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Old 13.07.2009, 17:44
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H1N1 vaccination

Having read that there are over 10,000 cases of Swine Flu in the UK now and having plans to be there for a few weeks in August, I was mulling the possibility of an HN1N vaccination.

Are these available in Switzerland? And would it be covered by health insurance (I know this varies, but generally)?

I know that despite there being fatalities in the UK, this is generally a mild illness. Nevertheless, it's always better to have no flu than some flu.

Update: I've just Google this and it appears the Novartis vaccine won't be distributed until after the end of August anyway. I guess we'll keep the thread open in case people want news on this later in the year.

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Old 13.07.2009, 19:27
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Re: HN1N vaccination

My company always provides free influenza vaccinations in October. I would guess that they will do the same for the Swine flu vaccination, once it is availalbe.

Is it common for companies to provide vaccinations? I assume this is part of the SUVA program.
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Old 13.07.2009, 19:46
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Re: HN1N vaccination

It was my understanding that there isn't yet a vaccine for H1N1 or rather for this particular strain of it.
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Re: HN1N vaccination

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It was my understanding that there isn't yet a vaccine for H1N1 or rather for this particular strain of it.
As I understood it from a recent news report the vaccination is just this years standard flu vaccination. Don't know if there is any update on that one now.
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Re: HN1N vaccination

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As I understood it from a recent news report the vaccination is just this years standard flu vaccination. Don't know if there is any update on that one now.

that's what I thought too, I've been doing a bit of checking in the background to see if I could find out anything, the BBC has a basic facts page which in the text box "Swine Flu - the Basics" mentions that there is no vaccine :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8021958.stm


One other related aspect is that many people will claim they had a bout of " 'flu" when what they really had might have been a bit of a cold, real flu doesn't come and go in the space of a couple of days and it will make you feel crap.
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Old 13.07.2009, 20:13
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Re: HN1N vaccination

On the Swissinfo site there is an article that reads that it is unlikely that a vaccine will be ready until October.
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Re: H1N1 vaccination

The H1N1 vaccine is:
  • being developed now
It is not
  • 'this year's seasonal flu vaccine'
  • yet available
The Swiss Govt announced last week that they have contracted to buy quantities of the vaccine form manufacturers (including a large 'domestic' healthcare Co).
What they plan to do with it is not yet clear.

Whether companies (other than the manufacturers of the vaccine) will be able to buy it when it comes available is debatable.

However, if it is made available to you, I'd get one if I were you....
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However, if it is made available to you, I'd get one if I were you....
… if you like to be a guinea pig for a new and barely tested vaccination, rushed to the market by companies with a main interest in profit and often a bad record, Baxter for example.

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Re: HN1N vaccination

...in that case, I'll have yours, chum....
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Re: HN1N vaccination

As long as you're back in Switzerland before the expected winter surge you should be okay
Or maybe not:
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news_dig...4800000&ty=nd:


It wouldn't put me off travelling
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Old 14.07.2009, 13:18
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Re: HN1N vaccination

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Since new technologies are involved in the production of some pandemic vaccines, which have not yet been extensively evaluated for their safety in certain population groups, it is very important to implement post-marketing surveillance of the highest possible quality. In addition, rapid sharing of the results of immunogenicity and post-marketing safety and effectiveness studies among the international community will be essential for allowing countries to make necessary adjustments to their vaccination policies.
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swine.../en/index.html

Post-marketing surveillance and safety – any volunteers?

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Old 14.07.2009, 13:30
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Re: HN1N vaccination

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http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swine.../en/index.html

Post-marketing surveillance and safety – any volunteers?

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And yet the H1N1 virus, despite safety concerns, still made it to the market. tsch...

Ok, besides safety concerns of vaccines, is it really required to vaccinate the whole population? Aren't certain people more vulnerable than others?
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Old 14.07.2009, 13:33
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… if you like to be a guinea pig for a new and barely tested vaccination, rushed to the market by companies with a main interest in profit and often a bad record, Baxter for example.

Martin
There are 17 people and their grieving families in the UK who probably would have cut off their right arm for the chance to have been guinea pigs before they slipped off the mortal coil from complications brought on by their swine flu.
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Re: H1N1 vaccination

Update: I spoke with my doctor last week, and she said H1N1 vaccines will be rolled out in Switzerland starting in November, with priority patients (e.g. health care workers, pregnant women) being the first to receive the shot. Other people can choose to receive the shot as supplies become available.

I'm debating what to do myself... I'm from Canada, which currently is experiencing vaccination MANIA. The consensus there seems to be that vaccination is a good idea.

Any thoughts?
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Re: H1N1 vaccination

Hi Laura,

I'm also from Canada, and am amazed at lack of 'mania' on this side of the pond. I really don't know if it is a good of bad thing, as I have always trusted the recommendations of Health Canada. On the advice of my OB/GYN here in Switzerland (as I am in the third trimester), I will be getting the priority H1N1 vaccination mid-November, as well will my husband.

However, my two year old son's pediatrician on the other hand does not recommend that he gets the vaccination ... which leaves me quite confused, as I thought that "all persons living with a pregnant woman should be vaccinated" (as recommended here in Switzerland), not to mention he is in daycare two mornings a week, plus involved in various playgroups.

Is anyone else out there just as confused as I am??? People with young children, what is your pediatrician advising?
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Re: H1N1 vaccination

I'm as nervous as anyone about the new vaccine but with a child just finished chemotherapy in July, I'm going to err on the side of getting him and our family the vaccine.

I read this article from the CBC that says that after 1 million doses of the vaccine, there doesn't appear to be any problems with the vaccine. As well, this vaccine is only a variant of seasonal flu vaccines and those are safe. Good luck with your decision!

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/11/05/h1n1-who.html

I was contemplating spending Dec in Canada before moving to Lausanne. It appears that Canada is on the upswing of their second wave of flu. (Admittance rates to hospitals have tripled this week since last week and this is only the beginning of the flu season!) In Asia, they don't expect the second wave to start until Feb. So, why am I thinking of leaving? We might just go directly to Lausanne. It appears the Swiss are pretty indifferent to the vaccine so there might be a better chance of getting it in Switzerland than in Canada or Hong Kong. (In Hong Kong, people will line-up for hours if they think the price of rice will spike!)

Here is a link to Swiss information about the H1N1:

http://www.pandemia.ch/en-us/home.html

Unfortunately, the link to the Canton of Zurich is only in German so I can't read the information. We are moving to Lausanne and it appears there are no plans to vaccinate in Vaud (at least not in public clinics) as there are no links to the Canton of Vaud??
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Here is a link to Swiss information about the H1N1:

http://www.pandemia.ch/en-us/home.html

Unfortunately, the link to the Canton of Zurich is only in German so I can't read the information. We are moving to Lausanne and it appears there are no plans to vaccinate in Vaud (at least not in public clinics) as there are no links to the Canton of Vaud??
Thanks for the link -

You might call the hotline, perhaps they can tell you of plans in Vaud

+41 31 322 21 00 from outside, or 031 322 21 00 from inside Switzerland
(this number is in Bern)

Also, I went back to the page you posted, and looked at the "where to be vaccinated" There is a link to Vaud, but because the page you are sent to is in German, it's spelled Waadt, not Vaud.

Here's the link to the offical vaud page (in French, of course, and my French sucks more than my German)

http://www.vd.ch/

and down at the bottom, there is a link to info on the flu (grippe), but that just sends you to the pandemia link above. A little circular.

But there is an H1N1 hotline in Vaud
021 316 54 54 (de 8 h ŕ 22 h) or from outside +41 21 316 54 54, so perhaps you can get some answers from one of these groups. Good luck though.

Travel is so dicey right now - it would be nice if you could have a vaccine, at least for your little one before you fly. I also think that Switzerland is more relaxed about this because H1N1 is less widespread here, and possibly because people with jobs have sick time.


Good luck, hope you get the info and the vaccines you need.
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Re: H1N1 vaccination

There was an article last week in the local newspaper (24heures): the vaccination should start on the 16th of Nov. with 'priority' cases, and then for anybody who wants it from the 23rd. It will be costless, as the 'canton's will pay for vaccines.

Switzerland ordered 15 millions doses (for a cost of almost 200 millions CHF, paid by the Confederation), and last stats showed that about 9% of the population wishes to get a vaccine, so I guess there won't be fights over it...
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Re: H1N1 vaccination

Thank you for the link to "Vaud". I had tried to guess what the German equivalent to "Vaud" was but I missed it.
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Re: H1N1 vaccination

Vaud in German is Waadt. Being a 100% French speaking canton, you won't need the word once there!
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