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Acupuncture in Zurich

I'd like to recommend an acupuncture therapist I've had the pleasure of consulting over the last year. Should anyone be seeking a calm and experienced practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine, herbal remedies and even Japanese pediatric care, I wholeheartedly suggest you contact Eden Schatt-Alexander at Römerhof, Zurich.

Eden's pretty intuitive about assessing one's needs and will bring you around in no time. Her application of herbal remedies comes with a no-nonsense approach, without a hint of incense sticks or new age fuzz.

Eden comes from an interesting background in California and has studied around the world. She is recognised by the major health insurance firms so is likely to be available to most when necessary.

I have no personal connection to this recommendation other than satisfaction and the pleasure to promote another 'expat' business.

goldenacupuncture.org*
eden@goldenacupuncture.org
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*Currently site info only in German, but she's American so speaks a passable English ;-)

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Old 20.07.2010, 16:05
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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

Does accupunture really work? Have you noticed a difference, if so, what? I'm looking for something to relax/destress.
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Old 20.07.2010, 16:19
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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

I noticed a wonderous difference in several complaints which Western medicine didn't manage to resolve, notably: hayfever, a severe ankle injury and a recurring skin irritation. There are several other issues which proved interesting: my asthma is now negligable, general energy and well being improved and my looks get better and better... although with the last item your mileage may vary, mary.
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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

From personal experience I would say yes. A few years ago my migraines got out of control, I had over the years tried all that Western medicine could offer me with no respite so I tried acupuncture really as a last resort. The difference was huge for me, I went from a migraine a week which lasted about 3 days to one every 6 months. As you can imagine I am a big fan.

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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

JKust out of curiousity... does it also help with stopping smoking? While I realise that willpower is obviously a requirement, I keep having major lapses... I stop for a week or two, go out then start again... running out of ideas short of trying some weird and wacky things.
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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

I would say it could be helpful. Acupuncture is often used in addiction clinics to help people with withdrawl symptoms.


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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

+ another big fan.

I suffered from wrist tendonitis and despite prescription anti-inflammatory drugs, it never got better. Almost cried when my GP told me that it was either braces or surgery. Acupuncture was my last resort - suggested by mum who is a huge fan - I hate needles, and thought of it as a huge fiasco but was desperate so gave it a go.

6 months later, I was on the mend and never had such a serious recurrance again. A tip for anyone who is planning to try it: do not expect results overnight. Its a slow but steady healing process.
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I have tendonitis... but surely it only helps if you stay away form computers? For me that impossible as its my job.
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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

No you don't have to stay away from computers. Acpuncture works by restoring the flow of energy in your body and removing any blockages, you can continue to work while this happens. The first written evidence of acupuncture dates back over 4000 years so they must be doing something right for it still to be used today.

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I have tendonitis... but surely it only helps if you stay away form computers? For me that impossible as its my job.
I got my tendonitis from a musical instrument.

I remember that needles were inserted at the source of my pain. It was explained that it was to improve the circulation of the qi (energy) and blood in that affected area. Depending on how severe your tendonitis is, you can still carry on doing that activity whilst having the treatment.

I also had needles near the liver as it was explained that one of the functions of liver is to control and moisten the tendons and ligaments. I dont think a Western doctor will ever relate those 2.
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Re: Acupuncture in Zurich

How much does it normally cost per session, and how much of it can be covered by insurance? I'm sure the coverage differs by insurance scheme but would like to hear some experiences.

I'm a huge fan of acupuncture, i used to go for therapies for TMJ injury.
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I'm a huge fan of acupuncture, i used to go for therapies for TMJ injury.
^^what he / she said??
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If I understand you correctly you misunderstood my question. How much does it cost in Zurich.
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If I understand you correctly you misunderstood my question. How much does it cost in Zurich.
I am interested in this part "How much does it normally cost per session, and how much of it can be covered by insurance?", wether in Zurich or other cantons
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Does accupunture really work? Have you noticed a difference, if so, what? I'm looking for something to relax/destress.
There have been no good studies showing that traditional acupuncture is any more effective than placebo. One study showed that twirling toothpicks is just as (in)effective for pain relief and also safer since there's no risk of infection. The entire rationale (Qi, meridian lines, etc) is pre-scientific.

It may help you relax, but only in the same way that taking a break and lying down in a quiet place for a while, or having a massage helps you relax.

If you do have acupuncture, be sure the practitioner wears gloves and uses sterilized needles.
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It worked immediately for me, with hand tremors. Couldn't afford to keep up the treatment though and back in the 80's it wasn't paid for by my medaid...

It's no longer the quack science it used to be, awful lot of science in it's favour... Especially with back pain and chronic arthritis...
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It worked immediately for me, with hand tremors. Couldn't afford to keep up the treatment though and back in the 80's it wasn't paid for by my medaid...

It's no longer the quack science it used to be, awful lot of science in it's favour...
"It worked for me" is an anecdote, not science. I don't doubt that it helped with your hand tremors, but I suspect that was due to a placebo effect rather than any specific effect of the acupuncture.

In properly blinded studies, when real acupuncture is compared with sham acupuncture, there is no difference. See the discussion here, for example. Or here. Or here.
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"It worked for me" is an anecdote, not science. I don't doubt that it helped with your hand tremors, but I suspect that was due to a placebo effect rather than any specific effect of the acupuncture.

In properly blinded studies, when real acupuncture is compared with sham acupuncture, there is no difference. See the discussion here, for example. Or here. Or here.
You will not convert anyone for whom it has worked... Remind me to get another bottle of Anecdote, works bloody wonders.
No point in quoting your google attempts, that's easy for any side to do here.

It's as good as conventiional treatment. Proven.

Oh, and a few billion Chinese people over the years are wrong are they ? It's successful and popular for a reason...

None so blind as those that won't see.
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You will not convert anyone for whom it has worked...
No point in quoting your google attempts, that's easy for any side to do here.
I am not really trying to address the converted. But, I do believe that people thinking of trying acupuncture should be aware of the complete lack of evidence for its effectiveness.

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It's as good as conventiional treatment. Proven.

Oh, and a few billion Chinese people over the years are wrong are they ? It's successful and popular for a reason...

None so blind as those that won't see.
Argumentum ad populum. Smoking is successful and popular too--that doesn't mean it's good for you.
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I am not really trying to address the converted. But, I do believe that people thinking of trying acupuncture should be aware of the complete lack of evidence for its effectiveness.



Argumentum ad populum. Smoking is successful and popular too--that doesn't mean it's good for you.
There is loads of evidence, you just chose not to read it when you googled it.
People don't go to Physicians to get cigarettes...
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