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Re: Burn out

I think I have also been feeling burned out for the last two weeks and start understanding concerns quoted above. In my case, it has been combination of work environment dynamics, stress resulting from hearing here and there news about economic crunch and how life is going to be difficult throughout the year, self-inflicted pain doing too much sports and major factor... is a trandescent period between winter and spring which somehow also reflects on personal wellness with minor headaches and migrenes. I hope after few weeks allowed to recuperate it will fully bring one's body and mind back to normal. I keep remembering about multivitamins and healthy nutrition, not as good as fresh produce though and drinking lots of water. Looking forward to get over this little amnesia soon
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Re: Burn out

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I recently tried ginseng, followed the directions on the jar, one capsule morning and night. The first night I was feeling dizzy and my heart seemed to be beating harder and faster, it felt really awful. I have never taken it since.

I have heard you can get it in a tea form perhaps this might be better.

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Re: Burn out

Thanks, Larissa.

Someone else told me it's quite strong stuff!
Not sure I fancy that.
Perhaps tea would be better, as you say.


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Re: Burn out

Many people now are experiencing what you are experiencing. Stress, anxiety and burnout. Symptoms are headaches, sleep problems, lack of energy and motivation, gfeeling overwhelmed, pains in necks and shoulders, stomach problems, catching colds and viruses etc. We are constantly being fed with bad news and people around us are angry and negative. It is so very hard to be positive and energetic. We know that we should be doing something but we just seem we can not get going.

A lot of the previous suggestions are good but in the end we need to do some personal development work to learn how to deal with what life is dealing us.

We can learn how to be resilient and resistant.

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Many people now are experiencing what you are experiencing. Stress, anxiety and burnout. Symptoms are headaches, sleep problems, lack of energy and motivation, gfeeling overwhelmed, pains in necks and shoulders, stomach problems, catching colds and viruses etc. We are constantly being fed with bad news and people around us are angry and negative. It is so very hard to be positive and energetic. We know that we should be doing something but we just seem we can not get going.

A lot of the previous suggestions are good but in the end we need to do some personal development work to learn how to deal with what life is dealing us.

We can learn how to be resilient and resistant.

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I saw your avatar and you are Neurofeedback and Biofeedback Coach. I have a short question if I may ask. For the last two weeks I have been suffering some kind of minor headache. I have been skiing entire season for past 10 weeks in a row and fell down on a snow many fold but with no serious concussions. It is not constant but every time I lay down in bed and turn my neck to the left I feel a slight fuzziness or dizziness for a split of second but it is not a case if I turn my head to the right, strange isnt it? It bothered me and I went ot the general practicioner at my work place. She didnt speak English only German but from what I understood she mentioned something about crystals and possibility that they are being disrutrbed and it may take some weeks to stabilize them back to normal. Else if the symptomes still dont disappear I must consult the head-doctor. What do you think about it? Is it common for people doing sports extensively and sustaining such minor injuries? Sorry if I stole someone's thread
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Re: Burn out

@raincookie - if you think that nutritional deficiency may be a problem, you should hit the basics before things like ginseng. I am no expert, but I would list them as a B-complex, vitamin D, and fish oil (get the products labeled omega-3 fish oil - avoid the products that say omega-3 & omega-6 mix and which have a relatively high omega-6 content). A probiotic is close behind these three.

There's hard-core science to support the importance of all of them in your diet. If you eat a mixed diet with good quality foods and greens, supplementing may be unnecessary. But it's been a long grey winter and your vitamin D levels may be low. There's a simple blood test that you can request from your doctor for this, if you like to see the numbers.

There is also is a bigger picture than supplementing. But the one sure thing is that you have to start somewhere, otherwise nothing changes.
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Today I'm supposed to be working from home, but am struggling with it.
Working from home has quite a few advantages, especially lowering your commute time. But it also means that you have much less social contacts, and much less opportunities to vent frustration out with colleagues.

I do a lot of work from home at the moment, spending weeks or even months without physically meeting a colleague, as soon as the workload and weather allow I get out of my home office for a quick walk near the lake or in the surrounding vineyards, very re-energizing.
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I saw your avatar and you are Neurofeedback and Biofeedback Coach. I have a short question if I may ask. For the last two weeks I have been suffering some kind of minor headache. I have been skiing entire season for past 10 weeks in a row and fell down on a snow many fold but with no serious concussions. It is not constant but every time I lay down in bed and turn my neck to the left I feel a slight fuzziness or dizziness for a split of second but it is not a case if I turn my head to the right, strange isnt it? It bothered me and I went ot the general practicioner at my work place. She didnt speak English only German but from what I understood she mentioned something about crystals and possibility that they are being disrutrbed and it may take some weeks to stabilize them back to normal. Else if the symptomes still dont disappear I must consult the head-doctor. What do you think about it? Is it common for people doing sports extensively and sustaining such minor injuries? Sorry if I stole someone's thread
Regarding pain. Sometimes we can become to focused on our pain and make the pain worse. When we fight the pain, we can tense up and make the pain worse. I would consult with an orthopedic surgeon and double check if there is anything physically wrong with your neck.

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Re: Burn out

Hi BoyWonder, I hear you on the new country adjustments. I've been in a new country (Canada) for almost a year and work with only one other person, so I understand.

One thing really helped me-- squash-- for these reasons:

- Forced me to meet new people. (And there were lots of immigrants like me)
- Endorphins; and it's 100% a fun game
- Better sleep, especially if played in the morning. [And it's like a natural caffeine =) ]
- Lots of tournaments that involve light drinking afterwards as a way to meet new people
- Amazing cardio gets you in better health
- Get out any anger on the ball and through competition
- It's a year-round activity, so you don't meet people then never see them again


A few contributors don't think workouts are a cure all, but I really think they can help in a few areas Enjoy.

Oh, and it's not the worst thing to go on "auto-pilot" at work temporarily if you are not operating heavy machinery.
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Re: Burn out

Hi,
i suggest you to search professional help. Have alot of tips and forums at the Internet but nobody can help you like a professional. i had the same problem and i had to find out what really is inportant in my live and what i have to change. Take time for the things that you need to do. do sport and try to spend time outside at the fresh air. to wright on paper your feelings helps too. i had the chest pain too and panic attacks, for that helps to read at this moment or blow in a plastic bag. things that distract you.

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Re: Burn out

and if counselling is not your thing then a great book I recommend to many of my clients is called

Counselling For Toads by Robert De Board

Tells a great story about Toad who goes to see Heron for counselling and talks about his life and ways to manage it, very well done in the third person

Take it easy

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Re: Burn out

Well, I feel it comming so I've just quit work and signed up for 3 moths of muay thai training in Phuket

http://www.tigermuaythai.com/

1 hour of yoga and 5 hours of thai kick boxing a day is very relaxing (for me)

Then 2 month wondering around India and the rest of Asia...

Did I mention the beaches yet?

tschüs!!!
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Well, I feel it comming so I've just quit work and signed up for 3 moths of muay thai training in Phuket

http://www.tigermuaythai.com/

1 hour of yoga and 5 hours of thai kick boxing a day is very relaxing (for me)

Then 2 month wondering around India and the rest of Asia...

Did I mention the beaches yet?

tschüs!!!
That sounds pretty cool, actually. I may seriously do that one day.
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Well, I feel it comming so I've just quit work and signed up for 3 moths of muay thai training in Phuket

http://www.tigermuaythai.com/

1 hour of yoga and 5 hours of thai kick boxing a day is very relaxing (for me)
That looks excellent, thanks for the link.
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Re: Burn out

In trading, as soon as we start out as trainees, we are told beforehand about stress and to recognize that at some point in time, we could be overwhelmed by it.

We are also advised upon on certain lifestyle changes that could help us manage it better, and it is up to the individual to see what is best.

I find that the following works for me best.

- only one meat portion per day.
- meditation, breathing exercises in a fully dark room
- I find yoga and qigong is more relaxing to me than strenous exercise.
- Managing caffeine intake, meaning only coffee before noon and green tea any other time

I have a routine that I do before I leave the office. This routine ensures I keep my personal state of mind separate from my office state of mind. There is also a 15-20 minute period before I go to work that I re-focus my mind to an office state and my wife knows better than to ask me about what shall we have for dinner during this time .

Stress is at the end of the day a state of mind, we can't get away with the earthly requirements of office politics and employee performance. What we can do is to trick out mind into feeling more serene, and not letting it intrude into our personal space.

I am also reachable on my work mobile 24 hours and check my emails at home and during the weekends, but I make sure only urgent stuff are seen to and there is a clear segregation in my mind of being in a office/work state and personal/private state.

I sincerely understand the issues about stress most of you here are experiencing, and I wish you the best in finding out what works.

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I have a pretty stressful job, and I try to do something that's relaxing to me as often as I can, in my case, fly-fishing. I also recently started running as well because I only go fishing once or twice a month and wanted something else to reduce stress, and I think it's really helped. I've been doing the couch to 5k plan, which, for me at least, makes jogging much more accessible and enjoyable.

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

Find something you love doing and do it often. The fresh air and clarity works wonders!
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Re: Burn out

Hi All, bringing this topic back to life.


Everyone is sharing good ideas on how to relief some stress, etc. But can someone tell the "legal" route if you will? I mean, if Person A has a burn out, the doctor will assess this and write it on a piece of paper. Do you then go to HR? Is it recognised as a real problem?


Please advice.


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Hi All, bringing this topic back to life.


Everyone is sharing good ideas on how to relief some stress, etc. But can someone tell the "legal" route if you will? I mean, if Person A has a burn out, the doctor will assess this and write it on a piece of paper. Do you then go to HR? Is it recognised as a real problem?
Generally you can be signed off after assessment by a doctor or you may be referred to a psychologist. You then pass the "Zeugnis" to your HR department, same as you would if you had broken your leg or had pneumonia.

Speaking of the "legal" aspect if your burn out is caused by factors other than general overwork and a messed up work/life balance (e.g. mobbing or other extraordinary pressure), you need to either find a way to alleviate the causes or start to think whether you would be better off cutting your losses and finding another job.
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Hi All, bringing this topic back to life.

Everyone is sharing good ideas on how to relief some stress, etc. But can someone tell the "legal" route if you will? I mean, if Person A has a burn out, the doctor will assess this and write it on a piece of paper. Do you then go to HR? Is it recognised as a real problem?

Please advice.

Kind regards,

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There was a much more recent thread you could have used https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...d-burnout.html
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There was a much more recent thread you could have used https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...d-burnout.html
yesss... that one is perfect. Thanks
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