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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

The problem with these threads is that the women who had lovely birth's without mere never post because they are accused by others of having a "holier than thou " attitude and making other women feel bad. The truth is many women have very pleasant births without drugs. I believe most women go into birth expecting and hoping for rainbows and sunshine (whether from drugs or not) and when it doesn't happen they feel it is their job to warn others. This is great but to pregnant women it comes across as fear mongering. I had two wonderful births and can say it wasn't as bad as for me personally as others warned.
For the record they were both in the US and my water broke without contractions so I had pit both times. Labor was only 12 hours thanks to pit so admittedly no long term suffering. I had episiotomy with first (who was significantly smaller) but not second. Also in full disclosure I am terrified of needles so having one go into my back is not appealing no matter the pain . What I am trying to say is that anything is possible and be prepared for anything. We need to celebrate birth not the process getting there. We all need to be more supportive of our individual choices and remember what is good for me is not likely best for you. Best wishes to those that want to give birth without drugs, it is possible, and pleasant births to those of you opting in for Medea.
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Wow auto correct really doesn't like the word : meds please insert appropriately in above post
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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

It's just the unexpected that should be considered.
A back-up plan in case.

As a healthy 27 year old, nothing prepared me, at the time, to have a breech baby so tangled up in his cord he could never have turned any way, and maternal haemorrage with placenta abruptio, at 8 months of gestation.
We had little time, the midwife was totally incompetent, the surgeon saved our lives.

True many women have lovely births, some have incredible courage to have their babies at home.
Thank goodness that they remain the majority.

I wouldn't wish for any young mama to live through a difficult birth and personally I both enjoy and encourage lovely stories to be shared so that young expectant mothers feel reassured.
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Thanks for sharing Sky! I think they way you just told your story is constructive as opposed to creating fear. I think we sometimes forget how others hear our stories. They can feel our pain, anger, and fear... none of which is helpful as they prepare for their experience. Yay for being mothers -no matter how we got here (lets not forget women who adopt are also moms!) Having said this, if you did not have pain relief while giving birth in CH then you really have nothing to offer to this discussion but best wishes and congratulations. Lets not tear each other down
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Thanks for sharing Sky! I think they way you just told your story is constructive as opposed to creating fear. I think we sometimes forget how others hear our stories. They can feel our pain, anger, and fear... none of which is helpful as they prepare for their experience. Yay for being mothers -no matter how we got here (lets not forget women who adopt are also moms!) Having said this, if you did not have pain relief while giving birth in CH then you really have nothing to offer to this discussion but best wishes and congratulations. Lets not tear each other down
I'd love to know the real statistics when it comes to giving birth including:
- natural birth
- natural birth with an epidural
- complicated birth (instruments needed)
- C-Section

To be honest, in my circle of friends, I don't know of anyone who didn't have an epidural and about half have had C-sections.
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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

Ah tis about pain relief.... but not only

The depth of this discussion is far more than meets the eye.

Belly dancing..
An ancient Persian tribal dance performed by the expectant mother to physically position the baby and ease the way to an optimal birth.
As she danced in the presence of women only, she would have been encouraged and reassured by the other women who had been there before her.

This discussion is the same in many ways.
We're just using the tools of our society and era, to help and reassure the young mothers among us.
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All I can say is I'm pretty scared sh@tless now after reading all these comments.

Having my first in October and I'm hoping that I can cope with the pain and that everything goes ok.

I walk everyday, do yoga sporadically and ensure I eat well so i haven't overdone the weight.

I trust the experience of people who have gone through it themselves though.

Let's hope I can tell my own tale in October.
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Old 05.08.2012, 22:16
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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

Don't overthink it. Giving birth is an adventure and there many good people around you to help you through it.

Prepare yourself and then go with the flow....

Whatever happens, the outcome will be worth it. In fact, you'll gladly go through it again once you've held your baby in your arms. My two teenagers are laughing in the living room and are the light of my life.
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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

I disagree. A women who has given birth without any pain relief can give her experience of how she coped with the pain, what techniques she used, how she prepared etc. The only thing not welcome, in my opinion, is any women putting another down for choosing another way to get through giving birth.

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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

How many posts until I can thank someone?

Sky your analogy is wonderful.

Olygirl you are right that one needs to relinquish control during birth and go with the flow. This is easier when you feel confident in doing so and you trust those around you (birth partner, doctors and nurses) .

Other poster who is pregnant whose handle I can't remember you will have a tale to tell. And it will be *your* tale. Do not fear birth but know that you cannot control it. Enjoy creating *your* experience. Learning to roll with the punches will make parenting easier Imho
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I disagree. A women who has given birth without any pain relief can give her experience of how she coped with the pain, what techniques she used, how she prepared etc. The only thing not welcome, in my opinion, is any women putting another down for choosing another way to get through giving birth.
Good point Lou! If the moms to be are considering no pain mere then this is a welcome addition.
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I'd love to know the real statistics when it comes to giving birth including:
- natural birth
- natural birth with an epidural
- complicated birth (instruments needed)
- C-Section
The problem with any "real" statistics lies with c-section rates, imo. Most women who go through c-sections are still women for whom it is medically necessary. Therefore, any complications of those births could have derived from either the c-section itself, or from the condition that made the c-section necessary, thus skewing results vs. the other categories mentioned.

Like Drea, I have walked every day, practiced yoga, used my birthing ball, have eaten properly, and done pretty much everything I could to ensure a healthy pregnancy and to ensure a healthy weight gain for myself and my child.

I did everything I could to prepare for natural birth, as that was my wish.
In the end, however, I have been scheduled for a c-section due to placenta previa. Personally, I am not happy about having to do it this way, but at the same time I am not willing to risk the health of my baby, or my life, to bring him into this world. What good would it do to fight to have a natural birth if I wouldn't be here to raise him afterward because I hemorrhaged to death?

Perhaps doctors are more conservative these days and use c-section more often rather than allowing the mother to try natural birth first, but they are using a tool available to them to ensure that their patient gets the best care. This is one reason why it is very important to have a caregiver that you trust, and that has a philosophy that is close to your own. I trust my doctor 100%, because over the years he has proven to me that he doesn't just push for the easy (surgical) solution first. He does everything he can do until it gets to that point, which is something that I appreciate immensely.
EDIT: Doctors also will use c-section first, instead of allowing to try childbirth because having an EMERGENCY c-section is much more complicated than a planned one, and can be more dangerous.

The best advice, already given here on this thread many times, is to be prepared for anything. Having a birthing plan is wonderful (no matter which route you choose), but be prepared (mentally) if situations arise that take your plans right out the window.
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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

I think it's good to keep in mind that there's a process here. So different parts of labor will be manageable and others may be harder. Once I was dilated to ten cm and ready to push, my experience was really positive. Of course it was still painful but it was very fast for me. A few pushes and he was out.

One of the reasons women like to avoid an epidural is because it's associated with so many interventions. Yet for me, I had none. The point I wanted to bring to this thread is that medical pain relief is not synonymous with interventions and a bad delivery. Indeed, the exact opposite is true in that it can facilitate a good delivery. It can turn what's naturally going terribly and make it positive. To me, there's a lot of fear mongering about meds and my point in this thread was to show that they can make a bad labor good.

It's been said before that every labor is different. But I hope that the push for med-free doesn't compromise what's right. And med-free is definitely not right for every birth. I believe that meds are responsible for preventing interventions in my situation, whilst avoiding them would have resulted in numerous ones.

P.S. See http://www.spinningbabies.com/ None of these techniques worked to turn my baby but I know others who've had success. It's good to be aware of how position can influence labor, particularly as you can change it before the birth. And for me, if I'd not been subjected to all the scare mongering about meds along with the badge of honor bit, I'd probably have accepted the epidural a lot earlier and avoided a lot of unnecessary suffering. So next baby, I will be far less worried if he or she is posterior. I'll do the same exercises but at least know I can take an epidural and it's okay to do so.

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I had my baby in Australia and went totally natural. Thanks to some great tips from a hypno birthing book and another book called "birthing skills", it was an awesome experience! My midwife told me that when mothers in labour request gas, they just give them the mouth piece but don't turn the gas on and only turn it on/up if needed. Often it's enough just to control the breathing!
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Re: Pain relief during childbirth?

[QUOTE=darkhorsedrea;1626891]All I can say is I'm pretty scared sh@tless now after reading all these comments. QUOTE]


Hi darkhorsedrea, I think every women is scared sh@tless when they think about how baby is going to come out. I was and even more so at the end, I kept saying to my partner that it was going to be really painful and I was worried about it, not very much that he could do about though.
I ended up being induced, an epidural after about 10 hours and then a s cup 4 hours after that although it all seems hazy now.
Every woman is different and every birth is different but as soon as baby is there the pain is forgotten (even while the Dr's are still doing their thing you don't really notice them).
We are planning number 2 and I fully expect to be scared sh@tless again for another 9 months, but it is so worth it
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