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Old 27.07.2009, 04:00
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

I find it a little weird to be "told" to have my young kid basically hang out in public area without parents. I know the child is expected to walk to school but kids change their minds, especially at 4 or 5yrs, their buddies pushing them, or some weirdo snatching one of them, what can a group of 4-5yr olds do in a moment like that?

Why do schools so insist on parents pushing kids away? They spend the entire day together with their classmates so the precious time to "bond" is not a valid reason in my opinion. I do not think walking to school is a symbol of independence either, btw, anyone can do it, be it independent or not independent child, it's a task for mindless robots. True independence manifests itself in different ways. Just like underdressing children in winter does not make them stronger, or making them study in cold in underheated classrooms.

Where I am from it is completely up to parents to decide, since they have legal responsibility for their children until the child touches the school gates. If something happens here with a small child walking to school unsupervised, I cannot even imagine the emotional and moral terror to go through. I somehow feel that one forgets to be nice to our children in this quest for anti-coddling..

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What experience do you have when it comes to this? What are your thoughts?

Maybe I´m overpretective, but c´mon, two bigger roads to pass + the distance. Any creepy person could just grab him and... Don´t want to think about it.
I used to walk further to kindergarten when I was 5. As for creepy people grabbing kids, stats say that kids are most often 'napped by people they are related to.
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I used to walk further to kindergarten when I was 5. As for creepy people grabbing kids, stats say that kids are most often 'napped by people they are related to.
Yo, I wouldn't chance to fall into the unfavorable bit of stats..

There has been some kidnapping in our region, Ge and neighboring FR (Gex) last year, scary.

It is interesting how walking your 4yr old to daycare is actually seen as good parenting in other parts of the world, shows interest and care.

I know one can do lots of things without making fuss about it, I see most parents of young kids actually walking them to school in our town, just letting them go a street or one corner early, so they actually get to walk "alone" few metres. I wouldn't want my child to be picked on by a teacher in her class just because I consider it lousy letting her walk through big traffic on her own.
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hi there
from kg2 working mom with a bit of a different story...
don't be so scared of the perverts...be more aware of who his friends are...
my son walked to school with the 'crowd' as a 5 year old (kg1), it's not far, no roads to cross etc but i always felt...uncomfortable. so of course the call came one day: frau..., wo ist ... heute, ist er krank - no he's not sick, he left for school more than 30mins ago - so you run out of you door screaming his name all the way to school - by the time i got home again the kinderkrippe phoned me to ask why was he with them and not at school?
so, one of his 'friends' teased and harrassed him so much that the teacher will 'beat' him for a mistake made the previous day that he became so scared that he walked right past the school and all the way to the krippe, across the bridge, over the busy road, etc by himself...
i was beside myself - so now i drive him to school - then i know he's there - i don't care what they say - if that then makes me less swiss, so be it - i try with everything else and do my best, but sometimes its just too much...
so if you are 'uncomfortable', look closer to home, and walk with him if you can for as long as you want - it's your priviledge!
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teachers are NOT allowed to smack chldren. That now for many years. It is more likely THEY get smacked.
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teachers are NOT allowed to smack chldren. That now for many years. It is more likely THEY get smacked.
Sandaleen suggested no such thing.

Your groan is unwarranted.

Please read her post again.
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

Thank you Douglas for correcting me. I read that the teacher will "beat" him.
Maybe you could translate that to a poor stranger like I am to your language.
I thank you in advance

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so, one of his 'friends' teased and harrassed him so much that the teacher will 'beat' him for a mistake made the previous day that he became so scared that he walked right past the school and all the way to the krippe, across the bridge, over the busy road, etc by himself...
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so, one of his 'friends' teased and harrassed him so much that the teacher will 'beat' him for a mistake made the previous day that he became so scared that he walked right past the school and all the way to the krippe, across the bridge, over the busy road, etc by himself...
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

frankly NO
unless beat him, does not mean beat him
and not bother to reply I ask my english friends
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Old 29.07.2009, 17:57
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

A classmate told him the teacher will beat him.
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

then my interpretation was not wrong. I know that beating is absolutely not allowed (thank God) in schools, As I wrote, the teacher have to be careful not to get beaten from the kids.
My groan was not directed at the writer but at the statement. I have removed the groan.
Thank you Nathu, that was nice of you to write
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Old 29.07.2009, 18:26
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came as a shock to us too, the school even called us in and told us off for dropping our son off at school, even though it was on my way to work!! (he was 6 at the time too)

He survived though, and still walks to school with his mates
Same thing happened to me when it was cold i would drive my daughter to school, and pick her up (she as a serious illness that can kill her if she get`s a cold) i take it in turns with her bestfriends mum. Anyway 1 day she was waiting in the car for our kisd to come out to drive them home when the teacher told her the kids have to walk home, so she drove round the corner then the kids jumped in her car. My daughters teacher even asked for a meeting about me taking and picking my daughter up. Ok when the weather is nice she walks, but when it is freezing cold and she as to be at school at 7.20am and as 30mins to walk i think i have a right to drive her to school

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Two points that I think help a lot. I too went to kindergarten and school on my own in the late 1980s. The policeman explained how to cross streets in the classroom first (the magnetic car models on the blackboard impressed me) and then we went out to practice what we learnt.

Also, every August there are big poster campaigns to raise the awareness of car drivers.
My kids also had the police come to them in KG and school to teach them how to cross the road
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

@yoli - the young boy was told by his classmates he was going to be beaten when he got there. He didn't know that hitting wasn't allowed so he was too scared to go to school.

Glad to know beating isn't allowed in Swiss schools, as it is allowed here.
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

@Magnolia Thank you:_)

@ Sutter, how terrible for your daughter to have to keep away from germs as it endangers her life. That is a great worry to you parents.
Please dont forget, normally they are germs who cause a cold not the weather. Walking on a cold day, may not be dangerous for her on the contrary. It could harden her up.
On the other hand I understand you wanting to drive her.
Just like to tell you this.
I helped in a Nursery school one day a week. We went to the woods summer and winter every thursday with the 4 to 6 year old children in all weather.
They were seldom ill, became even more tough (resiliant) and loved it.
It did me a world of good as well :-)
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@ Sutter, how terrible for your daughter to have to keep away from germs as it endangers her life. That is a great worry to you parents.
Please dont forget, normally they are germs who cause a cold not the weather. Walking on a cold day, may not be dangerous for her on the contrary. It could harden her up.
On the other hand I understand you wanting to drive her.
Just like to tell you this.
I helped in a Nursery school one day a week. We went to the woods summer and winter every thursday with the 4 to 6 year old children in all weather.
They were seldom ill, became even more tough (resiliant) and loved it.
It did me a world of good as well :-)
Thanks it is the cold weather that triggers the illness, dry air which is dangerous for her, that is why i need to drive her. If she didn`t have this illness i would be happy for her to walk to and from school in all weathers
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then that teacher will have to accept it. I get cross when I think that a teacher thinks she knows it better. Maybe you get a doctor's attest to show to the head teacher. At any rate I would complain to him/her about the one teachers way to not listen to reason.
Sorry for the little girl, hope it will get better in time :-)
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It is interesting how walking your 4yr old to daycare is actually seen as good parenting in other parts of the world, shows interest and care.
We're not talking about 4 year old kids walking to day care, we're talking about final year kinder garten kids walking to KG for the last few months that they are in KG and then continuing to do the same when the go to school. At that stage they are at least 6 and a half!

If you let a 4 year old walk to anywhere here, you'd soon get a quick introduction to the local policeman and social services officer believe me.

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We're not talking about 4 year old kids walking to day care, we're talking about final year kinder garten kids walking to KG for the last few months that they are in KG and then continuing to do the same when the go to school. At that stage they are at least 6 and a half!

If you let a 4 year old walk to anywhere here, you'd soon get a quick introduction to the local policeman and social services officer believe me.

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Sorry, but my son started walking to KG on his own (well with his friend) i walked the first few days with him, but then he wanted me to walk on his own with his friends, the police came to give them a talk on how to cross the road safely within the first couple of weeks they started so i don`t think the police or social services would get involved
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then that teacher will have to accept it. I get cross when I think that a teacher thinks she knows it better. Maybe you get a doctor's attest to show to the head teacher. At any rate I would complain to him/her about the one teachers way to not listen to reason.
Sorry for the little girl, hope it will get better in time :-)
We have talked to the teacher and explained to her how serious it is, but she refuses to listen and insists she walks, tks i will get a letter from the Doctors expaining how serious it is, and hope she will understand then
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We're not talking about 4 year old kids walking to day care, we're talking about final year kinder garten kids walking to KG for the last few months that they are in KG and then continuing to do the same when the go to school. At that stage they are at least 6 and a half!

If you let a 4 year old walk to anywhere here, you'd soon get a quick introduction to the local policeman and social services officer believe me.

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A bunch of posters here posted about walking when 4 or 5. I actually really like this, since I walked to school I think since I was 6 and kids in my homeland do it on regular basis, if their neighborhood or distance permit. But what I have beef with is the school telling folks to do it with everyone, no matter where they live and how fit their children actually are for this..I love the idea of Pedibus!

We live in a center, ton of traffic (people get regularly run over right in front of our house, believe it or not due to too many confusing crosswalks too close to eachother), that with the recent kidnappings here make me nervous. So it is nice to see people walking their children to kindergartens and school, or actually how I want to do it, a street short of school . In my canton it is compulsory to send kids to kindegarten at 4yr for two years prior school.

I have seen, unfortunately, 4yr olds walk alone in the street alone or at a playground, it is quite common, folks drop them and run off for something. Playgrounds here do not have safety gates unlike the ones I am familiar with at home, some of them are right at a road.

Things are fortunately safe here, I agree, but coming from a safe country myself, people should be careful, no matter how safe things seem to them..It only takes one time to learn and then it is too late. It is good to trust one's gut feeling, not get high on the "safe" notion that one easily appreciates especially if coming from not so safe home land.
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Re: kids walking to school on their own

When it comes to safety, I could not care less of other opinions. I would not let a child walk to school through busy traffic either. I agree with MusicChick, a good dose of common sense is necessary and agree that it has nothing to do with a child's capacity of handling his/her independence.
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