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Old 07.11.2010, 12:20
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Re: C-Section on request

In my case it took 15 hours of intense contractions to open to 3 centimeters. I was good to handle the pain and didn't complain. But after those 15 hours I was so exausted of constant contractions and my last night of sleep was tuesday (we were saturday) so when I finally reached the 3 cm, I asked for the epidural. I knew it could slow down the progress but honestly, in my case the progress was turtle speed anyway.

I gave birth 3 hours later.

I was relax, calm and I had a little bit of a nap to get some energy back for the big push. When the pushing time came, I couldn't feel the pain but I still could feel the contractions and was able to push by myself without the midwife telling me when to do so.

It is possible to have an mild epidural and still have some sensations to know what is going on and feel the contractions (without the pain)

So Nicky, in my experience the epidural was the best invention in the world and I'll do it again. You can have a soft one and you'll still enjoy the pushing part.

But for now, let's just get there!

By the way, my daughter came at 38 weeks and was 2.71 kilo. She was a teeny tiny little cute thing but she was already able to lift her head in the hospital.

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When I went to the hospital for the scan screan test of the 12 weeks pregnancy I spoke to the doctor about my concerns for this second labor. I tld her all the pain and problems I had from the episiotomy and she suggested me to look for this device: Epi-No

It isn't covert by the insurances and cost around 160chf. I think it is worthed to give a try.

If it can help someone in here (beside me), I'll be very very happy!
I used this device when I was pregnant the second time round. The thing is that I had bad memories from the time they sutured my episiotomy cut after the birth of my first baby. The pain was almost unbearable as the local anesthetic they gave me did not do the job and I did not give birth under epidural. So I wanted to avoid episiotomy (not to mention Caesarean) at any cost.

A midwife recommended the Epi-No, I used it during the last 2 months of pregnancy and ended up only with a tiny, painless tear -- although I had a very long and difficult labour and my second baby weighed 4.2 kg -- 0.7 kg more than the first.
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Old 08.11.2010, 14:54
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I used this device when I was pregnant the second time round. The thing is that I had bad memories from the time they sutured my episiotomy cut after the birth of my first baby. The pain was almost unbearable as the local anesthetic they gave me did not do the job and I did not give birth under epidural. So I wanted to avoid episiotomy (not to mention Caesarean) at any cost.

A midwife recommended the Epi-No, I used it during the last 2 months of pregnancy and ended up only with a tiny, painless tear -- although I had a very long and difficult labour and my second baby weighed 4.2 kg -- 0.7 kg more than the first.
hmm, it took my doctor about 45-50 min to stitch me up and she just kept on administering local anesthetic each time it started to wear off. What is it with the stinginess of pain relief in some places?!
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Old 08.11.2010, 15:03
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Re: C-Section on request

It's true, while some people will give you homeopathy and a cold compress when you are fainting with pain, some docs will overdose you on painkillers, too, just to give you comfort, and prioritize that over common sense. It was was explained to me once that too much painkillers in that sensitive area will prevent from feeling it when things don't go right, it needs to be monitored closely for infection, and pain apparently is a good indicator. I am not sure if I'd buy into this..I'd much rather take the vag stitches than worrying over layers of muscles, things stitched properly in your belly when you can't even see it and treat it once it is stitched, adhesion of guts, bladder, etc. and the lack of post cesarian physiotherapy here. Episiotomy must suck big time, but I'd do anything to have avoided c-sec. I still am not sure why the staff alternated from pytocin to epi and vice versa, when the doc finally came she was pretty angry with the panicky midwives.
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Old 08.11.2010, 15:09
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It's true, while some people will give you homeopathy and a cold compress when you are fainting with pain, some docs will overdose you on painkillers, too, just to give you comfort, and prioritize that over common sense. It was was explained to me once that too much painkillers in that sensitive area will prevent from feeling it when things don't go right, it needs to be monitored closely for infection, and pain apparently is a good indicator. I am not sure if I'd buy into this..I'd much rather take the vag stitches than worrying over layers of muscles, things stitched properly in your belly when you can't even see it and treat it once it is stitched, adhesion of guts, bladder, etc. and the lack of post cesarian physiotherapy here. Episiotomy must suck big time, but I'd do anything to have avoided c-sec. I still am not sure why the staff alternated from pytocin to epi and vice versa, when the doc finally came she was pretty angry with the panicky midwives.
well that would apply after the stitching has been done.

Thing is, we all have different pain thresholds so one person may need more pain meds than another.
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Old 08.11.2010, 18:33
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well that would apply after the stitching has been done.

Thing is, we all have different pain thresholds so one person may need more pain meds than another.
Funny, when I got my epidural, I got to have a chance to nap a bit. I remember that I asked the midwife after a while if it was normal that I felt like something was burning in my vagina area. She looked and saw that I was fully opened. And she also realised that my epidural was ''unpluged''. Got time to plug it back, called the doctor and I was again enough ''frozen'' to push without feeling the pain.
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Old 08.11.2010, 19:02
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Re: C-Section on request

not an easy time nicky, but you'll both pull thru like champions. i agree with the idea that if you don't want a section, try not to have the epi. it can react differently with different people, of course, but it is quite universal in slowing down labor and because of that dr.s try to speed it up with pitocin (spelling?) and that can create a bit of a cycle of the two.

in terms of pain management, there's a lot of little things you can do. one thing to do while there, is practice having someone pinch your arm, hard, painfully and sustain it. sounds cruel but after a minute or so try to concentrate on something else, it's amazing how the feeling of pain will subside a bit and you'll see how you can handle a pain. also, music, earphones all that will help you get into your head a bit and out of the 'painful' situation.

in terms of the cut, that was a huge fear of mine and lying with your legs in a butterfly position can help, also try to get up and squat when you can. if you feel up to it and the dr.s agree, you can ask for a 'squatting bar'. this was my life saver. gravity pulls the baby down during labor slowly and naturally, for me it took time off my delivery and although of course there was pain, it felt like movement as well so i could have faith that the pain would lead to something.

lastly, sounds corny, but i had a kinda mantra i would say when the pain was really bad and everything started happening fast and that's where you start to get a bit outta your head so a mantra was kinda good to keep me a bit calmer. for me it was 'this is not going to kill me'. sounds funny but it helped me so much to remember that all that pressure and pain was normal and part of what i had to go thru for the beautiful baby that was coming.

best of luck and get some sleep as you can-
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hmm, it took my doctor about 45-50 min to stitch me up and she just kept on administering local anesthetic each time it started to wear off. What is it with the stinginess of pain relief in some places?!
I think that mine did the same, but it still hurt like hell. And it seemed to have taken forever to do. The healing was not a problem, only the actual stitching. I think I have a pretty high pain threshold -- I could bear labour pain without anaesthesia, but this was something else. I guess it was psychologically difficult to endure because it came after the labour pain had disappeared and it did come from a real injury.
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PM me the name of your Doc please
Let me know if you don't find a doc willing to do a C-section, mine in ZH prefers C-sections :-) Strange for a Swiss!
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Old 10.11.2010, 19:47
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Re: C-Section on request

Thanks for all your posts, they really helped me see things clearer and the bigger picture.

The outcome is to be a c section - very soon

Watch this space
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Best wishes and hope you have a very smooth recovery...and take the drugs! And good luck with the breastfeeding, it's a learnt skill for you and bubs so hope you get the hang of things without too many dramas....
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Same from me. Looking forward to your news.
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Re: C-Section on request

Almost 36 weeks Nicky in 10 days (at 37 weeks) the little one will no longer be considered pre-mature.

The bright sides of c-sections are:
- it really doesn't hurt
- quicky birth, before you can blink they're showing you your baby
- beautiful baby (c-section babies are all cute and rosy)
- everything stays in shape physically (none of those pelvic exercises)
- nice tummy tuck
- since you can't lift anything except the baby, everybody else gets to do the house work and the grocery shopping
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all the best of luck my dear-

the outcome, after all, will be a beautiful baby!
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Tummy tuck Sky? now you're talking

wont be hitting 37 weeks - its imminent but wont publish the day - you can all wait

still bed bound in hossie tho
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Oh your baby just wants to come out and meet his/her mommy! I hope you are feeling better about the c-section.
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Oh your baby just wants to come out and meet his/her mommy! I hope you are feeling better about the c-section.
Would rather not have one but as you all say, i am likely to forget in a few weeks.

Although all Skys plus points on c sections are making it sound more attractive
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Re: C-Section on request

Odds on, now that you "know", your blood pressure will go down and you may have a few more days grace to get all the things sorted that you want done before the birth.

With luck, if your BP goes down enough, you may even be able to entertain other options again.

No matter which way it goes, I have complete and utter faith in you that you will just get on with it, whichever way it goes and do it bloody goddamn well!!!!!!

Had to add the extra !!!'s just to give you an extra rise to come down from

All the best to you, hubby and lucky little babe.

He/she is gonna be so happy to have got you as parents, look forward to hearing the good news.
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thanks for the !!!!'s my BP has gone up again now

C section is booked, not sure i will get a last minute reprieve but would be cool if I did
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Re: C-Section on request

Not a real tummy tuck, but I really did ask the surgeon to make my tum as flat as possible (considering the circumstances). He humoured me (yeah yeah another preggie) and then did a good job
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