Hi i live in luzern and have recently had a baby, we have registered his birth now and i am just wondering whether there IS something here the equivalent to family allowance in uk? If so how do i go about getting it etc?

Many thanks

Em

Yes, your employer should add it to your/your husband's wages.
About 200 CHF per child per month I think.

yes, it's canton-specific (of the employer) so check with both HR departments and take the one where the payment is more.

You'll likely fill out a form for "Anmeldung Familienzulagen für Arbeitnehmende" given your location - it's the registration form for employed people to get family allowance.

You'll need a copy of the birth certificate as well as other documentation.

The form I've just pulled up needs the following:
Folgende Dokumente sind der Anmeldung beizulegen

Schweizer:
Kopie des Familienbüchleins (Eltern und Geburten) oder der Geburtsscheine der Kinder und Eheschein

Ausländer:
Eltern: Ausländerausweis und Eheschein
Kinder: Ausländerausweis und Geburtsschein

Dokumente, welche nicht in einer Schweizer Landessprache verfasst sind, müssen von einer anerkannten Stelle oder Behörde übersetzt werden.

ok... little bit complicated. My husband is currently managing hotels in uk so he doesnt work here. he is however setting up his own business here in the middle of this year. does this mean we don't/won't qualify for it?

Cue a load of emails from people in CH amazed that you would expect child support from the State here, but don't pay taxes...

That aside, I am not sure, so can't help in this case.

I think the form has bits for self-employed so it is possible. You both need AHV numbers, I believe....certainly the primary claimant does.

http://www.ak-banken.ch/
and
http://www.ak-banken.ch/Formulare/FA...deformular.pdf

You might want to ask a native speaker for help with the form...I'm sure there are terms there that confuse the heck out of you.

There is a child allowance and it is controlled by the Canton where your employer is registered: ie the rate is set by the Canton. It is paid for by an employers' fund, and the money comes from your employer with your pay packet. About 200 to 290 Francs per month, plus about 700 for the birth. If your husband is self employed here he will be paying into the fund, and so he could claim the child allowance back.

So if you don't work here and your husband's direct employer has no office here, then you ain't getting any.

We aren't spongers!! In uk they give you it no matter whether you are employed or not called child benefit. There is a separate thing that unemployed people get like tax credit or income benefits etc.

In Canton Zurich there is such a thing as child benefits for the unemployed (http://www.sozialhilfe.zh.ch/interne...erzulagen.html) but I'd check with your Gemeinde to find out if it applies to you

more information with the numbers and so on:
http://www.ahv-iv.info/andere/00134/...x.html?lang=de (first link on the page)

I'm in the process of doing this too, my husband is self employed so we're not entitled to it here, but we might be entitled to it from the UK. See:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/...ork-abroad.htm

Form:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/ch2-online.pdf

notes:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/ch2-2007-notes.pdf

hope this helps

Does this exist in Zug, anybody know. Been looking for work for an eternity; been paid by the RAV, but last cheque from them comes this month; next month I self employed ...

The gemeinde said I could get child benefit when i started work here a few months ago.

My employer is now saying that because my x-wife gets child benefit in the UK I can't claim in here.

Can anyone confirm or refute this?

Thanks

Mike

Mike,

Silly question. Who has custody of the kids and where are they? If there in the UK then why on earth should anybody pay you child benefit? If they are here then well, then perhaps you should tell the authorities in the UK to stop paying the ex-wife so you can get the allowance here.

Simple no?

Mark

I doubt very much you are entiled to it in the UK. Our son goes to boarding school in the UK but the minute I informed them that I was relocating to Switzerland HMRC wrote to me to say we were no longer entitled to CHB.

Also please find Swiss (Zug) form attached.

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CHB-Swiss.pdf (128.2 KB, 493 views)

Mikee, It doesn't matter where your kids reside, the fact your are employed by a swiss registered business means that you are entitled to the benefit. The only concession here is that under the bilateral agreements the home state makes the primary payment then if you are resident in a country that has a higher level of family allowance (kinderzulagen in switzerland) then the differential is paid by that state. In this case due to switzerland having a higher rate than the UK (minimum 200chf dependant on the kanton) means you can claim the difference, custody does also not come in to it and your partner will not necessarily be aware that you are claiming the difference as she will not be consulted on the matter. What you will need to do is complete a form E411 and send it to the child benefit office in the uk for validation and subsequent submission to the swiss social security office. Once you have completed this and had it returned speak to your HR department regarding the application form for the kinderzulagen. You will also need a copy of the childs birth certificate to prove parentage and the fact that you do actually have children. You may also find that doing this will give you a tax benefit too as most foreign workers on a B permit if their kids and partners are not resident with them will be registered in their Kanton as having no children. IF your wife is still resident in the UK she can still legitimately claim child benefit and she should because it will maintain her NI stamp for her state pension. The only time the Inland revenue would stop payments if it were the claimant that was actually moving abroad.

But then you should be able to claim child allowance in Switzerland, no? Have you tried?

This is absolutely correct if it is for the same child. I also believe if there is a dispute in the UK as to who receives it, it is the mother that get preference.

Mikee,

In Zug if that is still where you are the actual payment is 300CHF per child between the ages of 1 and 16 (it goes up to 350CHF between 18 and 25 if they are still in education). Try this website to check if you want, it is in german but it also has the option to say where your children reside. http://www.kinderzulage.ch/main/index.php?kanton=5

Just to add this will be backdated till the point of starrting residency in Switzerland as long as it does not exceed 5 years

quick update. Our HR girl now says that they will pay the difference between UK amount and chf amount ??

The story changes each person i speak to !!