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Re: Why excercise may not help you lose weight

Exercising has made me lose weight, even with the increased appetite (been eating more meat and carbs). This is weight that I can ill afford to lose unless I want to go for the Victoria Beckham famine-victim-look .

I guess it depends on the person.
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Re: Why excercise may not help you lose weight

Getting back to the OP, diet is important as nowadays we tend to eat overprocessed food, which is very calorie dense. This coupled with the fact that most of us have sitting jobs which limits our movements during the day, it is essential that we take exercise to avoid expanding backsides, or stop eating processed food altogether (quite difficult). As mentioned by several other posters, it is a simple equation: calrories in > calories out = increase in body mass, calories in < calories out = decrease in body mass. So really the ideal situation would be to take exercise AND watch what you eat, ie avoid as much processed (junk) food as possible and try to be active.
I for one LOVE doing sport, I play Rugby, run, do rock climbing, hiking and walk pretty much everywhere I go in town. I eat whatever I want but that tends to be on the 'healthier' side, almost no fried foods, Mac, etc. It's all about finding balance and doing the activites you enjoy.
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Old 10.09.2009, 10:57
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Or perhaps it's because cheetahs only end up eating every couple of days and then rarely finish their meals because of predators such as lions.

Elephants don't seem to do much else apart from eat.
Cheetahs must run hard for their dinner and sometimes dinner escapes. Also a fat cheetah cannot run fast and soon starves to an ideal weight.

Elephants eat and eat. But they eat leaves. Not calorie dense and low conversion rates.
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Going on these two paragraphs I would say that you don't have much chance of losing serious weight if that's how you're viewing the process.
Interesting analysis. Going on these two paragraphs, I would have said that whatever she is doing appears to be working just fine.

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When I think about exercise though, I don't think about that stuff. That's daily routine, right?

On the other hand, I've only started doing that stuff since I've moved here. Thinking back to my weight when I arrived and what I weighed when I saw the doctor this week... I've lost 13kg in the past year.
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Interesting analysis. Going on these two paragraphs, I would have said that whatever she is doing appears to be working just fine.

Thanks MathNut and you're right, that is exactly what visiting the nutritionist / dietitian at the hospital this week helped me see.

The thing that most people tend to overlook or if they don't overlook it they sensationalize it is that it is about changing your lifestyle which means changing your habits.

1. Shop where it doesn't make sense to do any other way than to walk.
Thankfully that is MUCH easier to do in this climate than it was in Florida. Theoretically I could have walked to the grocery there, it was only maybe 2 miles or so but at 95F and 100% humidity, who wants to do that, really? It is so much nicer to make the trip in a nice comfortable air conditioned car.
Meanwhile, I could take the tram to shop here but choose not to.

2. Take the stairs rather than the lift or escalator, even when one is available.
At home this isn't even a choice for me, I only have the stairs. Visiting mum-in-law now or going to the grocery, I take the stairs rather than lift or escalator, when stairs are available.


These small changes are all I have done. I have not changed my eating habits as I have food allergies and other issues that actually help keep me from indulging in some of the worst offenses.

With these small changes I have lost 13kg in the past year. I don't think that's too bad... and the doctor actually says that is GOOD because more rapid changes tend to be short-term only.
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Or perhaps it's because cheetahs only end up eating every couple of days and then rarely finish their meals because of predators such as lions.

Elephants don't seem to do much else apart from eat.
That was the kind of point I was trying to make. If you eat meat, you dont feel hungry for a while, whereas if you eat light then you feel the urge to eat often or tendency to snack.

Sometimes even lions dont get to finish their meals because of predators such as pack of wild dogs or hyennas.

Personally if I have one proper meal with plentyful meat in a day, Im good for 24 hours.
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Re: Why excercise may not help you lose weight

Oh PEG! I have PCOS too .
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That was the kind of point I was trying to make. If you eat meat, you dont feel hungry for a while, whereas if you eat light then you feel the urge to eat often or tendency to snack.

Sometimes even lions dont get to finish their meals because of predators such as pack of wild dogs or hyennas.

Personally if I have one proper meal with plentyful meat in a day, Im good for 24 hours.
I would say it depends on the person. Last night I had two pork chops, a good dollop of mashed potato and as much butternut squash and sweetcorn as I could stuff in.

This morning I was ravenous again and had two Weetabix and three bits of toast and marmalade.

I have weighed between 55 and 57 kilos all my adult life.
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Cheetahs must run hard for their dinner and sometimes dinner escapes. Also a fat cheetah cannot run fast and soon starves to an ideal weight.

Elephants eat and eat. But they eat leaves. Not calorie dense and low conversion rates.
I think a lot of people are confused by the Calorie thing. A full English breakfast has half the calories then a muffin and an orange juice.

Though the sight of sausages, beans and fried eggs would make the Diet conscious people quiver and rather opt for a blueberry muffin and a latte at some cafe and then complain why they cant loose weight
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I would say it depends on the person. Last night I had two pork chops, a good dollop of mashed potato and as much butternut squash and sweetcorn as I could stuff in.

This morning I was ravenous again and had two Weetabix and three bits of toast and marmalade.

I have weighed between 55 and 57 kilos all my adult life.
Oh gosh.. You eat too much )

Sorry, I didnt mean I only have 1 meal in a day, but 1 proper meal and then light breakfast and lunch.. and still wont feel like snacking.

2 weetabix and 2 bits of (swiss) toast when you're ravenous, what do you do when you're not really hungry, breath air?
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I think a lot of people are confused by the Calorie thing. A full English breakfast has half the calories then a muffin and an orange juice.

Though the sight of sausages, beans and fried eggs would make the Diet conscious people quiver and rather opt for a blueberry muffin and a latte at some cafe and then complain why they cant loose weight
A bit OT but for people with diabetes or PCOS (who have increased levels of insulin) a full english breakfast is a lot healthier that the muffin...I miss muffins though

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A bit OT but for people with diabetes or PCOS (who have increased levels of insulin) a full englis breakfast is a lot healthier that the muffin...I miss muffins though
OT for an OT... whats your favourite muffin, chocolate chip muffin, blueberry muffin or stud muffin?
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A bit OT but for people with diabetes or PCOS (who have increased levels of insulin) a full englis breakfast is a lot healthier that the muffin...I miss muffins though
Can't beat a full English breakfast. Kills a hangover, too.
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Oh gosh.. You eat too much )

Sorry, I didnt mean I only have 1 meal in a day, but 1 proper meal and then light breakfast and lunch.. and still wont feel like snacking.

2 weetabix and 2 bits of (swiss) toast when you're ravenous, what do you do when you're not really hungry, breath air?
The point was that everybody is different. What fills me up and keeps my weight stable might either cause someone else to be an overweight tubster or someone else to keel over with hunger.
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I have weighed between 55 and 57 kilos all my adult life.
Apart from pregnancy, I was about 58 until I was 58 years old. At the age of 59, I was 59 kg; at the age of 60 it crept up to 60, by my 61st birthday it was 61, then at 62, it was 62, at 63 it had nastily sneaked an extra kilo up to 63 kg and my mother lived to be 92. No wonder I worry...
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Apart from pregnancy, I was about 58 until I was 58 years old. At the age of 59, I was 59 kg; at the age of 60 it crept up to 60, by my 61st birthday it was 61, then at 62, it was 62, at 63 it had nastily sneaked an extra kilo up to 63 kg and my mother lived to be 92. No wonder I worry...
That must be a new phenomenon, "The Birthday Kilo".
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Re: Why excercise may not help you lose weight

Another thing to bear in mind is that cells in human body, die, break and regenrate on daily basis.

So its important to eat good food with plenty of good quality proteins (meat ) so that the new regenrated cells are healthy, otherwise you age quicker, skin sags etc etc.

Excercise is surely over rated!
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OT for an OT... whats your favourite muffin, chocolate chip muffin, blueberry muffin or stud muffin?
I already have my stud (read stuffed) muffin . Bu tmy favourites are: Blueberry and vanilla/poppy seed...talk about addictive!
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Muffins are the devil's food... 600 calories and you still feel hungry
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I already have my stud (read stuffed) muffin . Bu tmy favourites are: Blueberry and vanilla/poppy seed...talk about addictive!
Not bad.. I like the double chocolate and white chocolate/raspberry muff in!

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