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Lawyer and suing in Switzerland

Good evening all!

So I was in Lausanne last night with CD and another guy to party. Checked in to a little hotel close to the city centre. Seemed to be very good hotel, with eng. speaking staff and good rooms. They said that they locked the door during the night, but it was only to call the reception from the doorbell to get in.

I was out and dancing and so on, and then got separated from the others, so I decided to walk home to the hotel. It was no worries or so, and the night was nice and warm.

When I arrive outside the hotel, I find the door locked. So I call the reception from the doorbell to get in.

Here's what happened;

Me: "Can I get in please, I'm mr. blablabla in room blablabla"
Receptionist (sleepy) "Uhu, sure you are" *click*

So I tried calling and calling, and I even called every single room to get in, but only one man answered, and he hung up on me aswell.

Because of this, I ended up getting robbed just in front of the hotel, and I had to take a cab to another hotel, and buy a new room!! (He didn't take my whole walled, thank god)

So now I am of course angry as hell, and I want to sue the hotel for not letting me in, causing me to get robbed.

What I need is some legal advice, like how much it is reasonable to ask for and other stuff I should think about. I'm no expert, but to me it seems like I have a pretty good case, right?

Any lawyers around?

Thanks!
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Old 13.06.2009, 22:25
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Re: Lawyer and suing in Switzerland

didn't you call the police?
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Old 13.06.2009, 22:27
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Re: Lawyer and suing in Switzerland

Getting robbed seems like an afterthought in this sorry tale. Surely this would be the main topic? I assume you've been to the police? What happened when you went back to the hotel to collect your possessions in the morning? I assume you didn't pay for the night?

TBH, not everything adds up.

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Old 13.06.2009, 22:28
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Re: Lawyer and suing in Switzerland

Did you call the police and report this?

I would confront the manager or owners of the hotel and try and resolve this directly.

Sorry to hear that you got robbed.

Myself I would keep ringing the buzzer until they let me in. If they had called the police I would just have told them.

Good luck sorting this out.
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didn't you call the police?
Nah, I didn't have any batteries on my phone, and I was not really in the mood to wander the streets looking for one at that time. I'm going to the office to write a report on monday. Does this affect me negatively?
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Old 13.06.2009, 22:35
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Nah, I didn't have any batteries on my phone, and I was not really in the mood to wander the streets looking for one at that time. I'm going to the office to write a report on monday. Does this affect me negatively?
Well in the common sense stakes yes it does affect how people will take the story you tell them.

Also it does not help backup your story, it becomes just your word against no ones really.
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Getting robbed seems like an afterthought in this sorry tale. Surely this would be the main topic? I assume you've been to the police? What happened when you went back to the hotel to collect your possessions in the morning? I assume you didn't pay for the night?

TBH, not everything adds up.

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Well I was staying in the hotel with a friend, and he was not in the room when I tried to get in. I called the room for ages, and the same for the reception. So he collected my things, and paid for the room (he didn't have a clue about what happened at this time). So I didn't really have a chance to talk to someone at the hotel, and we left quickly after.

It adds up, trust me.
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Well in the common sense stakes yes it does affect how people will take the story you tell them.

Also it does not help backup your story, it becomes just your word against no ones really.
I was hoping that they had surveilence cameras outside the hotel, in that case, it is very easy to see what happened-. It was just in front of the entrance.
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Nah, I didn't have any batteries on my phone, and I was not really in the mood to wander the streets looking for one at that time. I'm going to the office to write a report on monday. Does this affect me negatively?
Without a police report, it is your word against theirs! What evidence do you have to substantiate your allegations?
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Here's what happened;

Me: "Can I get in please, I'm mr. blablabla in room blablabla"
Receptionist (sleepy) "Uhu, sure you are" *click*
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I was hoping that they had surveilence cameras outside the hotel, in that case, it is very easy to see what happened-. It was just in front of the entrance.
Had there been a camera than it would have been obvious that you were mr. blablabla from room blablabla wanting to get in..
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Had there been a camera than it would have been obvious that you were mr. blablabla from room blablabla wanting to get in..
Yeah that's the problem. But maybe the receptionist couldn't really be bothered to go and look at the screen, she sounded very tired. And as for more evidence, my mate can confirm that I was not staying in the room.
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I was hoping that they had surveilence cameras outside the hotel, in that case, it is very easy to see what happened-. It was just in front of the entrance.
They are hardly likely to give you the tape or evidence if there is any from surveilence cameras if you are trying to sue them.

Hate to say it but you really should have called the police, at least you would have a report or something to go on.
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Re: Lawyer and suing in Switzerland

I suggest you go to the police tonight, see what they can do and tell them your side of the story. They might give you legal advice eventually. Otherwise check with you legal insurance provider?
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They are hardly likely to give you the tape or evidence if there is any from surveilence cameras if you are trying to sue them.

Hate to say it but you really should have called the police, at least you would have a report or something to go on.
So what, I can't do the report tomorrow for example?
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So what, I can't do the report tomorrow for example?
Ever heard time is of the essence?

Yes, but honestly the way you are coming across it hardly seems convincing. I am sure the response from the police is not going to be a million miles away from this.

A crime was commited, it is hardly the thing you leave for a few days in my opinion.

Again good luck sorting this out.
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Ever heard time is of the essence?

Yes, but honestly the way you are coming across it hardly seems convincing. I am sure the response from the police is not going to be a million miles away from this.

A crime was commited, it is hardly the thing you leave for a few days in my opinion.

Again good luck sorting this out.
Well you might be right. I'll talk to the police tomorrow to see what they have to say. Thank you!
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Well I was staying in the hotel with a friend, and he was not in the room when I tried to get in. I called the room for ages, and the same for the reception. So he collected my things, and paid for the room (he didn't have a clue about what happened at this time). So I didn't really have a chance to talk to someone at the hotel, and we left quickly after.

It adds up, trust me.
Sorry to hear of your bad luck and I hope you were not hurt in the mugging.

OK, so lets see if I got this right, you got separated from your party and decided to walk back to the hotel alone. When you got back there, you were refused entry by the receptionist and you tried your friend's room but he was not there either. You then hung around outside the hotel for a while, got mugged, organised taxi for yourself and went to another hotel. But did not think it worth while to contact the police that evening or even the next morning.

A couple of questions that are going to be asked:

- Given you were hanging around outside the hotel, getting mugged and sorting out a taxi, how come you missed you're friend's return to the hotel?

- How did you're friend get into the hotel and you did not?

- Even if your mobile battery was low, why did you not ask other hotel to contact the police for you?

- Next morning, given that your friend did not know what happened to you, why did he feel comfortable about collecting you stuff, paying the bill and leaving the hotel without you?

Given that you failed to report the crime at the time, I expect you will have an up hill battle to get the police to believe you.

Good luck with that,

Jim.
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Hehe he was with CD. CD and suing hehe.
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Re: Lawyer and suing in Switzerland

I think it's a bad idea to not file that report just because a couple days may pass until you get the opportunity to do so. You can file a report at any police station. Even if the circumstances would not put you in a favourable light (say you were dead drunk or whatever) you were robbed and going to the police is the right thing to do.

I don't think that the hotel failing to let a guest in makes it in any way responsible for the losses from the robbery.
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So I tried calling and calling, and I even called every single room to get in, but only one man answered, and he hung up on me aswell.
I never woulda thought CD was such a cheapskate to take you to a hotel where you have to ring the rooms from the bell.

Thinking of it - how many hotels are there where you can "ring the rooms from the bell"?
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