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what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

Hi Gurus, as stated in the OP, in your opinion what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income? I got a calculation done by the "Amt für Jugend und Berufsberatung" office and it adds up to 26% of the net income, which is a lot in my opinion. They also have a super complicated non-intuitive method to come up with those figures. The method basically ignores completely all expenses incurred by the father.

I'm very happy to see the money well spent in the well being and education of the child but not overpaying to finance the lavish lifestyle of the mother. That's the main trade off. Separately the more they shrink the father's disposable income the less opportunity the father has to do things with the child which may explain why a lot of separated fathers don't do a lot with the children (they were depleted of resources).



Also if the father takes the child for holidays 3 weeks in a given month, why should he be forced to pay a full child support bill that month? it is IMO nonsense.
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Separately the more they shrink the father's disposable income the less opportunity the father has to do things with the child which may explain why a lot of separated fathers don't do a lot with the children (they were depleted of resources).
There’s plenty of ways to spend time with the kids with limited resources.
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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

Be grateful you’re not Britney Spears. She has to pay $20,000 a month in child support. (Useful facts you read in the news).
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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

Dear OP,
I can understand your feeling nevertheless perhaps you could also see it frim the point of view if the child’s well-being?
If the mother has custody and she doesn’t have enough to maintain herself and the child, she’ll be obliged to work more (while being a full time parent). Thus this will take away parenting time and availability from the child.
If she doesn’t have to worry and count pennies the/your/her child will be better off.

Society pushes the mother to be quickly and fully independent once they become a single parent. Sometimes this is way too early for her child/children.

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Hi Gurus, as stated in the OP, in your opinion what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income.
Your post is the OP so who the hell are you replying to in what thread?
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Old 03.10.2021, 18:16
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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

Isn't that decided by authorities based on children's needs and your income? I would be surprised you get a say.
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Old 03.10.2021, 18:28
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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

The more you earn, the lower the percentage, so get a better job.

Also, it goes to the child, nothing to do with your ex's lifestyle!

However, while more than 50% is perhaps excessive. 26% is certainly NOT!

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Old 03.10.2021, 18:30
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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

If you were married/living with the mother of your child - 100% of your income would be going to your family...so 26% sounds pretty small to me...



Is 26% actually enough to fully sustain your child's living costs ? Is it what is considered the most they can take from your salary beyond what is considered 'your' reasonable living costs ? Will that percentage go up over time ? The first 1000chf is just for food/housing/clothing. add to that health insurance, childcare costs, transport, gap on health care, extracurricular....



And the cost of raising a child goes up over the years, not down...


And having the mother of your child and your child living in poverty is not really a good idea either - regardless of whether you resent paying her 'lifestyle' costs - if financial wealth is your focus, having the mother continue to take the main caring responsiblity, is financially better than the impact on your work/lifestyle and career of having being a full-time parent.


The 'basic' cost of raising a child in Switzerland is around 1000chf for simply food, clothing, shelter. This does not include the cost of childcare/schooling, health insurance, extracurricular activities, holidays etc etc.


Plus, remember, even if you have another child, a second family, that money still needs to be paid...


Are you taking 50% of the caring responsibility for the child ? Someone who I know thought they wanted to do this, until they realised that they would need to either organise and pay for childcare or take off half of the school holidays to look after the kids.... they quickly worked out that it was cheaper to leave the caring responsibility with their ex-wife... than risk the impact on their own career/cashflow.
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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

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Your post is the OP so who the hell are you replying to in what thread?
I think it‘s quite clear that the OP has confused the term OP with the title. Can we get back to topic now?
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Old 03.10.2021, 18:34
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Plus, remember, even if you have another child, a second family, that money still needs to be paid...
Not quite true, the amounts will be re-evaluated and may be reduced to the previous children, as new children have equal rights to the other children (this was the case with a friend of mine who remarried, adopted his new wife's daughter, and then had another child with the new wife).

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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

Put your child first, no matter the cost, you’ll never regret it.
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. They also have a super complicated non-intuitive method to come up with those figures
This is actually not true - it is a very straight-forward system, further detailed (in English), here:

https://www.ch.ch/en/divorce-and-mai...contributions/

The system is reasonably fair, and BTW, if the wife is earning more than the husband here - then they have to pay child maintenance.

Your child is the most important person in this, and if you waste time and energy disputing your obligations to your child, instead of rather investing that time and energy into spending time with them and building a great and supportive environment between parents despite the divorce, you will regret it for the rest of your life. 26% is nothing.
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Old 03.10.2021, 19:39
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This is actually not true - it is a very straight-forward system,
Exactly!

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Re: what's a reasonable child support percent out of the father's net income?

So:

a) what is you income

b) what is your ex's income

c) how many kids do you have with the ex, and their ages

d) how many other kids worldwide, and their ages

e) which canton

The question CANNOT be answered without this info

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Put your child first, no matter the cost, you’ll never regret it.
From my own bitter experience I can tell you this is not always the case. I paid all I was obliged to and a whole lot more. My ex tried every trick in the book and she screwed me well, most of which my daughter never saw.

And I never saw my daughter again…
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From my own bitter experience I can tell you this is not always the case. I paid all I was obliged to and a whole lot more. My ex tried every trick in the book and she screwed me well, most of which my daughter never saw.

And I never saw my daughter again…
I am deeply sorry to hear that ☹️
I hope you’ll see her again soon.

Not every woman is the same.. I treat my ex husband with kindness and respect.
I encourage father and son to be close.
We got divorced from each other, not from our child.
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I am deeply sorry to hear that ☹️
I hope you’ll see her again soon.

Not every woman is the same.. I treat my ex husband with kindness and respect.
I encourage father and son to be close.
We got divorced from each other, not from our child.
No not every woman is the same. In this example the woman appears to be of of the described type of spending the money on themselves otherwise the poster would not be asking for help. On this kind of situation how can we help him ?
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