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I have hay fever and allergic asthma here in Switzerland, where I grew up. I don't have any such problem in Michigan, USA or in Greece. On the other hand, my American Better Half (ABH) has all sorts of allergies (mould, possibly dust mites, maybe wood preservatives in her house), which disappear within weeks as soon as she comes to Switzerland. Even her frequent rashes are no issue here.

There is one strange phenomenon, though: Whenever she comes to Switzerland, she has pretty bad water retention (ankles, wrists etc.). Granted, she is overweight, but here she feels really bloated. First we thought it's caused by the lack of physical movement during the long flight, but it doesn't go aways even after three months. Then she flies back, and it's gone after a week or two.

No, it's not psychological, I mean just because she sees far fewer people of her size here compared with the USA. Granted, that might make her feel fatter. But the swelling is clearly visible. So far, no doctor has been able to explain this.
Could it be the altitude/barometric pressure?
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Could it be the altitude/barometric pressure?
Thanks for the suggestion, but she has the water retention here at 400 m above sea level, and she still has it after several months. Then she goes back to her 200 m altitude in the northeastern Midwest and it abates. I'm a surgeon, but I've never heard of anybody retaining water because of a change by 200 meters.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but she has the water retention here at 400 m above sea level, and she still has it after several months. Then she goes back to her 200 m altitude in the northeastern Midwest and it abates. I'm a surgeon, but I've never heard of anybody retaining water because of a change by 200 meters.
Clearly that cannot be a factor.
There are some that claim that your brain does play tricks on your body. It is a bit coucou and new age and frankly I don't know what to make of it, but I have back pain when I am in the US and when I get to Switzerland, my back pain vanishes and is replaced by allergies. It never fails.
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is it humidity ? What's the normal humidity 'back home' compared to Switzerland ?

Drinking plenty of fluids is important for resolving fluid retention - I found it took several months of living here before I learned to drink enough water.

The other possibility is the fluid retention is allergy-related. I am seriously allergic to Sodium Benzoate (preservative 220) and it's in heaps of things here - I had a nasty reaction that I thought was post-airplane, then realised it was from drinking the kids 'sirup'...oops....I have to be really careful here...read the labels all the time etc...
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Re: Eczema - Allergies worsening?

My eczema has disappeared since we moved here I think it might have to do with a different diet, different humidity, less pollution etc. I had it for years, but it went out of control when I relocated to Brazil, it was so bad that I felt there was no other option than to move back to a place with lower humidity. Thankfully, the plan worked out.

However, I did develop mild hayfever here but I prefer it to the eczema!
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is it humidity ? What's the normal humidity 'back home' compared to Switzerland ?

Drinking plenty of fluids is important for resolving fluid retention - I found it took several months of living here before I learned to drink enough water.

The other possibility is the fluid retention is allergy-related. I am seriously allergic to Sodium Benzoate (preservative 220) and it's in heaps of things here - I had a nasty reaction that I thought was post-airplane, then realised it was from drinking the kids 'sirup'...oops....I have to be really careful here...read the labels all the time etc...
Northwestern Lower Michigan and northeastern Switzerland are very similar as to humidity. Winters are colder and summers are shorter in Michigan, but the rest is pretty much the same. Not drinking enough water is no issue either.

Allergies probably are the only reasonable explanation, but we haven't zeroed in on specific allergens yet. Once I kept her six weeks on home-made spelt bread, fresh fruit and veggies, some organic meat and eggs from local farms, pure tap water, once in a while some fruit tea, no diary products, no wheat, no processed food. Result: Zilch, i.e. water retention as before.
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Eczema - soap changed to Lubex here - much better than ordinary soaps.
Lubex is actually not recommended to use all the time, we had to watch out with it with our kid, since it does have a desinfectant agent. I was told by a dermatologist to use Lubex only when troubles are acting up, otherwise just plain water. Or was it Procutol? I can't remember.

I had a period of exzema on my back just when I moved here (normally have zero allergies or skin troubles), it was in winter and the water really dried my skin. I use shower oils instead of shower gel, gels dry skin massively. My skin is much drier here than back home, I try to shower for max 5mins and use as natural moisturizers as possible. I avoid aluminum deodorants, L'occitaine makes a terrific Verbena one.

Pig fat is the best for exzema, I know it sounds nasty, but lard (home made from pork) is one of the best for skin, it is the closest to natural human skin oils, if one can get over the rediculousness of the idea
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Re: Eczema - Allergies worsening?

My allergies are much better here than they were in Florida... trees, hay and flowers are bad, mold and dust even worse.

Mold isn't a particular problem in my apartment, dust on the other hand... I could dust two or three times a day and still not pass a "white glove" test.

Tree pollen from certain pine trees is bad, the worst ever was in Texas but some similar pine is here and in the fall gives me issues when it pollinates but right now isn't it... outside allergies are alright for the moment.

Some of the shower gels I've tried are bad also, I like how they smell but apparently, my sensitivity to eating melons and cucumbers extends to getting a rash if I use gels with this scent.


Meanwhile, the newer allergy medicines don't work so well for me, even if they help my allergy issues, the side effects make it not worth it. I keep going back to the tried-and-true combination of pseudoephedrine (sinueses) and chlorpheniramine (anti-histamine). These can make me drowsy to be sure but they don't make me get blindingly angry for "no reason" like some of the others did.

For the rashes, the nurse at my gynie here recommended Excipial Pruri Lotio when I had dry skin and rash on my legs while pregnant. It worked pretty well and isn't greasy (I really can not stand having greasy or sticky feeling skin)... hubby used it on his fingers when his new-found eczema acted up. I also changed soaps, as much as I love the cucumber / melon smelling soaps, it's not worth the itch.
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Thanks for the responses. I see that a few of you have experienced a worsening in your skin allergies.

Eczema
Personally, my eczema has seriously flared out of control since coming to live here . I've noticed I only get an attack around the time when seasons change. Can any of you suggest any body hydrants, shampoos, soap, dietary changes etc which I can try out? I am drinking Migros bottled water instead of tap water. For soap I use the green Pruri-Med. For shampoo I use Elvive anti-dandruff. And I've always used eco-friendly washing liquid for my clothes. No softener since this contains enzymes. To treat the ezcema I've been using Optiderm, Tacrolimus/Protopic & Parfenac. Not very effective. I recently bought an air purifier/ioniser. Am thinking to buy a humidifier to tackle the dry air problem

Hay Fever
I was told that I am allergic to tree pollen which explains why my attacks occur in March/April and it always comes with a vengeange . Third generation antihistamines barely contain my symptoms but I've managed to struggle through so far.

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I'm happy to say that my asthma severity has not changed as compared to London
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have you tried weleda soaps/creams? they seemed ok for my son when he had problems...also i second the acupuncture - it works wonders!
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I'm already using soaps and lotions prescribed by the Dermatologist so I think that's taken care of. The dermatologist also mentioned the option of laser treatment for extreme eczema. Has anyone tried this?

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I tried that many years ago when I was living in London. I ended up having diarrheoa and my water retention became bad. Granted that different doctors, different outcomes but I think I will keep that as a last option given my past gleeful experiences

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I'm already using soaps and lotions prescribed by the Dermatologist so I think that's taken care of. The dermatologist also mentioned the option of laser treatment for extreme eczema. Has anyone tried this?
I would not go for it, but don't know enough about this.

I know this will also sound silly, but I would try to go without a shower for a week or two (just give yourself a proper "catbath" and change clothes frequently) if you can make yourself, since there has been a time it really helped me.

Then I'd try a week with no coffee and black tea, no alcohol, chocolate, etc. Then a week without fresh fruits and vegetables, then a week without dairy or nuts, etc. One can change the allergens that the body is responsive without knowing, but I am sure all allergic people are complete pros at this.

Watch out for preservatives in processed food, msg, artificial sweeteners (I'll run before I catch a flak here for this, haha), art., food coloring and other E numbers.

I would also quit using chemicals for cleaning (tips) or check with whoever is cleaning your place (toss that toilet thingie that hangs in people's toilet bowl, it disposes aerosol into the air or always flush with the lid down), toss any air fresheners (febreeze, car "trees", essential oils, insence, plug in gadgets and sprays, the aerosol is certainly not healthy), get rid off perfumes and colones and make yourself smell nice with a linen bag of lavander, herbs or a natural soap in your dresser. Welleda is awesome.

Quit at dry cleaners (you do not know what the residues in your clothes are), quit using fabric softeners, try a baby laundry detergent, try a natural tooth paste too. I would investigate in what my floor is made of and carpets (check for formaldehyde that is a big environmental trigger) and furniture, some other home wood products contain this. Check for safe plastic products in your home (do not microwave in plastic, etc.) and get yourself a safe drinking bottle (ie Sigg with non bisphenol lining). Move any electronic gadgets (tv, pc, fan, etc) away from your bedroom.

Ugh. I know, it's a nuissance. But just a little food for thought..

I also realized I did have a flare up of seborhoic dermatitis once and what really helped was a mixture that had natural tar in it. I bet a dermatologist here would know. I had the affected areas painted with Genciana violet and then put the tar ointment on over night with plastic compress on top, it worked wonders I had my skin clear within 2wks ( I did smell like asphalt road, true, tiny bit).
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Re: Eczema - Allergies worsening?

Thanks for everybody's reponses. You've all given me a few ideas to try out. The most obvious big changes are the hard water and dry air - unfortunately I can only lessen the effects by drinking more bottled water and investing in a humidifier. Diet is also something that's changed so I'll try to test out some of the advices given, although I'm pondering whether I should put up with the eczema or the torture of dietary self-deprivation!!
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My eczema (I have multiple kinds, yeah for me!) generally does whatever it wants. I do notice that winter usually makes it worse for me, because of the dry heater air. I haven't experienced winter here in Switzerland yet, so we'll see how that goes. Seeing how my skin is right now though, I don't have much hope for the coming season though.

I think foods are a trigger sometimes. I used to try and eat only organic, but with a tighter budget nowadays, that's not an option anymore. However, I do recommend talking to a doctor if it gets too annoying for some new meds. I got some lovely high strength steroids that help take that ever annoying itch away.
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My son had bad eczema since he was 1 week old (this is back in cali). We tried homeopath, although we dont know if its homeopath that fixed it or just time, he grew out of it after a year and a half. BUT
just a month before moving to switzerland, his eczema started up again (though not as bad as initially). And we have been here now 2 weeks, and its completely GONE. I mean completely cleared, its amazing. So the environment here in switzerland is much better for my son compared to california.
Also we have been using the waleda (yellow tube) cream on his eczema since he had it first time. That cream does wonders aswell.

[quote=MarkL2005;568190]Thanks for the responses. I see that a few of you have experienced a worsening in your skin allergies.

Eczema
Personally, my eczema has seriously flared out of control since coming to live here . I've noticed I only get an attack around the time when seasons change. Can any of you suggest any body hydrants, shampoos, soap, dietary changes etc which I can try out? I am drinking Migros bottled water instead of tap water. For soap I use the green Pruri-Med. For shampoo I use Elvive anti-dandruff. And I've always used eco-friendly washing liquid for my clothes. No softener since this contains enzymes. To treat the ezcema I've been using Optiderm, Tacrolimus/Protopic & Parfenac. Not very effective. I recently bought an air purifier/ioniser. Am thinking to buy a humidifier to tackle the dry air problem
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Re: Eczema - Allergies worsening?

You poor thing!!.......has anybody tried homeopathy?? I've been to a homeopath now since 2years, and she has helped me with my hayfever, sinusitis, and nausea. Homeopathy is greet for kids too, you can cure a sore throat overnight!
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I typically don't have skin problems, but when I came down with a bizarre viral rash two weeks ago, all I could think about was Aveeno bath! I was surprised that this staple of my American childhood is virtually unknown in the land of Homeopathic everything I now call home. After several trips to various stores, this is the solution...
The organic food store Höheners on Schuetzenmatstrasse in Basel has a flour mill/grinder. They happily ground 3 kilos of bio oats into flour for me at no additional charge. That is roughly 6 pounds of Aveeno for about $25, or 42 rappen a bath! I explained the basic science behind this beneficial treatment to the lady who ran the grinder. She said she is going to try a "Hafermehlbad" for herself.
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I typically don't have skin problems, but when I came down with a bizarre viral rash two weeks ago, all I could think about was Aveeno bath! I was surprised that this staple of my American childhood is virtually unknown in the land of Homeopathic everything I now call home. After several trips to various stores, this is the solution...
The organic food store Höheners on Schuetzenmatstrasse in Basel has a flour mill/grinder. They happily ground 3 kilos of bio oats into flour for me at no additional charge. That is roughly 6 pounds of Aveeno for about $25, or 42 rappen a bath! I explained the basic science behind this beneficial treatment to the lady who ran the grinder. She said she is going to try a "Hafermehlbad" for herself.
I know for sure Aveeno is sold in Europe (in France and Germany, I have seen it, although the spelling of the name was a bit different, I can't recall at all right now exactly what the name was). It is sold here as it is a Johnson's and Johnson's product and they are well established I think in all European countries. I will post it here if I remember the product name or see it in the pharmacies over the border. It would not surprise me if it was sold in CH as well.

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[quote=Chakday;576214]My son had bad eczema since he was 1 week old (this is back in cali). We tried homeopath, although we dont know if its homeopath that fixed it or just time, he grew out of it after a year and a half. BUT
just a month before moving to switzerland, his eczema started up again (though not as bad as initially). And we have been here now 2 weeks, and its completely GONE. I mean completely cleared, its amazing. So the environment here in switzerland is much better for my son compared to california.
Also we have been using the waleda (yellow tube) cream on his eczema since he had it first time. That cream does wonders aswell.

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Personally, my eczema has seriously flared out of control since coming to live here . I've noticed I only get an attack around the time when seasons change. Can any of you suggest any body hydrants, shampoos, soap, dietary changes etc which I can try out? I am drinking Migros bottled water instead of tap water. For soap I use the green Pruri-Med. For shampoo I use Elvive anti-dandruff. And I've always used eco-friendly washing liquid for my clothes. No softener since this contains enzymes. To treat the ezcema I've been using Optiderm, Tacrolimus/Protopic & Parfenac. Not very effective. I recently bought an air purifier/ioniser. Am thinking to buy a humidifier to tackle the dry air problem
Wring out a thick wet towel and drape it over the radiators ....... easy and cheap way to humidify the heated air. Recommended by our Swiss Grossi and it works!
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