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Truly amazing how defensive people are on this thread about this issue.
Indeed. As the following example shows...

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You people really do read like a bunch of people who have drinking problems. As the other fellow said(us")

All that I wrote would not bother anyone who did not have a drinking problem.

Enjoy your drinking if you can. Hard to drink now once that little voice inside says, "maybe I do have a problem" It will never go away.

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Maybe we should add "projecting" to that, too..?
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indeed. As the following example shows...



Maybe we should add "projecting" to that, too..?
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Old 16.05.2019, 16:03
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Re: Alcoholism treatment and help

Focus is getting a lot of stick on this thread, and has been forced onto the defensive. But remember this is someone who obviously has really strong feelings on this subject. According to what he has told us, he has suffered from alcohol problems personally and also takes time to help others in the field.

Maybe we can cut him just a little slack?
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All that I wrote would not bother anyone who did not have a drinking problem.
Pigeonhole much?

You've had a problem with alcohol (my condolences), and the symptom was... consumption of alcohol. You resolved the problem by abstaining (my congratulations).

You seem to think that anyone who doesn't agree with you about alcohol consumption must have an drinking problem.

There are people who think they have no drinking problem, but do, but there are also people who think they have no drinking problem and they don't.
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Old 16.05.2019, 16:07
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You people really do read like a bunch of people who have drinking problems. As the other fellow said(us")

All that I wrote would not bother anyone who did not have a drinking problem.

Enjoy your drinking if you can. Hard to drink now once that little voice inside says, "maybe I do have a problem" It willl never go away.

Chow

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Old 16.05.2019, 16:13
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Re: Alcoholism treatment and help

EF's gotta EF, sigh.
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Pigeonhole much?

You've had a problem with alcohol (my condolences), and the symptom was... consumption of alcohol. You resolved the problem by abstaining (my congratulations).

You seem to think that anyone who doesn't agree with you about alcohol consumption must have an drinking problem.

There are people who think they have no drinking problem, but do, but there are also people who think they have no drinking problem and they don't.
I know I said chow but have a few minutes before I have to leave.

The problem was not the consumption of alcohol per se . It was why I drank the alcohol. And I was not a heavy drinker.

No not really about everyone disagreeing me. I kind put that there to irratate. I am sure though that it has irratated some.I have been accused of irratating people so why let them down. The question is why is it irratating them. Why not learn.

The point is that I do have a lot of experience and know about this issue. (I should hope so by now) I have not had problem with people disagreeing with me. Actually I kind of expect it here. I find it really amazing how defensive people are. I have not charged anyone. I have only provided information. As I said, people who would not have a problem wit their consumption of alcohol would not be bothered.
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All that I wrote would not bother anyone who did not have a drinking problem.
Wrong again! My problem is with your misogyny and misinformation. No problem with alcohol and have maintained a kidney score of 95-98 for the last 20yrs. Partner drinks approx 8 beers per annum and has done so for over 30yrs.

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It's 'ciao' unless you've switched the subject to dogs.
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Old 16.05.2019, 16:27
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EF's gotta EF, sigh.
Well maybe just, ya know. Self-inflicted?

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No not really about everyone disagreeing me. I kind put that there to irratate. I am sure though that it has irratated some.I have been accused of irratating people so why let them down. The question is why is it irratating them. Why not learn.
To be fair, it's not "irratating", (although your spelling of "irritating" is making my teeth itch), it's just plain wrong. You don't like being called out as wrong so you go on the defensive thinking everyone else is in denial about some drinking problem YOU are projecting onto them.

I just tried to think back to the last time I had an alcoholic drink and I think it was around Easter. A bottle of beer which I then abandoned because my son was barfing all over the bathroom. It went warm and flat and I had the smell of someone else's vom in my nose so I tipped it down the sink. I couldn't be a lush if I tried.
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Wrong again! My problem is with your misogyny and misinformation. No problem with alcohol and have maintained a kidney score of 95-98 for the last 20yrs. Partner drinks approx 8 beers per annum and has done so for over 30yrs.

It's 'ciao' unless you've switched the subject to dogs.

You have got to be kidding. Misogyny. I dont even look at who is what. Do you know what the word means.

Even finding fault for my ciao is an indication of the state of mind. So pedantic. Unbelievable.

So EF
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Old 16.05.2019, 16:30
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Well maybe just, ya know. Self-inflicted?



To be fair, it's not "irratating", (although your spelling of "irritating" is making my teeth itch), it's just plain wrong. You don't like being called out as wrong so you go on the defensive thinking everyone else is in denial about some drinking problem YOU are projecting onto them.

I just tried to think back to the last time I had an alcoholic drink and I think it was around Easter. A bottle of beer which I then abandoned because my son was barfing all over the bathroom. It went warm and flat and I had the smell of someone else's vom in my nose so I tipped it down the sink. I couldn't be a lush if I tried.
Finger slipping on the keys. Does it really matter.?

What really matters is your son's drinking behaviour.
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Old 16.05.2019, 16:33
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Finger slipping on the keys. Does it really matter.?

What really matters is your son's drinking behaviour.
Jesus, and you offer advice to people on a professional level? Just wow.

Not that it's any of your grubby business, my son is 11 and he had a gastric flu all weekend.

Take a chill pill, eh? Insulting kids is a bit low.
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Gosh I apologize. I was thinking that your had been drinking.

I am in semi retirement and had some time.

I regret now ever responding to this thread.

Really wanted just to help people.

Ciao
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Gosh I apologize. I was thinking that your had been drinking.
That seems to be your problem, you attribute everything to either drinking or drug taking.

Just because you had an issue doesn’t mean everybody else does, you do seem a bit obsessed by it all.
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Old 16.05.2019, 17:06
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No not really about everyone disagreeing me. I kind put that there to irratate. I am sure though that it has irratated some.I have been accused of irratating people so why let them down. The question is why is it irratating them. Why not learn.

The point is that I do have a lot of experience and know about this issue. (I should hope so by now) I have not had problem with people disagreeing with me. Actually I kind of expect it here. I find it really amazing how defensive people are. I have not charged anyone. I have only provided information. As I said, people who would not have a problem wit their consumption of alcohol would not be bothered.
Being a life coach does involve irritating people to get out of their comfort zone. I've had enough dealings with mental health professionals to know that some of them only have a single bell, and they ring that bell all day long. It is exceedingly difficult to get people like that to understand that they _might_ just be ringing the wrong bell.

But this is an internet forum, what on earth do you expect as a reaction if you deliberately irritate people?
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Old 16.05.2019, 17:19
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That seems to be your problem, you attribute everything to either drinking or drug taking.

Just because you had an issue doesn’t mean everybody else does, you do seem a bit obsessed by it all.
I just do not get it. I do not attribute everything to drugs and alcohol. This thread was about alcoholism. Yes?
I was writing about because that is what the thread is about
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Being a life coach does involve irritating people to get out of their comfort zone. I've had enough dealings with mental health professionals to know that some of them only have a single bell, and they ring that bell all day long. It is exceedingly difficult to get people like that to understand that they _might_ just be ringing the wrong bell.

But this is an internet forum, what on earth do you expect as a reaction if you deliberately irritate people?
I am a coach trainer in neuroscience. And no I do not irratate people in my coaching. Actually I am somewhat happy positive person but according to this list I do. I had no intention to irratate people. All I was doing was providing information which seemed to irratate people.

I was speaking with a young fellow who made videos for YouTube. He said he was amazed by the negativity and nasty comments. So I have learned by this experience. Really do not want to participate on EF anymore. Not a pleasant experience at all
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Old 16.05.2019, 18:32
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It's not dinner without a glass or three of wine.

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I am a coach trainer in neuroscience. And no I do not irratate people in my coaching. Actually I am somewhat happy positive person but according to this list I do. I had no intention to irratate people. All I was doing was providing information which seemed to irratate people.
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Telling people your story is great.
Offering a bit of advice is fine too.

Posting post after post with link after link is not, especially when pointed out, the author of the link to which you posted has an agenda too and purposely twists words to get their (false) message across.

Not everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic. I enjoy a drink but, like most adults, am totally aware that it is so easy to become alcohol dependent - probably without realising it (and being in denial) until it is too late.

I'm sure there are alcoholics, recovering alcoholics and alcoholics in denial on this forum.
I'm sure you'll also appreciate there are people on this forum who drink alcohol but are none of the above.
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It's not dinner without a bottle or three of wine.

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