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I hope you go for a natural, only because there are so many risks with a C section. Its a major operation, they cut right through your muscel and tear it apart. Also many women can get infections with the open wound and end up back in hospital, having to have injections trice a day with anti biotics.
It is major surgery. I wanted one second time around and was talked out of it while pregnant. Someone who had done it both ways said that she was really out of it after the c-section. Her baby was crying, but she couldn't respond and wasn't even able to press the buzzer to alert staff. Kind of scary. A neighbour mentioned not being able to walk up stairs after her c-section and I have heard that insurance won't let you drive for a month after.

I had retained placenta the first time and this got infected then 2 surgeries and still choose to go natural the second time (followed by another retained placenta). You also increase the chances of blood clots and yes - things can go wrong. A friend had her scar badly infected and a family friend learned 30 something years later why she kept getting bladder infections - they had nipped a small piece of her urethra during her c-section
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Old 18.10.2010, 22:22
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience. I hear that they don't cut the muscles anymore but pull them aside to reach the baby. Much better on the recovery.
For some, only, unfortunately. The pulling aside can actually damage the muscles, it can tear them, too. I think the combo of that and massive overdose of epi and pytocin at the same time caused me struggling with muscle pains and an abdomen muscle paralysis that I am still working with. Also, the inner scar can get attached to the muscles, guts or bladder, since it is too raw and there might not be enough fluid to keep the fresh wound separated. Don't mean to scare you off, but it does happen to some. Any major abdomen operation has these risks, some people feel the consequences more than others, nerves can be damaged during the op, too. I have almost no visible scar now, the bikini cut is fancy, but the adhesions make it painful. I also kept my baby on me so I wouldn't have to get up from the bed, it was impossible, nurses were too busy, sometimes you can't reach the buzzer and forget stretching over to reach it right after the op, it is too painful, so is sneezing, I couldn't carry anything for weeks, no stairs, no laughing, either, it was debilitating.

I never had any stretch marks either, Weleda prego oil was very good, twice a day, all over, thighs, butt, chest and belly. Having help makes it easier
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For some, only, unfortunately. The pulling aside can actually damage the muscles, it can tear them, too.
I think for most women by that stage in pregnancy, the muscles (can't remember the name, the vertical ones) have already parted due to the bump. That's why you're told not to try to sit straight up in bed in late pregnancy, but instead roll over and swing your legs over the side. I'm not aware that cutting through the muscles is in any way part of the standard procedure. Neither is a vertical incision, which I think was the op that gave rise to a lot of the 'oooh, you won't be able to lift a cup of tea for 2 months afterwards!' rumours.

My c-sections went fine, I had a surprisingly good recovery, was able to comfortably carry my baby, stairs were no problem, etc. Yes, I was shuffling about a bit like an old lady, but only for one day. Yes, I had to put a hand to my incision for support when coughing, but only for perhaps a week. Within a few weeks I was completely back to normal, except of course completely knackered due to the new baby.

Six years later, the incision is completely invisible and flat, there is no ridged scar tissue at all but I was left with a very small area of numbness in the middle of the line after the second section. I only notice this when, like now, I think 'where's that numb bit... ah, there'.

And I can still go on bouncy castles.

I'm not trying to say that abdominal surgery is a great choice, but if it's the only option you're faced with, as I was, it can go really quite well and leave no real short or long term issues. Much better, in fact, than my friend who had months of problems following tearing/cutting at her normal birth, and was eventually treated for a prolapsed womb a few years later. There's bad luck with both natural and c-section methods, you just have to hope yours goes well.
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Also, the inner scar can get attached to the muscles, guts or bladder, since it is too raw and there might not be enough fluid to keep the fresh wound separated. Don't mean to scare you off, but it does happen to some. Any major abdomen operation has these risks, some people feel the consequences more than others, nerves can be damaged during the op, too.
Adhesions are terrible.
Lived with the very painful consequences for almost 10 years after.
Took another surgery for another reason to fix the damage.
Not a joke.
The C-section did save my life and my child's life, but the long term consequences were difficult.
The pain was so debilitating at times that I could not walk without a cane.
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience. I hear that they don't cut the muscles anymore but pull them aside to reach the baby. Much better on the recovery.

And for the stretch marks, apparently you may be lucky the first time but not necessary the second? Finger crossed!
Nil I think you are very brave to have a second child after your first experience!

C-sections seem to be different with every woman. I've had two (one emergency, one planned but still turned out to be emergency) and I'm about to have my third. (planned)The advantage of the planned c-sec is that neither you nor the baby get under stress which is why planned ones are usually performed 10 - 14 days before the estimated date of birth. Unless, of course, you have a baby that decides to get out 4 hours before the c-sec and then you still have stress and become an emergency...

Anyways, I had never a problem to recover, just a bit weak for a day or two from anesthesia. You really should have the choice, especially after a difficult birth, and you can be fully awake and welcome your baby right away, which I hopefully will be able to do this time

All the best to you!

And btw. I have no stretch marks either And neither has my mom.
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Adhesions are terrible.
Lived with the very painful consequences for almost 10 years after.
Took another surgery for another reason to fix the damage.
Not a joke.
The C-section did save my life and my child's life, but the long term consequences were difficult.
The pain was so debilitating at times that I could not walk without a cane.
You are a hero. Really, I know what you are talking about, I have the inner scar attached to multiple places, it's painful as hell. The docs say I should have another child, which will fix the trouble, since they resew the wound, but you know how it is...
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You are a hero. Really, I know what you are talking about, I have the inner scar attached to multiple places, it's painful as hell. The docs say I should have another child, which will fix the trouble, since they resew the wound, but you know how it is...
I feel for you and I'm sorry it turned out for you that way. Then again, think about what kind of damage you might have from a "normal" birth - honestly, I wouldn't want to trade.
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I don't think a proper doctor would ever or should ever carry out a procedure that wasn't necessary for what ever reason.
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I feel for you and I'm sorry it turned out for you that way. Then again, think about what kind of damage you might have from a "normal" birth - honestly, I wouldn't want to trade.
It is a very valid point, I might not have been even able to deliver a big baby, since I am quite petite myself, and my child was a big one. A friend my size had broken her pelvis during delivery.

Now, they don't allow 3rd c-sec back home for safety reasons, the side effects of it all, the womb being too fragile after 3 cuts putting the woman in danger, not mentioning bursting open during pregnancy, adhesions, etc. but I have heard in West it is not an issue, good luck and I am sure it is just a myth!
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I don't think a proper doctor would ever or should ever carry out a procedure that wasn't necessary for what ever reason.
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Now, they don't allow 3rd c-sec back home for safety reasons, the side effects of it all, the womb being too fragile after 3 cuts putting the woman in danger, not mentioning bursting open during pregnancy, adhesions, etc. but I have heard in West it is not an issue, good luck and I am sure it is just a myth!
From what I've been told you can't have more than three.... and anyway my last pregnancy was 13 years ago, so I guess everything has healed by now . (no, don't wanna burst....uuaaahhh)
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C-sections seem to be different with every woman. I've had two (one emergency, one planned but still turned out to be emergency) and I'm about to have my third. (planned)... and you can be fully awake and welcome your baby right away, which I hopefully will be able to do this time
I was awake for both my emergency (but not urgent) and planned sections. One of the things I did differently with the planned, which you may like to include, is to have them wait until I was there for the weighing, measuring, etc. I missed my son's weighing and first bath as I was still in theatre, and was just presented with a finished, dressed bundle half an hour later. This was ok, but next time I wanted more.

Second time around, hubby stuck my daughter up his shirt for skin to skin until I was out, then they weighed her (she was 9lb 9oz, about 4.5kg so I got to be there for the amused 'she weighs HOW much?' conversations), measured her, etc, then we did the first feed. I felt much more involved as a parent, and less a patient, somehow. It was lovely, and also completely bonding for hubby, gave him a genuine role in the procedure, etc.

Good luck for it, hope all goes as you want this time, and that it's the most pleasant experience it can be.

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So today I am 35 weeks pregnant, last night i was admitted into hospital on supervision and forced bed rest due to having developed preeclampsia

I have a few outcomes from the next few days of monitoring but the worst being a C Section in a day or two to get this little (and it will be little) one out

All of a sudden i passionately DO NOT want a C section (not that I ever did) but more so now.

I want to experience what going into labour is like, I want to experience the excitement, nerves panic of getting to hospital, i want to experience a contraction before i scream for a f&%ing epidural. Basically if I am rushed in and cut open in a few days time and have a section I will feel very sad, I know it is best for me to have the baby out due to my condition so I am resting like mad to bring my blood pressure down in the hope they can let me hang on a few more weeks and be induced.

watch this space....
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My doctor here in Zurich, was willing to give me a c-section as I was totally freaked out with giving birth naturally. I think it depends on the doctor..

I am curious as to whether your doctor discussed alternatives to a C-section? For example, various types of pain relief including an epidural which can totally relieve all pain ( if it was potential pain that was causing you to "freak out."
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I don't think a proper doctor would ever or should ever carry out a procedure that wasn't necessary for what ever reason.
Face lift? tummy tuck? breast whatevers? liposuction? Uuummm, yes I think they do.
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I am curious as to whether your doctor discussed alternatives to a C-section? For example, various types of pain relief including an epidural which can totally relieve all pain ( if it was potential pain that was causing you to "freak out."
Yes, my doctor discussed various types of pain relief with me and ... Well... Ummm, ok, I'm going to be straight with you. The whole episiotomy thing was what actually freaked me out
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So today I am 35 weeks pregnant, last night i was admitted into hospital on supervision and forced bed rest due to having developed preeclampsia

I have a few outcomes from the next few days of monitoring but the worst being a C Section in a day or two to get this little (and it will be little) one out

All of a sudden i passionately DO NOT want a C section (not that I ever did) but more so now.

I want to experience what going into labour is like, I want to experience the excitement, nerves panic of getting to hospital, i want to experience a contraction before i scream for a f&%ing epidural. Basically if I am rushed in and cut open in a few days time and have a section I will feel very sad, I know it is best for me to have the baby out due to my condition so I am resting like mad to bring my blood pressure down in the hope they can let me hang on a few more weeks and be induced.

watch this space....
I am so with you now! Nicky, I hope you will have the birth you wish to have. Keep it cool, relax and try to not stress.

If for whatever the reason you have to go under a C-section, don't let get you down. I know you want to live the labor but you can have it the next time ()!

I will think of you a LOT!
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I have a few outcomes from the next few days of monitoring but the worst being a C Section in a day or two to get this little (and it will be little) one out. All of a sudden i passionately DO NOT want a C section (not that I ever did) but more so now.
Nicky, be reassured that however your little one arrives, the doctors will have decided on what is best for both her and you. If you do need the C, just have it and look forward to the excitement of holding your little baby in your arms afterwards.

You can always try the alternative at a later date if you want to. Best wishes for you and your little family.
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II know you want to live the labor but you can have it the next time ()!
What next time? think this is why i passionately don't want a section because this is likely to be my miracle one and only chance of a baby.

I think also adding to the stress is that it is 5 weeks early I am not ready and was still working. Have a lot of loose ends to still tie up.

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Yes, my doctor discussed various types of pain relief with me and ... Well... Ummm, ok, I'm going to be straight with you. The whole episiotomy thing was what actually freaked me out
LOL!!! Aaah, I can understand that. Why is it that so many newly delivered mothers seem to like telling horror stories about their episiotomy experiences, appearing to compete with the number of stitches involved ? Honestly, it's not that bad. I was about to say that it is easier than healing from a C-section, but I can't really say that, having not had a C . But even a tiny pube line C cut is much bigger than any episiotomy nick.
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