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They wanted both a boys and a girls name, just in case.
Really?? It is so "practical". I wouldn't like to have to pick a name before I had the baby in my arms for a good hour...

Good to know though, I guess one can change her mind and "rename" the baby after the birth....
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Yes I found it very helpful the few days following the birth...

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Good to know though, I guess one can change her mind and "rename" the baby after the birth....
Our little fella has been "renamed" many times, usually in the wee small hours when he was screaming his head off, but nothing you could alter a birth certificate with...
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Re: Hospital Bags: What to pack for the stay at the hospital after birth

We were asked for the name in advance too. To me that seemed weird, waiting to see his face seems so natural. I think we left it blank too (though we had more or less decided on the name, but just in case he came out looking just like an Xxx and not a bit like a Yyyyyy.)

The hospital can provide you with just about anything, but all at a price ... Newspapers, bottles of water, the nurse opening door to put head in X times a day multiplied by if she actually smiled or not plus surcharge because you weren't even there... Perhaps a stiff drink for when you get the bill...
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Re: Hospital Bags: What to pack for the stay at the hospital after birth

I second the Evian spray, really a great thing.

I would bring your own pump, some friends of mine had troubles switching from the hospital one to the home one. Maybe plastic nipple shields, look into your local pharmacy. They protect nipples, saved mine (watch out though, some newborns do not like them, do not force, to avoid nipple confusion, they do feel like bottles, only do not drip easily..). Lanolin ointment for cracked nipples was a good thing, too. An extra burb cloth (aside of two for your babies), the old cotton terry thing, it is great for warm breast compressions to help out with the milk let down. Disposable panties, they sell them in pharmacies here. Some hospital give you plenty though. A bag of new born diapers.

Otherwise, same things pps mentioned - pads (not the winged ones, since they need to be special cotton maternity ones, without extra absorbents, to indicate the amount of blood loss, but every hospital has dif guidelines I think, but for going home they will do, so your clothes do not get wrecked when sitting in the car), breast pads, baby clothes (we fit size 56 right from the start, do not forget a hat, scratch mits, tights, etc, it is cold now), and boy, I almost forget...

FOOD!!!!!

This now makes me laugh, but when I delivered and those few days after, I was starving. It was frustrating. The Nyon hospital food was attrocious, leaks, onions, beens and cabbage, despite the international baby breastfeeding hospital lisence. I had to have my husband literaly smuggle food to me, to avoid the poor newborn screaming from a colic. So, just call them up and ask the dietitian about their food there, maybe you won't need it, but I would throw some crackers in your bag, apples, little uht boxes of chocolate milks and juices..The big drinking bottle is a good point, I had my own as well, helped lactation incredibly. Maybe a nursing safe painkiller, so you do not have to bug the night nurse and wake your babes.

I would also take birkenstocks, warm socks, knitting, parenting book with newborn trouble shooting section, alarm clock (so you do not have to rely on nurses waking you, for nursing, but a cell might do too), dressing gown or whatever it is called, I had my baby on me all the time and it was nice to "hide" her under that big warm fuzzy thing, plus one feels looking more human when your roomate have ton of around the clock visitors.

An extra pair of towel and wash cloth and a chest easy access night gown, our hospital was very reluctant to change the towels and the nightshirt, I think they follow a quota per patient, no matter how bloody your stuff is.

A dictionary. If your language skills isn't that great, it is useful, the lower rank nursing staff (actually way more human and pleasant in our case) usually does not speak English so well. Our docs and nurses did, but were extremely overbooked.

A comb, hair elastic, good face cream, the air was quite dry, and a lip balm. A plastic bag for dirty laundry, so your hubby can take it home and you do not have to truck it home with your new, squeeky clean babes.

Your family numbers and a phone card in case your cell does not work. After our experiences - I would find out the name of the maternity ward doc chief and the head of the nursing staff.
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Re: Hospital Bags: What to pack for the stay at the hospital after birth

I second the comments on food - as a veggie it appears they would give me the vegetables from the meal and nothing else - i would have to go to the nurses nearly every meal and complain that i didnt get any protein

my hubbie brought food into me quite a bit

am afriad that those first few days are a bit of a blur to me (baby was in SCBU)

However - with twins on the way (thats you not me of course) - it would probably be good to have someone who can help you out when you first get home - even if its just cooking you meals or helping with the laundry
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Re: Hospital Bags: What to pack for the stay at the hospital after birth

MusicChick- Thanks for all the great info. I do have a few questions. I would think they would provide diapers, or no? Also you speak of the pads, did the hospital not offer many of them and some to take home? If not, do I ask for the special ones at the pharmacy?
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The hospital provides baby clothes, but if you are expecting little ones then take your own. My boy was < 3 kgs (at 41.5 weeks) and the smallest size was soo big.

The maternity pads they provide are huge and old fashioned with no wings, so if you can find some nice cotton ones with wings I would take them. They give you a weeks worth of nice net nickers too

In Zug the washkit was provided, so was 2L of bottled water each morning.

Don't forget your marriage certificate, birth certificates, passports, permits ect to register the birth.
My babies where very small and i took my own baby clothes with me but they told me i wasn`t allowed to put my own clothes i had bought they had to use the hospital clothes

I took nursing pads, nursing bras, dressing gown, slippers, tea bags, and DUMMIES.

My husband brought me alot of food, and other friends brought me English snacks
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Old 24.03.2009, 20:25
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Re: Hospital Bags: What to pack for the stay at the hospital after birth

They do provide the nappies, pads and can get you anything else you need. But it is a good idea to have a stock of everything you might need at home even if you dont bring it all with you. The first weeks you may not need the hassle of looking for those things or explaining to hubby what you need. Mind you years later I was still finding creative uses for breast pads and newborn nappies... So don't go overboard either.
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MusicChick- Thanks for all the great info. I do have a few questions. I would think they would provide diapers, or no? Also you speak of the pads, did the hospital not offer many of them and some to take home? If not, do I ask for the special ones at the pharmacy?
Nappies are usually in good supply and they don't even mind if you are a first-time nappy changer and screw a few up (I did - I was rubbish at first).

Our food was fabulous - good balance; nice and hot and on time and there was a good supply of fruit, too.

The maternity pads are plentiful, too. Whenever my stock went down the staff replenished it.

Anything you need you just have to ask. There are loads of women and babies so the nurses can't guess when you need something.
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Re: Hospital Bags: What to pack for the stay at the hospital after birth

A laptop.

Incidentally, I also called the hospital before going to find out if I needed to bring diapers. The lady sounded exasperated and proceeded to ask me what my name, date of birth, address etc were. At some point I was like, uh, pampers? Do you have pampers? And she was like, oh, nappies, why of course.
She heard "papers" when I said "diapers". Apparently no one knows what the heck a diaper is this side of the pond.
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MusicChick- Thanks for all the great info. I do have a few questions. I would think they would provide diapers, or no? Also you speak of the pads, did the hospital not offer many of them and some to take home? If not, do I ask for the special ones at the pharmacy?
Ye, they do, I think you can even take a few for a ride home. We didn't, but I know some friends here had things provided in other hospitals that we did not have and vice versa. Dif cantons, dif hospital, a lot of differences, I was quite suprised coming from a homogenous health policy country.

They give you diapers in the hospital, but twice my room ran out of them at night so I was glad I only reached in my bag instead of calling the nurse. It also happened with the wet wipes (they are actually dry you wet them with warm water), it would have been a hustle to call the nurse and wake up my room mate or her baby. The pads are also good to have a few on you my room ran out of those at night as well (you will still need a stock of those at home when you return from hospital anyways, or most people do). It might have been only due to overbooking, the staff was miserably busy, they were not restocking as they should I think..

For pads - you do not have to specifically ask in the pharmacy, they sell them in the pharmacies on the shelves with the regular menstrual pads. They are cotton filled, in a cotton fishnet stocking, if I remember well back home or here they are plain, cotton white things. But hospital I think should provide them, together with disposable panties. I was glad to have those things with me, though, they are not so expensive. I knew nobody here, had things on me just in case and happened to need them since the maternity ward was quite a mess.
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I second the Evian spray, really a great thing...

...Maybe plastic nipple shields, look into your local pharmacy. They protect nipples, saved mine (watch out though, some newborns do not like them, do not force, to avoid nipple confusion, they do feel like bottles, only do not drip easily..)

...Lanolin ointment for cracked nipples was a good thing, too...

...The Nyon hospital food was attrocious, leaks, onions, beens and cabbage, despite the international baby breastfeeding hospital lisence...
I agree on Evian and lanolin ointment. As for the remaining looooong list, I would say that it is all pretty much optional. I think that it very much depends on whether the hospital is private or not. In private hospitals you basically do not need anything, they provide everything for you and the baby -- nappies, clothes, maternity pads and any food you want. Of course you can bring whatever you want that will make you and the baby more comfortable.

But for two items listed above I am afraid I have to disagree with:

Nipple shields should be avoided at any cost. They can aggravate cracked nipples and cause nipple confusion and poor weight gain in a baby. Hospitals use them a lot for babies that have problems latching on, but in the end it does not resolve anything because at some points the babies need to be weaned from nipple shields and taught how to latch on properly.

Avoiding certain foods (most frequently beans, onions and cabbage) while breastfeeding. In my experience, this has a lot to do with old-wives tales and very little to do with reality. A lot of babies tend to be rather gassy and fussy anyway, so as long as the mother's diet is balanced, there is no particular need to avoid any food or spices.
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But for two items listed above I am afraid I have to disagree with:

Nipple shields should be avoided at any cost. They can aggravate cracked nipples and cause nipple confusion and poor weight gain in a baby. Hospitals use them a lot for babies that have problems latching on, but in the end it does not resolve anything because at some points the babies need to be weaned from nipple shields and taught how to latch on properly.

Avoiding certain foods (most frequently beans, onions and cabbage) while breastfeeding. In my experience, this has a lot to do with old-wives tales and very little to do with reality. A lot of babies tend to be rather gassy and fussy anyway, so as long as the mother's diet is balanced, there is no particular need to avoid any food or spices.
Sorry but I have to disagree with you - for some mothers nipple shields are the only way that some can breastfeed - I know quite a few women who have used them to prevent poor weight gain and yes the babies have needed to use them for some time - however for many that is better than nor BF at all.

In regards to the food - it is sooo not an old wives tales - and in those first few weeks it really is best to avoid these products - just because the baby is fussy doent mean that you should potentially aggrevate it further. Some babies are not affected by these foods at all - but for others it can be a trigger for colic - something we all want to avoid. (I do know this from direct experience)
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In regards to the food - it is sooo not an old wives tales - and in those first few weeks it really is best to avoid these products - just because the baby is fussy doent mean that you should potentially aggrevate it further. Some babies are not affected by these foods at all - but for others it can be a trigger for colic - something we all want to avoid. (I do know this from direct experience)
I wish someone had told that rule to my son when he was tiny. Didn't matter what I ate (a day of bland food and hippy harmonious teas or a day of onion pie, onion soup and onions for dessert) he was still Mr Fartypants with occasional stomach cramps until he was three months old.
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...for some mothers nipple shields are the only way that some can breastfeed...however for many that is better than nor BF at all...

In regards to the food - it is sooo not an old wives tales - and in those first few weeks it really is best to avoid these products - just because the baby is fussy doent mean that you should potentially aggrevate it further. Some babies are not affected by these foods at all - but for others it can be a trigger for colic - something we all want to avoid. (I do know this from direct experience)...
I agree that it is better to breastfeed with a nipple shield than to give up, but my point is that, whatever you will be led to believe, nipple shields are most often absolutely unnecessasry. They are too frequently recommended by hospital staff simple because they have no idea how to help women latch their babies on. I also speak from direct experience. It took me weeks to wean my firstborn off the nipple shield.

As to your second point, I still think that avoiding beans and cabbage is old wives' tales that has little benefit but may put additional burden on breastfeeding mothers. Some babies may be sensitive to some foods, but this is exceedingly rare.
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I agree that it is better to breastfeed with a nipple shield than to give up, but my point is that, whatever you will be led to believe, nipple shields are most often absolutely unnecessasry. They are too frequently recommended by hospital staff simple because they have no idea how to help women latch their babies on. I also speak from direct experience. It took me weeks to wean my firstborn off the nipple shield.
The point about breastfeeding help is very true. I found one nurse in the hospital who had the knack of getting my son to latch on but she disappeared after a day and I was left with the fumbling attempts of the other nurses. They were really nice and tried really hard but my sister in law, who had seen my desperation, had (bless her) gone home read everything she could on the internet about it and was the one who got it all going.

My advice to anyone going to have their first child is to find someone who can really help you with this bit. It's terribly frustrating when everything else is going swimmingly but you find the one thing which you think was going to go like clockwork doesn't click.

Probably going way off topic but this might help someone as an alternative solution - try standing up with the baby to breastfeed if you are having trouble. It kind of forces you into the right position.

To add a big BUT to that - I also know lots of mums who found breastfeeding a piece of cake and the baby knew exactly what to do from the first moment so I didn't mean to be scary about the whole breastfeeding thing.
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Re: Hospital Bags: What to pack for the stay at the hospital after birth

Thanks everyone for the great tips and lists. I will be staying at Bulach so it is a public hospital. Maybe they will stock me up good and give me special twin treatment :-P.

About nipple sheilds..my LC told me to use these with my son and it never ended up working. I have to wonder if he never latched due to the reccomendation for me to give him a bottle at night in the hospital. I hope to be able to breastfeed this time..sure would save money. I am just sick of hearing the comments that I can't do it since I have twins!
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I agree that it is better to breastfeed with a nipple shield than to give up, but my point is that, whatever you will be led to believe, nipple shields are most often absolutely unnecessasry. They are too frequently recommended by hospital staff simple because they have no idea how to help women latch their babies on. I also speak from direct experience. It took me weeks to wean my firstborn off the nipple shield.
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I agree about the help in the hospital - when I had my LO over here I was given assistance only once and left to get on with it - I then really struggled and ended up having to express all the time (he was in SCBU) I am pretty sure that if I had had more help he would have fed from me and I would not have been feeling like a diary cow :-(
BUT - the baby in the next bed had no issues feeding

Its always best to have infomation as the midwives can be very busy
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