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Double buggies

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My partner and I are expecting twins and are looking for a double buggy in Switzerland. We have not had much luck with finding a shop which has a good selection. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or should we just bring one back from the uk?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Double buggies

My guess is that most stores would not stock the double buggies. It is probably something that needs to be ordered from the distributor.

You might want to drop by the Toys r us store to see what they might have or could order. Best to do a bit of Google work so you know the brand and model that interests you. I have listed a few sites to get you started.

Centre Commercial Ecublens
Chemin du Croset 7
Ecublens (just outside Lausanne - Geneva side of things).

Some sites to look at that have doubles.

http://www.kiddicare.com/webapp/wcs/...051_-1_10001_Y (UK site)

http://www.thinktwins.com.au/catalog839909/prams.php (Australian site but have some suggestions on which style to get)

http://www.twoleftfeet.co.uk/acatalo...___Twins.shtml (some tandem styles to look at)

http://www.pixmania.com/poussette/fr...ag=gu_goog_366 (A French site. Look at the bottom of the page for the different types. Poussette is the French word for Pram).

Good luck with the shopping.
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Re: Double buggies

Hi Ness, (Highness!?!),
do you think it might be an idea to add 'double buggy' or 'twins' to the Tags on your Thread? Verbier's post has links in which might be useful to other folk with the same, or similar requests concerning twins.
PS Hope all goes smoothly with the pregnancy and that you find the 'double' things you need.
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Re: Double buggies

Strange that you can't find any.
Do you not have any larger baby stores near you?
There's a chain around Zürich (I realize this may not help you much) called pro baby, they have at least 4 or 5 different brands of double buggies. Ranging from the cheap (400 +) to the expensive (1000+). If you're ever in Zürich it might be worth a visit. I've been to one of their outlets and found them to be quite competent.
http://www.probaby.ch

Not sure how good your german is, there's a website called http://www.zwillinge.ch/
Which is "twins", they have a forum with some sales stuff. I had a quick look and only saw tripplet wagons, but maybe you'd get lucky there too.
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Re: Double buggies

Congratulations on the twins!
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Re: Double buggies

Thanks for the good wishes, and Verbier and Destiny - thanks very much for the suggestions I will do some more research. I think that the problem is that I have found the three wheeler brand I would prefer on uk websites but I can't seem to find it in Switzerland, plus I haven't found a uk site yet that stocks it and will deliver abroad. There is such a wide choice of single buggies in the Swiss shops that it is a little frustrating that there aren't more doubles....
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Re: Double buggies

Hi Ness,

Why don't you tell us the brand, name, model number etc. of the one you like. Who knows, one of us might have better luck finding a website that is in CH, one that will ship here or local store that can order it.

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Re: Double buggies

There are a lot of Phil & Teds around at the moment. If you like that kind of thing...



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Re: Double buggies

These guys give 15% discount on everything if you are expecting twins. I would not buy clothes there though because they seem to stock more of the designer stuff.


http://www.babyhaus.ch/ueberUns/filialen.php
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Re: Double buggies

oh, forgot to mention - brands in the UK sometimes go by a different name in continental Europe.

Eg.

mamas and papas = Peg Perego (if you are looking for the Aria Twin)

Britax = Romer


I can also suggest the following which seems to be quite popular in Zurich:
http://www.buggy.de/english/twinnertw.php

start with the carry cot and then transform it into a jogger when they sit up. Narrow and short enough to fit into most Swiss elevators and doorways.
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Re: Double buggies

Hi Ness,

I ran into a lady today at my local Starbucks with a double buggy (two of the bassinet style) since her two were still quite small. I could not resist so I asked about the model she had.

It is from ABC design and she loves it.

Here is a link to a German website that has more or less the model. This will give you an idea. She mentioned that it folds down very well.

http://www.preissuchmaschine.de/in-B...sign-Zoom.html

On the right hand side of the page they also list a number of double models.

She bought the buggy from Baby 2000 near Lausanne. Cost was about CHF 1'000 with two seats.

http://www.baby2000.ch/Action.lasso?...esponse=s.html

So, the reason for the follow up is that she said that the basic buggy is sold with the seats. You have to buy the bassinets separately. She will be willing to sell her two bassinets for half what she paid. I think that they would be available in a couple of months (to be confirmed).

She also mentioned that Baby 2000 gives a discount on buggies since you will have twins.

I have her Natel number if you are interested to call. She is French speaking. I did not ask if she spoke any English.

Let me know.

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Re: Double buggies

Wow! I cannot believe how helpful you guys are. Thanks so much for taking the time to write such useful suggestions.

Verbier - the model that we were looking for is the Out n’ About Nipper 360 :

http://www.twoleftfeet.co.uk/acatalog/Out_N_About_Nipper_Double_360.html

We like this one because the seats are next to each other; it is really light and is suitable for all terrains which I thought would be useful for Switzerland. The ABC buggy is a bit too heavy for me, but it was so kind of you to approach someone in Starbucks. I think I have become rather obsessed as I can’t go anywhere without seeing at least 20 prams and literally chase any double buggies to find out more about them. Is this what motherhood does to you???

Thanks again to everyone for the help. We now have lots of baby shops to visit and website to scan, which is great as we have not bought a thing yet…

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Re: Double buggies

Saw the ABC at Wehrli, and as usual with the tandem types, it won't fit into most elevators in Switzerland - they are simply too long. The lenght is something to think about if you live in an apartment with an elevator.

I have never seen the Nipper 360. Looks cool. The most similar I have seen in Switzerland is this one:

http://babyjogger.com/cityminidouble.htm

However, the problem here is.. . what do you do in the first few months when they can't sit up yet?

Anyway, please don't forget to ask any baby store you visit if they would give you a discount for twins. They usually do.
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Re: Double buggies

I talked to the lady with the ABC. She said she can get it in most elevators by sliding the handle in. If it is a two person elevator in an old building, no double carriage will get in.

The issue with the side-by-side option (according to the ABC lady) is that you can't get through most doors and the check out lane at the grocery store.

So the trade off is too long for some elevators (with the bassinets) or not going trough doors etc.

Not easy.

Personally, I would go for the long option.
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Re: Double buggies

Hi Ness

Congratulations! Wow twins - rather you then me

I did a quick google and found this website that appears to send things internationally http://www.bambinodirect.co.uk/detai...60-double.html

If not, you could try going into a local baby shop with a print out of the Out n About and ask if they are able to order it for you. You'll probably have more luck in a small shop then a chain, but be prepared, you might have to pay a small fotune - baby stuff over here are expensive!
Otherwise do you have grandparents coming over for/straight after the birth that could bring it with them? Or are you close enough to France to be able to look there for it? I live close to Germany and bought a lot of baby stuff there - not only are the prices cheaper, but I can claim the VAT back aswell.
You might want to find a shop that sells buggies to look at anyway though. Companies claim that 3 wheelers are good for all teraines, but I was advised against one in the shop when I bought my pram, as they can tip if you're on a sloping track - in the forests in our area the paths aren't even and slop in all directions. It could be that twin buggies are more stable due to being a lot wider though.
As for being obsessed, yes that's completly normal from now until - hmm, will it ever stop I ask? I'm currently pregnant with no.2, and completly frustrated as I dont know yet what sex the baby has - and therefore still can't justify a huge shopping trip

Good luck with it all
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I talked to the lady with the ABC. She said she can get it in most elevators by sliding the handle in. If it is a two person elevator in an old building, no double carriage will get in.

The issue with the side-by-side option (according to the ABC lady) is that you can't get through most doors and the check out lane at the grocery store.

So the trade off is too long for some elevators (with the bassinets) or not going trough doors etc.

Not easy.

Personally, I would go for the long option.

Hello
Just wanted to add a quick comment on the doors/ checkout lanes etc issue. I have got a maclaren twin techno (heres a pic http://www.maclarenbaby.com/us/index...108&Itemid=500 )

I have never ever had a problem getting it through a door or checkout anything, in fact am always amazed when I approach a gap how well it fits through it! Equally getting it on and off buses is also quite easy, plus it can be laden down with loads of stuff. All in all its pretty easy to negotiate

It doesnt go 100% flat but virtually flat and it does say its ok from new born. I used it pretty much immediately with my little one


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Re: Double buggies

talking about long types, this would be my choice:

http://www.babytrend.com/products_de...000&LampID=932

it is only half the weight of the ABC, but.... it is too long as well.. sigh...

Well, door width in Zürich is 79.5cm, as are most elevators. Most side-by-side are ok, except for those really wide ones like Teutonia. I have never thought about supermarket counters though.

Those McLarens are wonderful - very easy to manouver! But it is also surprisingly heavy at about 11kg. The Peg perego Aria Twins are only 9kg, but doesn't "umbrella" fold...
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Re: Double buggies

Ness,

We just had twin boys and I can relate how dificult was not only to choose a buggy but to find a shop in CH that sells them!

We went for the JANE TWIN TWO and so far I love it. It is the long option and I can go through the narrow door or shops with no problems and it fits just right in the lift in our building.

Also important for us was to have the option of having the car seat or "maxi cozy" how they call it here on it. It is not nice to wake up two sleepy babies to put them in the buggy. They just stay sleeping in the car seats.

So far it's been great... In a few months when they can sit proper I might get something more compact but so far it works ok with us.

I'm sure you've seen it on the internet... here's the link

http://www.babyzoop.co.uk/janepro/twintwospecs.html

The shop we ordered from took two months to deliver! (Babyland in Dietikon, around ZH... but I see you are in Vaud)

Good luck!

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Re: Double buggies

Barbie, if you don't mind doing this, can you measure how long your Twin Two is with both car seats attached? My elevator is about 145cm long and so far the shops have not been able to tell me this measurement, simply because noone seems to have it on display.
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Ok, I measured the buggy with the car seats on and the longest measurement is 140 cm. The lift in our building is 145 so it fits just.
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