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It's not common to see extended breastfeeding here, partly because the times it happens tend to be sleep time, and I know that I personally no longer like to feed in public for fear of what others 'might think' (though I haven't actually experienced any adverse reactions from members of the public on the very seldom occasion I have toddler-nursed in public). But I think you'd be surprised how much it does occur behind closed doors
I completely agree! Even though I've had some rather disappointing experiences with (male) paediatricians being quite disparaging about the benefits of extended breastfeeding, I've had a great deal of encouragement from most of the early childhood nurses here in Fribourg and some of them have mentioned that they also breastfed their own children into toddlerhood.

I don't know if this is borne out in the statistics but I have the feeling that the German-speaking parts of Switzerland are slightly more open to extended breastfeeding than the French-speaking bits.
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Old 21.06.2011, 17:18
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I was still breastfeeding my nearly 2 year old when he caught very nasty gastroenteritis from child care...probably something he ate or just picked up in the garden...

The Kinderspital doctors were very impressed...if I hadn't been still breastfeeding him they would have admitted him and put him on a drip...

He got better, but he lost 900g in 6 days. Very nasty indeed.
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After listening to Jot (who has been my personal breast feeding guru ) I am intending or at least wanting to breast feed for longer, I never expected to be breast feeding after 6 months but little one is now 7.5 months and no sign of stopping. Downside for me is that we will be going for more treatment at some point to try for baby number 2 and i've been told I have to have stopped breast feeding before starting - this didn't seem an issue months ago but now as it looms closer I am finding myself feeling sad at having to cut the BF short
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Re: Breast feeding

Me again everyone

My boy and I are doing well, he has continued to put on about 300g/week which is great and I am so porud to say he is solely breastfed for so long (ok, Iknow compared to some of you who breastfed for a ong time, 1 month si short but for me it feels like a great achievement already )

We still have the spitting issues (more like throwing up bucket loads) but it does not seems to bother him, so I have to be patient and suck up the bucketful of laundry I have to do!

I also have a new question if I may : since yetserday (he is now 5 weeks) he has become extremely fussy at the breast and pulls away multiple times (even if I burp him etc) and feedign sessions have turend bery short and often end in big tears where he cries incosolably for 20 minutes before finally falling asleep (he is always carried aroundin a carrier and especially when he has these crises)

I am starting to worry what this could be

I have a breastfeeding support group (i.e. 4 other mothers who also have small babies and BF) but cannot call them now so thought I would post and see what you think

Thanks for any suggestions on how to make this go away as amn starting to dread a bit feeding sessions....

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PS: @mw: tried to call you but I guess it was bad timings will try again tomorrow
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Old 22.06.2011, 20:11
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Re: Breast feeding

great going Kri! sounds like you are doing a great job.

I'm not a pro on the BF front but do you have a lot of milk? maybe the let down is too fast for little one and he is getting too much milk too fast - if you have a hand breast pump maybe try expressing the first 5 to 10 ml and then try him on the breast again. Only useful thing I can think of

But keep at it he's doing great at 300gr a week! really great
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Me again everyone

My boy and I are doing well, he has continued to put on about 300g/week which is great and I am so porud to say he is solely breastfed for so long (ok, Iknow compared to some of you who breastfed for a ong time, 1 month si short but for me it feels like a great achievement already )

We still have the spitting issues (more like throwing up bucket loads) but it does not seems to bother him, so I have to be patient and suck up the bucketful of laundry I have to do!

I also have a new question if I may : since yetserday (he is now 5 weeks) he has become extremely fussy at the breast and pulls away multiple times (even if I burp him etc) and feedign sessions have turend bery short and often end in big tears where he cries incosolably for 20 minutes before finally falling asleep (he is always carried aroundin a carrier and especially when he has these crises)

I am starting to worry what this could be

I have a breastfeeding support group (i.e. 4 other mothers who also have small babies and BF) but cannot call them now so thought I would post and see what you think

Thanks for any suggestions on how to make this go away as amn starting to dread a bit feeding sessions....

PS: @mw: tried to call you but I guess it was bad timings will try again tomorrow
My daughter used to pull away when the milk came too fast. I figured out that when I placed her on top of the breast she had to work harder against gravity and she was happy feeding like that. I would do what Nicky suggested and pump right away. I ended up with an infection after a couple of sessions of my daughter not feeding well. Go and see a bf consultant at your hospital tomorrow and if you have a fever call them tonight.

Nicky: I was also told to stop BF when TTC our second baby and it's a tough choice, bigger age gap vs all the benefits of BF.

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We still have the spitting issues (more like throwing up bucket loads) but it does not seems to bother him, so I have to be patient and suck up the bucketful of laundry I have to do!
I had this with my son - after EVERY feed he would blaaahh up some of his milk, enough to require a change of clothes if he didn't have a bib on. At bedtime, I would feed him, pop him in his cot, wait for him to throw up, remove the sicky bib and the muslin I'd placed over his cot sheet at head height, then leave the room.

Like your son, he was totally unconcerned by this and otherwise growing nicely and thriving. It eased off after he started weaning, and was gone altogether before he was a year old.

I assumed all babies did this, and when pregnant with my second made sure I had in a vast stock of jauntily coloured bibs since I expected the baby to be living in them for the first few months. Imagine my surprise when my daughter wasn't sick once, not once. In fact, she's 7 now, and has probably only vomited 2, perhaps 3 times in her whole life.

The feeding sounds like it could well be fire hose syndrome, in which he may be guzzling too much air. If you've got a pump, pump off the first oz or so, and then he can always have that in a bottle or from a tiny cup like the bottle lid (they really can sip, even at this age) after the breastfeed if he's still hungry at the end. Or it could just be an age thing - Weeks 5 and 6 are notoriously fussy, especially in the evenings, but then it settles down and by Week 8 you've often got a noticeable pattern going with something resembling a passable block of sleep at night.
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After listening to Jot (who has been my personal breast feeding guru ) I am intending or at least wanting to breast feed for longer, I never expected to be breast feeding after 6 months but little one is now 7.5 months and no sign of stopping. Downside for me is that we will be going for more treatment at some point to try for baby number 2 and i've been told I have to have stopped breast feeding before starting - this didn't seem an issue months ago but now as it looms closer I am finding myself feeling sad at having to cut the BF short
As far as I know, this isn't necessarily true. It's different from case to case but many doctors simply assume their client has to stop breastfeeding to try to conceive again. See for example: http://www.kellymom.com/nursingtwo/r...c-while-bf.pdf

If it was me, I'd research this a bit more and maybe even get an IBCLC specialised in fertility on my medical team before worrying ahead of time. Enjoy breastfeeding now and stop when you are ready.

Also, think about it this way, how would you feel stopping BFing before you were ready and then not succeeding in getting pregnant again? Would you be happier to breastfeed longer and then start treatment when you'd be "ok" to stop breastfeeding? You must remembering that whether you stop breastfeeding or not, trying to get pregnant on "treatment" doesn't always work so what's important is how happy you are with your decision, either way.

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I also have a new question if I may : since yetserday (he is now 5 weeks) he has become extremely fussy at the breast and pulls away multiple times (even if I burp him etc) and feedign sessions have turend bery short and often end in big tears where he cries incosolably for 20 minutes before finally falling asleep (he is always carried aroundin a carrier and especially when he has these crises)
Have things settled down kri? I'm around this weekend and always available on email. It's listed on the LLL website.

For fussing at the breast:
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/...e-nursing.html
And all FAQs:
http://www.llli.org/faq/faqsubject.html

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After listening to Jot (who has been my personal breast feeding guru ) I am intending or at least wanting to breast feed for longer, I never expected to be breast feeding after 6 months but little one is now 7.5 months and no sign of stopping. Downside for me is that we will be going for more treatment at some point to try for baby number 2 and i've been told I have to have stopped breast feeding before starting - this didn't seem an issue months ago but now as it looms closer I am finding myself feeling sad at having to cut the BF short
I am NO expert - just an older mum who breastfed her two. You are doing so well Nicky, take your time and stopping gradually- going over to a cup, which your little one must be ready for now. And it will all fall into place - a few months won't make a difference. Courage et bonne chance.
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I am NO expert - just an older mum who breastfed her two. You are doing so well Nicky, take your time and stopping gradually- going over to a cup, which your little one must be ready for now. And it will all fall into place - a few months won't make a difference. Courage et bonne chance.
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Re: Breast feeding

Hi all,

My wife is concerned if breast feeding in public is accepted in switzerland? Is it ok in cafes? Park bench? Specifically in Basel.

In the UK we are subtle with a muslin over her shoulder and a breast feeding bra and top. It maybe more tricky with winter clothes (we are moving out there in the autumn).

Just wanted to get some reassurance that it is OK in public from your experience.

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Hi all,

My wife is concerned if breast feeding in public is accepted in switzerland? Is it ok in cafes? Park bench? Specifically in Basel.

In the UK we are subtle with a muslin over her shoulder and a breast feeding bra and top. It maybe more tricky with winter clothes (we are moving out there in the autumn).

Just wanted to get some reassurance that it is OK in public from your experience.

Thanks

I breast fed in public in winter and had no issues - found it easier in winter as can wear more layers to disguise etc... I have seen many others feeding also - there are always going to be the few weirdos who think it strange and shocking that a mother feeds her baby in public but I didn't actually come across any of them
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Thanks Nicky,

Do restaurants/cafe staff etc ever raise a concern? Again like most we are subtle and will likely be in the day in relaxed (i.e. not formal/posh) establishments.
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Re: Breast feeding

I have a newborn (well, 7 weeks today) and a just turned 3 year old (who is still nursing) and whenever the baby eats the 3 y.o. wants to too. I think the Swiss German side is a bit more accepting of breastfeeding, but I haven't had anyone say anything to me or give me any looks and I have breastfed them both (not at the same time - too challenging...LOL) in parks, etc. We don't go to restaurants that much because we have 4 kiddos overall, but I have fed the baby in them. I don't use a cover, but I am pretty stealthy since this is my 4th go. I have been lactating for 5 years straight. LOL
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Wow - 5 years Abbie. Your poor husband!

Thanks - glad to hear it is not frowned upon anymore than UK.

Do you find the Swiss to be accepting of babies out and about (on public transport etc.)
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Re: Breast feeding

LOL...yeah, if we lived in Mongolia he would be more appreciative of it. They occasionally leave little bowls of milk for their husbands in the fridge as a treat. They have a very breastfeeding-centric culture.

Babies, definitely. Unless they are just screaming incessantly. Things need to be quiet. But babies, for sure, it's the only way I have begun to learn the language and strangers like to talk to you and look at them. Same as every country.
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Do restaurants/cafe staff etc ever raise a concern? Again like most we are subtle and will likely be in the day in relaxed (i.e. not formal/posh) establishments.

Well as I said I have never come across any issues, I have red in restaurants and cafes and really how many breast feeding mothers sit there with all showing, I have embarrassingly had friends walk up to me in a bar to say hello only to realise when they got very close that i was feeding - so i dont think breast feeding mothers are always super obvious
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Wow - 5 years Abbie. Your poor husband!

Thanks - glad to hear it is not frowned upon anymore than UK.

Do you find the Swiss to be accepting of babies out and about (on public transport etc.)
I find that Swiss LOVE babies (can't comment on unruly toddlers yet as I dont have one ) - but definitely tolerant of babies much more than I had noticed in the UK with friends and families kids - lots of people stop and smile at him or start talking to me or him

especially old swiss ladies - they're lovely
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Thanks all, just shown my wife this thread.

Fire is out!

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