their best protection is to get society to herd immunity, Much more effective than a booster.
The only way to get anywhere near herd immunity is going to be with boosters. I am going to vote with my arm.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021...t-defeat-delta
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Old 22.08.2021, 11:36
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

Iíd like to see our herd get up to 80% or so first. And if that means limiting access to night clubs, bars, restaurants, public transport, shops, sports, etc, so be it.
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Old 22.08.2021, 11:40
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Iíd like to see our herd get up to 80% or so first. And if that means limiting access to night clubs, bars, restaurants, public transport, shops, sports, etc, so be it.
Delta will get us to herd immunity. If people haven't been vaccinated by now, they won't get vaccinated in any great numbers going forward.

Live and Let Die.
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Old 22.08.2021, 12:07
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Delta will get us to herd immunity. If people haven't been vaccinated by now, they won't get vaccinated in any great numbers going forward.

Live and Let Die.
I disagree, there are still quite a few in the wait and see; only if I have to categories. One last hard push is necessary.

Look at France, laggards until certificates became necessary for normal life, now they are top of the heap.
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Old 22.08.2021, 12:18
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Re: Had a third 'booster' jab yet ?

Its spinning off into the 'Covid Cert' thread.. but I agree.. you can choose not to jab, but if so, you can't choose to come close to the jabbed. Exactly the same argument as smoking cigs.
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No way Iíll be getting a third shot. Not after what I went through after my 2nd. Was far worse than when actually had covid.

Iíve done my civic duty to save the old folks in care homes. EnoughÖ. Letís move on.
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Old 22.08.2021, 13:47
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No way Iíll be getting a third shot. Not after what I went through after my 2nd. Was far worse than when actually had covid.

Iíve done my civic duty to save the old folks in care homes. EnoughÖ. Letís move on.
I think plenty of people will share your sentiments.

I also honestly think that this split between vaxin or not is not really a big thing in CH. Most people will get to it, in my opinion. The few left will not be coerced. I only wonder why media exploit it and scandalize - when things seem calm. There is capacity, there are available doses, we already know by now who is at the biggest risk and in my experience people really manage their own risk well, no excesses or extremes.

So - I also do not see an extreme necessity for a jab no. 3, especially...Well, I won't talk about Pfizer boobs.
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I don't think that getting a booster shot will be mandatory. But as someone who is high-risk, I'll be more than happy to get one when the time comes. Also happy that my elderly parents will be getting one at some point.
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Did they get harder?
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No way Iíll be getting a third shot. Not after what I went through after my 2nd. Was far worse than when actually had covid.

Iíve done my civic duty to save the old folks in care homes. EnoughÖ. Letís move on.
I'm afraid that your sacrifice was for nothing. The protection from the vaccine was overstated a lot. For Israel it went down from 95% to 75% to 64% to 39% according to CNBC. Still dropping. If CNBC says 39% I guess it is actually much lower maybe under 20%, after a few months it's probably <10%. At which point you would be better getting salted water.

That you stop transmitting the disease if you are vaccinated seems to be another urban myth.
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I'm afraid that your sacrifice was for nothing. The protection from the vaccine was overstated a lot. For Israel it went down from 95% to 75% to 64% to 39% according to CNBC. Still dropping. If CNBC says 39% I guess it is actually much lower maybe under 20%, after a few months it's probably <10%. At which point you would be better getting salted water.

That you stop transmitting the disease if you are vaccinated seems to be another urban myth.
Perhaps. But salted water doesnít ease travel and indoor dining etc. The magic QR code does.
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Old 22.08.2021, 16:12
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That you stop transmitting the disease if you are vaccinated seems to be another urban myth.
Actually what you've written is the urban myth.

If you are vaccinated you are less likely to get COVID but if you do, it's quite likely to be asymptomatic which means you won't be coughing and spluttering over anyone else.
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