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grandma needs help - [Childsupport issues]

Took me long enough to find where to write-my daughter -divorced-leave-can't be true that they don't go after the fathers in Oetwil am see with her 2 children and my concern is about my granddaughter who receives no child support from her father-who she doesn't know-will try and find the right place and hope to get some information about how things work there
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I would like to help.
Therefore, could you please give a little more detailed information.
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Welcome, Carmen, to this place! I think that I also could contribute with some support if you gave us a little more information. Or contact me directly through my website, I deal with such issues daily (I'm a professional social worker)
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Many thanks-my granddaughter is 10-the Father was called twicefor a DNA test and didn't show up so the court said he was the legal father-think he payed twice but since then not-the Jugendsekretariat in Mannedorf seems to sit 0n IOU's waiting for when there is money,ane my daughter has had no success with oetwil am see and the child gets older-we help but don't understand why the authorities don't help=my daughter lives on her invalidenrente so things are tight-any info appreciated-also think that my daughter got off on the wrong foot with the social services in oetwil am see!!!!!!! Will be there in Oct and would like to set up an appointment with one or both of the authorities
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Re: grandma needs help

Thanks for the info, Carmen. I suggest however not to discuss this issue in public - all you'll get is too many, too different opinions that will only puzzle you. Contact me via my website and I'll take care of you and your daughter (or, even better, tell her to contact me directly).
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Old 14.08.2009, 10:41
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Re: grandma needs help

The OP ( Grandma Carmen ) has another thread here that is suitably placed under Family matters.

This section is intended purely for Introductions, and we ask that you continue in that thread there instead or through PM. Thanks for understanding.

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Thanks for the info, Carmen. I suggest however not to discuss this issue in public - all you'll get is too many, too different opinions that will only puzzle you. Contact me via my website and I'll take care of you and your daughter (or, even better, tell her to contact me directly).
Many thanks-have spoken to my daughter and gave her your website and she will contact you directly-perhaps the problem is with oetwil am see and not the jugendsekretariat-had a reply from a woman in Bern who had help for 16 years with her daughter and no problems-something's fishy here-again-many thanks
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Re: grandma needs help

Hm I would not help here!
This is described as the poor little grand daughter in troubles, the victim of a bad guy.

Maybe she hasn't done anything to inform the guy in time he was going to be a father!

She has responsibilities as well, I am sorry I don't mind to offend anyone or start a debate, but in a couple you are two, and communication should be here at all time.

I understand it looks like good feeling (poor grandma trying to help poor grand daughter), but going beyond that, you might be helping a dumb girl who does not take her responsibilities!!

We should not interfere with that, me think!
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...and if if's and and's were pots and pans there'd be no need for tinkers.
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Hm I would not help here!
This is described as the poor little grand daughter in troubles, the victim of a bad guy.

Maybe she hasn't done anything to inform the guy in time he was going to be a father!

She has responsibilities as well, I am sorry I don't mind to offend anyone or start a debate, but in a couple you are two, and communication should be here at all time.

I understand it looks like good feeling (poor grandma trying to help poor grand daughter), but going beyond that, you might be helping a dumb girl who does not take her responsibilities!!

We should not interfere with that, me think!
Grandparents have legal rights. and they can be of valuable help. The quicker grandma gets over there and get as a clearer picture the better for all.

I found the Swiss authorities to be very helpful n this respect, they don't want to have to support a child if it is unnecessary, so they will use all means at their disposal to go after the father.

Good Luck grandma.
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Grandparents have legal rights. and they can be of valuable help.
The bit about being of valuable help I agree with.

However, as far as I know, grandparents only have 'legal rights' similar to any other individual in the country and no extras, such as a right to see their grandchildren or be involved in their upbringing.

This article I found in the Beobachter which is usually right in such matters. It's one of the sad things when a marriage breaks up that the grandparents may be excluded from the life of the grandchildren. However, I'm prepared to be corrected here -I'd be only too glad if it were so.
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The bit about being of valuable help I agree with.

However, as far as I know, grandparents only have 'legal rights' similar to any other individual in the country and no extras, such as a right to see their grandchildren or be involved in their upbringing.

This article I found in the Beobachter which is usually right in such matters. It's one of the sad things when a marriage breaks up that the grandparents may be excluded from the life of the grandchildren. However, I'm prepared to be corrected here -I'd be only too glad if it were so.
You may be right, I wonder where grandma is from. In the UK grandparents have legal rights, but how this works internationally I am not sure.
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You may be right, I wonder where grandma is from. In the UK grandparents have legal rights, but how this works internationally I am not sure.
It's probably less important where the grandmother is as where the children and the parents are.
I only hope the OP can find a way of sorting things out successfully.
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