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Re: What do you do with dirty diapers?

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Now for another groan, lol - in those days, having to use terry nappies meant that our little ones were all potty trained by 2. Now you can groan - cheers. (only jesting, but yet true- those nappies were such a pain, that we were all really eager to see the back of them. Very motivating )
I've always wondered about that. My mum told me I was potty trained at 1.5, and apparently this was the norm at the time. My grandmum was horrified to learn that my son was still not potty trained well into his third year.

But nowadays the doctors tell us that a child is unable to master his sphincters before the second year at the earliest, and 3 seems to be the norm for potty training. Is it only because modern nappies are too comfortable?!
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Old 19.07.2012, 10:19
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Re: What do you do with dirty diapers?

Why not just take them back to the shop you bought them from? Tell them you just opened the packet and the nappies were already full.
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Old 19.07.2012, 11:34
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I've always wondered about that. My mum told me I was potty trained at 1.5, and apparently this was the norm at the time. My grandmum was horrified to learn that my son was still not potty trained well into his third year.

But nowadays the doctors tell us that a child is unable to master his sphincters before the second year at the earliest, and 3 seems to be the norm for potty training. Is it only because modern nappies are too comfortable?!
They can definitely control it. My son never, ever peed while he was sleeping, from the day he was born. i had to grab him first thing after sleep to avoid a flood!

You can look up Elimination Communication, it is not using diapers at all and letting your kid know when they have to go. I have seen moms and babies successfully do it, but the baby needs to be attached most of the time b/c the cues are subtle.

Disposable diapers do offer a lot of convenience for an active family (as a cd'er i found times where they were just easier) but they do lengthen the time for training, and are very good at wicking the pee away so we can ignore the stuff inside of them. but each family finds a way that works for them and for most being able to throw away the diaper is the best way. OP you will figure it out through trial and error and in the end what you decide to do is what is right for your family.

there is an extremely active US discussion board for natural living including parenting, cooking, natural family living, cleaning, eating, you name it!
http://www.mothering.com/community/f/
i participated in it for years. it addresses alternatives to the US mainstream living, some of the issues don't apply in CH of course, but it may be something some of you moms may be interested in.
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Old 19.07.2012, 11:41
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Re: What do you do with dirty diapers?

A few friends of mine decided to actively potty train their kids at age 2, over one summer. It worked eventually, but it meant one whole summer putting their kids on the potty every hour or so, and wiping countless accidents over the day.

I decided to let my son be in charge. At 3.5 he told me he didn't want nappies anymore. He took them off and never had an accident, he was potty trained straight away.

I'm not being judgmental here. Everybody does what they think is best. But for me, no way I'll spend 3 months mopping the floor 3-4 times a day!
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Old 19.07.2012, 11:55
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They can definitely control it. My son never, ever peed while he was sleeping, from the day he was born. i had to grab him first thing after sleep to avoid a flood!
Subconsciously, in that case.

Lucky for you though!

Our three year old is a complete pain - he stays dry most nights and will pee in the toilet quite happily but has a complete aversion to pooing on the toilet.

We've tried everything. Sometimes, after-half an hour sitting there, we'll give up for a bit and he'll promptly get up and within five minutes he's filled his pants.

A bit off-topic but has anyone experienced the same with one of their children and how did they solve it?
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Subconsciously, in that case.

Lucky for you though!

Our three year old is a complete pain - he stays dry most nights and will pee in the toilet quite happily but has a complete aversion to pooing on the toilet.

We've tried everything. Sometimes, after-half an hour sitting there, we'll give up for a bit and he'll promptly get up and within five minutes he's filled his pants.

A bit off-topic but has anyone experienced the same with one of their children and how did they solve it?
Sometimes they are scared of that weird feeling of having their butt floating in mid air. also if they don't have their feet on a stool they may feel uncomfortable. also they may not have anything to 'push' against if that makes any sense, since the diaper isn't there. did you try a small potty seat with a smaller hole? i think ikea has them cheap. and/or a stool for his feet? or, i know, gross, but lots of cheap underwear for him to wear around, and even sit on the toilet with?
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Old 19.07.2012, 12:13
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Re: What do you do with dirty diapers?

For 3-4 months after being potty trained my son was scared of the toilet, he would insist on using a potty. And even after that for quite a long time we had to use one of those seat that you place on the toilet seat.

Does your son agree to ask for a nappy to poo in, then you can take it off? I think the risk now is that it degenerates into a battle of will. Kids at that age are ready to take every opportunity to test their limits, and refusing to poo in the toilet is such a great way of testing you!

Or you could decide together WHEN he will poo in the toilet. Like, when he is 3.5 for instance. You mark the date in the calendar, and you regularly check how the date is getting closer. This way it will be HIS decision.
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Old 19.07.2012, 12:14
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Sometimes they are scared of that weird feeling of having their butt floating in mid air. also if they don't have their feet on a stool they may feel uncomfortable. also they may not have anything to 'push' against if that makes any sense, since the diaper isn't there. did you try a small potty seat with a smaller hole? i think ikea has them cheap. and/or a stool for his feet? or, i know, gross, but lots of cheap underwear for him to wear around, and even sit on the toilet with?
There is a footstool and we tried one of those seats with a smaller hole.
He's too big for a potty.

(He doesn't mind sitting on the toilet and will quite happily pee sitting down).

He wears pants most of the time anyway.
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Old 19.07.2012, 12:18
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Does your son agree to ask for a nappy to poo in, then you can take it off?
I'm not sure how that will help in the long term.

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I think the risk now is that it degenerates into a battle of will. Kids at that age are ready to take every opportunity to test their limits, and refusing to poo in the toilet is such a great way of testing you!

You could be right here - he is very stubborn.

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Or you could decide together WHEN he will poo in the toilet. Like, when he is 3.5 for instance. You mark the date in the calendar, and you regularly check how the date is getting closer. This way it will be HIS decision.
We've done loads of things like that.
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Old 19.07.2012, 12:29
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Re: What do you do with dirty diapers?

And if you tell him that since he behaves like a baby you'll put him back in nappies? He will be only too happy to wear them and not bother with the toilet, or his pride will make him use the toilet?
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And if you tell him that since he behaves like a baby you'll put him back in nappies? He will be only too happy to wear them and not bother with the toilet, or his pride will make him use the toilet?
No, he doesn't mind wearing nappies. We tend to put them on him when we go out.
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Re: What do you do with dirty diapers?

Can you imagine how much money you would save in potty training earlier. My adorable grand-daughter in the UK has only just now stopped wearing pull-ups and she is 3. Her brother didn't do so until 3 1/2. So on the premise that in the 70s, kids were normally dry at 2- how much is one year's supply?
And from the environment point of view, how many tons.

I know, I know, times have changed, etc - but an interesting point perhaps?
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Can you imagine how much money you would save in potty training earlier. My adorable grand-daughter in the UK has only just now stopped wearing pull-ups and she is 3. Her brother didn't do so until 3 1/2. So on the premise that in the 70s, kids were normally dry at 2- how much is one year's supply?
And from the environment point of view, how many tons.

I know, I know, times have changed, etc - but an interesting point perhaps?
Do you think it is in any way linked to the fact that in the 70s many women were at home, and had time to spend 2-3 months mopping the floor, changing and then washing clothes several times a day?

Yes it is possible to 'train' your kids to be dry earlier. But at which cost? What quality of life do you have when your child is like a bomb that can poo or pee at any time, wherever you are? When you have to find toilets every hour, when your life revolves around toilets for several months?
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Totally agree, and it was not meant as a criticism- just an acknowledgement that things have changed. And that part of that change is due to the fact that not having to wash old fashioned terry nappies, and the kids not being terribly inconvenienced by said nappies- meant there was much more incentive to potty-train.

I was very lucky as we had a small garden- so potty trained during the Summer, with kids running around in knickers or bare bots.

Was just saying that there is an environmental and a financial cost to 'potty' training later, and that it is interesting. No good at maths, but if you think of the number of nappies per day per child, and multiply over a year- then multiply over the baby population in 'first' world- the impact is huge - with the raw materials, chemicals used for processing white cellulose and gel, manufacture, transport and disposal. This is not a criticism - just thinking aloud.
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Totally agree, and it was not meant as a criticism- just an acknowledgement that things have changed. And that part of that change is due to the fact that not having to wash old fashioned terry nappies, and the kids not being terribly inconvenienced by said nappies- meant there was much more incentive to potty-train.

I was very lucky as we had a small garden- so potty trained during the Summer, with kids running around in knickers or bare bots.
That's what we did with our first one and it was pretty painless. Boy no.2 is the problem.
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Yes, it does seem that boys are much more difficult to 'train' early- my sympathies.
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I was very lucky as we had a small garden- so potty trained during the Summer, with kids running around in knickers or bare bots.
And no need to buy fertilizer for the lawn!

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Was just saying that there is an environmental and a financial cost to 'potty' training later, and that it is interesting. No good at maths, but if you think of the number of nappies per day per child, and multiply over a year- then multiply over the baby population in 'first' world- the impact is huge - with the raw materials, chemicals used for processing white cellulose and gel, manufacture, transport and disposal. This is not a criticism - just thinking aloud.
Of course not. And you're also not one of these loha's who believe that their lifestyle is morally superior.
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Re: Baby Advice - Diaper disposal

I agree it is because the nappies are so comfortable that it takes longer. If you know your toddler is just taking the easy road, take the risk let them go without a nappy - for mine I only did it once and the wet clothes were such a bad experience, it was an instant "cure".
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We used TommeeTippee, it worked great
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Re: Baby Advice - Diaper disposal

OK so now I`m going to throw a spanner in the proverbial diaper bag...

Why even use disposable diapers? We used Fuzzy Bunz, a brilliant pre-fold cloth diaper that our baby loved! http://www.fuzzibunzstore.com/

After a pooh, simply shake the loose pooh(if there is such a thing) in to the loo and then use the shower nozzle (or similar, depending on your bathroom) to spray the remainder down the toilet (no need to flush as shower water forces water and pooh down the system) and then hang the rinsed diaper on your balcony to dry until you are ready to wash...or put it in a plain cloth diaper pail with a lid until you have a machine load. Honestly the whole process takes about 2 minutes.

I KNOW about the whole disposable VS cloth diaper thing and dont want to go into it here...but I have to say that we have had no "smell " issues at all with the cloth diapers (and we have saved a fortune on disposables although we used them when out of the house ).

Just an idea...
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