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Old 07.10.2021, 18:18
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Re: Respect to all the solo mums on public transport

Well....if you do this often....you may find there is a secret society - of helper mums...and helper people of all age, gender who jump in and help when they see the need.


But yes, don't ever imagine mummies are weak - those upper arms get pretty tough with all the pushing/lifting/rocking/carrying...


At least these days we don't need to scrub floors or laundry!


On the other hand, solo dad, three kids, transiting through Singapore airport.... 'excuse me sir, would you like a lift in one of our electric wagons' ....
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Old 07.10.2021, 19:07
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Well....if you do this often....you may find there is a secret society - of helper mums...and helper people of all age, gender who jump in and help when they see the need.
Not me - I was naively one of those moms with a „hummer“ version 27 years years ago, because a) the type of stroller you had seemed to be a status symbol here in CH and I wanted all the bells and whistles, b) there was really not a lot of choice around at that time - nothing had really been developed that was suitable for urban environments and c) I needed it to take my very active dog (of the sledge pulling type) for at least 2 good walks a day through the forest (with baby, of course - the dog was not in the stroller - don‘t mock me, it happens).

Other Moms used these massive „jogging“ strollers, while jogging with their little ones, which I soon became envious of. But my sledge type dog would have had that over in seconds when on the lead.

And to cap it all, the new cobra trams didn‘t exist either - there were only the old types of trams that you see rumbling around on those lines that still have them today - no others!

So, when I see someone struggling with a stroller today, I first go through all my own memories. Look to see if there‘s anyone else to help, and if there‘s really not, of course give-in to my millisecond of schadenfreude, and rush-in to help.
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Old 07.10.2021, 20:01
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Re: Respect to all the solo mums on public transport

Skoda's 'Mega Man-Pram': A manly stroller for manly dads
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Old 07.10.2021, 21:31
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Re: Respect to all the solo mums on public transport

That was always one of my biggest fears when my son was small and I had to take him on public transport -- that there wouldn't be anyone there to help lift his stroller up or down the steps. Considering how much money this country has, it's really a shame that all trams here aren't more easily accessible in that regard. I can imagine how difficult it must be for someone here who is in a wheelchair.
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Old 07.10.2021, 21:44
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That was always one of my biggest fears when my son was small and I had to take him on public transport -- that there wouldn't be anyone there to help lift his stroller up or down the steps. Considering how much money this country has, it's really a shame that all trams here aren't more easily accessible in that regard. I can imagine how difficult it must be for someone here who is in a wheelchair.
I have witnessed many occasions, where the tram driver has seen that there is someone in a wheelchair with the new trams. I think they have to wait on the same lines at the front of the tram stop, as do blind persons. The tram driver gets out of the tram, helps the person in the wheelchair onto the tram (often the wheelchair is then folded and secured by the driver), and the person accompanied to a seat, and then does the same at the required stop on exiting.

Your post made me wonder, and found these links:

For wheelchairs:

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/vbz/en/...abilities.html

For prams:

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/vbz/en/..._bicycles.html
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Old 07.10.2021, 22:35
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Considering how much money this country has, it's really a shame that all trams here aren't more easily accessible in that regard.
And considering the fact that they want to encourage people to use public transport instead of the cars. I don't understand it.

My another disappointment was when I went to the Cantonal Chancellery to put apostille on the birth certificate and found out that they were located in the old building with several steps at the entrance. And I was less than a month after CS and with a heavy pram and there was only a middle aged lady around who told me that unfortunately she could not help me to carry the pram. So she held a door open for me while I was trying to push a pram up the stairs trying not to harm myself (I already had problems after previous SC probably from lifting something heavy too early). Luckily I survived but I was sending the rays of hatred towards those who decided that the building of the cantonal authorities can be without the barrier-free access.

We have the same problem in our embassy where you also have to go shortly after the childbirth, but at least it reflects the situation in our home country. Every visit there is a good reminder why did you leave the country. The was a period of time when our consul was so drunk during the opening hours that he couldn't understand the request of the visitors.
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I've heard that there are strollers now, which you can take to the plane with you and put in the overhead compartment. I wish I had it when my kids were small.
i use the baby backpacks to carry them on airplanes. much less hassle than a stroller.
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Re: Respect to all the solo mums on public transport

Since Switzerland is a country with strict child carseat laws (good!!), I discovered that this was a really excellent item to have when visiting. It makes airport and train travel much easier, and pretty much every long haul carrier accepts carseats and this attachment at no extra cost, and you can ride in a friends car or the rare taxi without a kid seat, if necessary.
As an often solo dad on public transport, who also traveled the world solo with my infant/toddler/small child, this, baby wipes, bottle leashes, and the diaper bag that includes a changing surface are the greatest inventions for parents traveling with kids. https://www.gogobabyz.com
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Getting a baby with a pushchair - easy. When we fly from Ukraine we arrive to the furthest gate possible (something like E63) and I can get back the stroller only near the exit where you get your luggage, so I have to carry my toddler all the way to the exit, through the train from the E terminal, through passport control etc. In toddlers age my both kids tend to be awake through the whole flight and fall asleep just before landing. So I have to carry the sleeping child all the way, manage to show my passport and permit somehow, and as I finally get my stroller and try to put a kid there she/he is already awake of course.

I've heard that there are strollers now, which you can take to the plane with you and put in the overhead compartment. I wish I had it when my kids were small.
Yep. Same at Manchester. Walking miles to get the pushchair.

In Basel I had to get baby and folded pushchair down the stairs to the plane. Ugh. Makes me feel stressed and sweaty just remembering.
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Try getting a baby through an airport with a pushchair solo. Awful.
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Getting a baby with a pushchair - easy. When we fly from Ukraine we arrive to the furthest gate possible (something like E63) and I can get back the stroller only near the exit where you get your luggage, so I have to carry my toddler all the way to the exit, through the train from the E terminal, through passport control etc. In toddlers age my both kids tend to be awake through the whole flight and fall asleep just before landing. So I have to carry the sleeping child all the way, manage to show my passport and permit somehow, and as I finally get my stroller and try to put a kid there she/he is already awake of course.

I've heard that there are strollers now, which you can take to the plane with you and put in the overhead compartment. I wish I had it when my kids were small.
I had a 3 year old, EasyJet so stupid OíClock flight, pushchair went under the plane, she fell asleep 10 minutes before landing, so me (single mum) had to deal with 2x hand luggage (luckily EJ restricts that) and a 3 year old dead weight off the plane. Luckily she woke up during the passport queue.
Why canít they give you back the pushchairs at the plane door when they take them away at the plane door? Itís needed to get to the gate one one end but itís OK to walk half the airport and struggle through passport control and the baggage reclaim scrum before you need it again?
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I had a 3 year old, EasyJet so stupid OíClock flight, pushchair went under the plane, she fell asleep 10 minutes before landing, so me (single mum) had to deal with 2x hand luggage (luckily EJ restricts that) and a 3 year old dead weight off the plane. Luckily she woke up during the passport queue.
Why canít they give you back the pushchairs at the plane door when they take them away at the plane door? Itís needed to get to the gate one one end but itís OK to walk half the airport and struggle through passport control and the baggage reclaim scrum before you need it again?
Because the needs of lone parents are dismissed. Maybe only 1 or 2 per flight (i was often the only one) and it costs too much to support us. Plus EJ and RyanAir are shites. BA makes sure you have your pushchair etc.
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