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Adenoidectomy

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we have an operations tomorrow for taking out the adenoids, also mendalens in Männendofr Spital.
They say its a normal one, not so difficult. My son is 3 y.o. Well, first im more close to agree on the first part of the operation but do not touch the Mendalens.
If someone had a similar experience also may be someone knows Spital in Männendorf, ill appriciate any info.
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Re: Adenoidectomy

I don't know what 'mendalens' are ?

I am guessing 'Tonsils and Adenoids' ? They are often taken out at the same time...

Is it for breathing difficulties, repeated infection, speech problems, or snoring ?

I can understand your apprehension- it's very scary having a child go to hospital, for whatever reason, and even if you are *certain* that it's the right thing to do...

It really is something to discuss with your doctor...
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Re: Adenoidectomy

You are right, and as per doctors opinion its better to take them out together, but at the same time i am not sure about the side effect of this operation if both are taken out.
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Old 31.01.2010, 19:34
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Re: Adenoidectomy

I really wish you would have a alternative, it seems that adenoids and tonsils play an important part in the first line of the bodies defense system, maybe they are not as important today as they were at the dawn of humanity but it seem that they still play their part. Maybe some doctor could confirm or deny.
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Re: Adenoidectomy

My feeling is that it's not any worse to do both together, than to do one and not the other...it's still surgery, general anesthetic and all the issues of side-effects...

I'm curious to know the reason for removal ?
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Re: Adenoidectomy

tounsils are to be removed as they are very big, almost touching eachother.
Adenoids to be taken out as my son does not breath well, and if you ll see/hear him sleeping you ll bring him next morning to the hospital. Its just suffering.
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Re: Adenoidectomy

Sounds to me like surgery is the right decision...

My cousin's daughter slept very poorly, snored constantly and spoke very unclearly...before surgery...

after the surgery she slept much better, did not snore, and her speech was very clear....it was a very obvious improvement...

So, hope it goes very well. Will be thinking of you, and try to get some rest and be as calm as possible for your child. The hardest part will be post-operation when they are connected to drips and things, and can't really understand what is happening. Fingers crossed your child has no problems with feeling sick afterwards - both my children were very well after general anaesthetic and didn't get sick or anything..

Watch out for bleeding down the throat - if your child seems unwell after surgery, in pain or uncomfortable, make sure you keep asking the doctor/nurses to make sure it is all OK - you know your child better than anyone...a mother's instinct is usually good
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Re: Adenoidectomy

We had both taken out of our son as he had sleep apnoea as a result of enlarged tonsils and adenoids. Every morning he woke up like he'd been running a marathon. Basically the child (or adult for that matter) cannot breathe properly, they struggle for each breath which is very tiring and (can) cause developmental problems if left untreated due to improper oxygenation.

In theory, a child should grow out of the problem, but sometimes they don't and the operation is indicated.

That was our case. The operation was fine, although recovery was delayed as he picked up a rotavirus infection. But I think his poor reaction to that was primarily due to ill health (because of the sleep apnoea) than the operation and the fact that he had difficulty eating after the operation, so was unable to recover his strength.

He now sleeps soundlessly (a good sign) as he had real difficulties before.

As an asside; I had mine taken out (routine back in those days) and I've never had a problem. My wife on the other hand still has hers and has frequent bouts of tonsilitis... you just never know!

But in my opinion they are about as useful as your appendix (which I've also had taken out, as it happens ) - i.e. not very.
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Dear all,
we have an operations tomorrow for taking out the adenoids, also mendalens in Männendofr Spital.
They say its a normal one, not so difficult. My son is 3 y.o. Well, first im more close to agree on the first part of the operation but do not touch the Mendalens.
If someone had a similar experience also may be someone knows Spital in Männendorf, ill appriciate any info.
Thanks.
Experience has taught me that you have to trust your doctor. If you are unsure, you get a second or third opinion from another doctor.

I don't know the hospital, but just to put your mind at ease, one of our kids had both his adenoids and tonsils removed. His adenoids were enormous ("trophy size" was the doctor's expression) and affected his breathing. He was slighly older than your son. For the patient, the throat is very sore afterwards and they tend not to want to drink but drinking is really important. How long is the hospital stay to be?
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Re: Adenoidectomy

I had my tonsils taken out a few years ago, and it will help him
in the long run. His sleep will be better.

The downside is that it will hurt for about a week.

Like the other person said, be particulary wary of bleeding!
If so, call a doctor immediately.
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I don't know anything about the operation itself, but the hospital is lovely: Attentive, multilingual medical staff, good quality food and lovely lake views for when you need distraction.

I had such a lovely time there, I nearly took to licking door handles to get myself sent back in.

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Re: Adenoidectomy

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I don't know anything about the operation itself, but the hospital is lovely: Attentive, multilingual medical staff, good quality food and lovely lake views for when you need distraction.

I had such a lovely time there, I nearly took to licking door handles to get myself sent back in.

If you like it so much, no problem ,meet me in front of the emergency.I brake your frocking jaw OK OK just kidding
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Re: Adenoidectomy

I had them out when I was about 6. Can't remember the reason, probably breathing difficulties as well.

I can remember going in for the operation. The anesthetist told me to close my eyes, I felt a small prick in my arm, and then I was asked to count to 10. I remember getting to 4, and then nothing - that must have been some seriously good "substance" I got, and on the NHS as well

The next memory I have is waking up, and then promptly vomiting what looked like blood all over my father who was sitting at my bedside. This continued for next hour or 2 although now my father had provided me with a receptacle to vomit into - he was never one to be caught out twice . Looking back on this now I realize at the age of 6 was having the worst hangover I was ever going to have in my life. Everything after this has in fact been child's play by comparison. I Don't really remember too much after that other than being dragged reluctantly back to school 2 weeks later.

This was back in the mid 70's, and even then it was considered a routine operation. I believe that the anesthetics and medical techniques have improved greatly since then so it should be a smoother ride for your child.

Really I don't think there is anything to get overly concerned about. On the scale of things it's a relatively minor operation.
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Re: Adenoidectomy

It's so scary when a little one has to have surgery. Whether or not it is 'routine' is irrelevant when it comes to the fear that lingers in the pit of your stomach. However, my personal experience with this operation has been good.

My nephew had his tonsils and adenoids removed at age 3.5. Prior to the operation he had a lot of infections and difficulty breathing and sleeping. The entire family was prepared for a week+ long recovery. We were armed with transformers, ice cream, popsicles, movies, etc. In the end, the little guy woke up from the anesthesia, took one look at us and said, "My throat feels funny but I'm hungry." His recovery period took about 3 days. He was a champ and these days...sleeps better, breathes better and has fewer infections. If you ask him about it (he's 5 now) he has no idea to what you're referring.

Additionally, I had my tonsils and adenoids removed when I was 10. Again, it was an easy operation. My recovery took a bit longer, as it often does the older you get, but in the end my health improved and I was so thankful to not have tonsillitis all the time. I will, however, note that after having my tonsils removed...the infections (though not nearly as frequent) tended to find their way to my bronchial tubes as the first line of defense (tonsils) had been taken away. Regardless, when you're a kid...less frequent infections = way better quality of life...so I was happy that I had the surgery.

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The hardest part will be post-operation when they are connected to drips and things, and can't really understand what is happening.
At 4.5 years, my daughter had her adenoids removed but not the tonsils. Reason for surgery was chronic (I mean really chronic) ear infections over a two year period which would not stop. They also drained the fluid from her ears at the same time. I think it took about 20 minutes. Tonsils were not removed because she never really had problems with throat infections, but the 6 year girl in the bed next to my daughter was there for a second time to get the tonsils removed -- her parents wished they had done it together a few years earlier.

Anyway, I fully agree with the statement above re: the post-op recovery. It was difficult for me to see her in an "intoxicated" state, not really knowing what was going on, confused, etc and I focused on seeing her through the next 45 minutes until the medication wore off...but then everything was fine. By the way, she kept asking for water during this critical period and the nurse finally relented by giving her a thimbleful after I sort of insisted. Bad move, as then she vomited straight-away!

But I do not regret the surgery for a second as she rarely has problems anymore and if so, it's not as big a deal as before. Good luck, everything will be fine and it will surely make a difference for your child.
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We had both taken out of our son as he had sleep apnoea as a result of enlarged tonsils and adenoids. Every morning he woke up like he'd been running a marathon. .......

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That was our case. The operation was fine, although recovery was delayed
i had this operation when i was 22 (ish? or 21?)

anyway, right after the operation he may feel very very weak.

but after a few weeks, absolutely on top of the world!

if he has been sick for a while, then the cause is gone - it is like the blue sky coming out again after a very long winter.
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I will, however, note that after having my tonsils removed...the infections (though not nearly as frequent) tended to find their way to my bronchial tubes as the first line of defense (tonsils) had been taken away.
I want to point exactly the same, for some people, the lack of the natural guard means that they will progressively develop respiratory problems. Not everyone, though. Mom had hers removed at 10, in her 40s she noticed how much more frequently she got bronchitis, now in her 60s it slowly progressed to continuous couch and asthma. The procedure is no longer routinely done back home, exactly for those reasons, or - the causes, current discomfort and risks are carefully assessed.
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Re: Adenoidectomy

My daughter had her tonsils and adenoids removed in December 2008. She was almost 4. She had had sleep apnea and, once the cause was established, the surgery was treated as 'moderately urgent'.

She stayed in hospital only one night and the recovery period took another 15 days or so. They explained to us that the only dangerous complication was bleeding and that it was exceedingly rare. She recovered with no complications.

Our life changed completely about 6 months after the surgery. It takes some time apparently for tissue swelling to sompletely subside and for sleep patterns to change following surgery. It was the end of years of sleepless nights (she used to wake up screaming every hour). I hope your experience will be the same.
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i had this operation when i was 22 (ish? or 21?)

anyway, right after the operation he may feel very very weak.

but after a few weeks, absolutely on top of the world!

if he has been sick for a while, then the cause is gone - it is like the blue sky coming out again after a very long winter.
It also affected his eating as he couldn't taste anything. My wife was nearly in tears the first few times he ate, as he was literally rediscovering flavours - as in "is this what banana ice cream tastes like...?" and "mmm that smells/tastes really nice!"

He's still a fussy eater though, but much better than before and getting better each month (although maybe he's just growing up )
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It also affected his eating as he couldn't taste anything.
yep - i could no longer eat *seriously* hot curries.
i had lost my status

but i got really fit after that
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