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Re: The Pregnant monster

Okay, I know, i'm venturing into stormy seas, but I have to recommend - HOMEOPATHY!
find a good homeopath, my first homeopath was clueless, but i am convinced that the homeopathy given to me during my second pregnancy did the trick, I only threw up until the 13th week, unlike the first where it lasted 5 and a half months, and during the first pregnancy i had a overflow of saliva even until after i gave birth. An extreme overflow, I would go through a roll of Kitchen paper in a day.
Its all natural, worth a try.
I used Ipecacuanha.

All the luck, ladies! Focus on that precious being you will be holding in your arms in a few months time.
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Re: The Pregnant monster

The plastic bags are a great idea, I had forgotten about that. I carried zip-loc bags everywhere with me & also had a stash in the car. They saved me a few times.

As for the anti-nausea pills, when you are as sick as I was choice does not come into it. Without them I would have been hospitalised for months and medicated anyway with them I managed to get vomitting down to between 6 & 10 times per day and could just about function at my job & as a mother to my older son.

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Ah, the joy of planning the journey from one bustop with the trash can to another.

Don't worry, by 9mo is should be alrite.

It's good to keep a plastic bag in your pocket. I would be weary of the antinausea pills, would just take them in real dispear. There is sumfin called motilium, for example, and it is a brain pill, that has an active agent called domperidone, it is a dopamine affecting agent I would certainly not feel safe with it during pregnancy (just like happpy pills and co.) and I think it says so in the leaflet. However, my doc prescribed it to me, so I wouldn't trust all docs and their pharmaceutical knowledge..
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The plastic bags are a great idea, I had forgotten about that. I carried zip-loc bags everywhere with me & also had a stash in the car. They saved me a few times.

As for the anti-nausea pills, when you are as sick as I was choice does not come into it. Without them I would have been hospitalised for months and medicated anyway with them I managed to get vomitting down to between 6 & 10 times per day and could just about function at my job & as a mother to my older son.
I can only imagine, there are tough choices sometimes, I would probably do the same if I were in your position, sure. I was actually thinking about some friends who would always bring some meds from their docs without even questioning and getting informed, just trusting the doc, "these are safe" was the mantra they wouldn't even check. Pharmas push, even here. It's always good to check, though, more so while preggo. I come form a hugely conservative culture in terms of pregnancy and meds, they would ban you from working rather than dope you up with chemicals so you could function. I was banned from working, it was depressing to be sick and at home, no fun.

We had a ped here who wouldn't mind completely overmedicating a baby with painkillers instead of treating the cause, so that makes one wonder, too...Docs aren't gods, and I grew up with, uhm, 6 of them.
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Take the pills. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if it has been prescribed by your Dr. Things that got me through my morning sickness: I could not keep water down at all but I found that I could drink lemon flavoured Isostar if I just sipped it a very little at a time, this is what kept me hydrated & out of hospital. Eat what you want, healthy eating intentions need to be forgotten. If you feel like eating a Big Mac eat it, same goes for an apple. You will be more likely to keep down food even for a little while if you actually feel like eating it. Your cravings can work for you here. Don't worry about the baby, s/he will get all the nutrients they need from your body you will be the one who suffers not it so eat what you want whenever you want until you are over this.

The best foods for MS are carbs. Try grazing, eating a little very often to try to keep something in your stomach. If you throw up something you probably will not want to eat it again so get creative, try dry cereal, toast, biscuits anything to get some energy into you.

If you can try to get as much sleep as you, MS is incredibly tiring so you need rest. If you know what triggers you, for me it was often certain smells, try if at all possible to avoid them. Other things are impossible to avoid sometimes just moving was enough to set me off. Remember to not clean your teeth after throwing up, it will erode the enamal on your teeth even faster if you do. Just rinse.

Most of all remember MS does pass, for me it was when I gave birth but it was still all worth it even though it was hell on earth at the time.

Thanks, Lou and others..it is really great to get good advice and comfort from the forum..I read the book saying that 70% of the pregnant women would have MS, but strangely enough, none of my friends and my mom had this...sometimes I feel really bad that i spent most of the time suffering the nausea and cannot enjoy that much about this wonderful experience, hope I will get there soon..
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Re: The Pregnant monster

I am free of MS since almost too weeks now. What a luck! It gives you back some energy!
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Re: The Pregnant monster

Don't feel different, one has all the images of beautiful glowing preggo women, and then you are hit by the reality, a lot of my friends were sick, I was for 9mo, the last month was easier. I felt like a truck has hit me, tired, edgy and large, vagely remembering all the pretty pictures of pregnancy phantasy from the mags, haha..I was able to manage to just be nauseated and not puke, but only because I let myself eat like a monster. It was a vicious circle when I was hungry, I would get sick so much more, it was paralizing. So, keeping the stomach constantly full actually made me keep the food in if it makes sense, sorry if I am making you queesy. I would also eat outside, I needed cold air on my face to kill the nausea, cold wash cloth on my forehead, and neck, very acidic aples also worked, acidic drinks and mints seemed to work after I ate. I couldn't stand strong odours, perfumes, coffee stench, cigs, so I actively kept away from all those. (actually drinking coffee was fine, just smelling it was hell).
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There is sumfin called motilium, for example, and it is a brain pill, that has an active agent called domperidone, it is a dopamine affecting agent I would certainly not feel safe with it during pregnancy (just like happy pills and co.) and I think it says so in the leaflet. However, my doc prescribed it to me, so I wouldn't trust all docs and their pharmaceutical knowledge..
Though Motilim is the drug of choice for MS in France, it is indeed considered potentially dangerous in the rest of the world.

My doc prescribed me Primpéran (Metoclopramide), and it seems that several well conducted research showed no effect on the foetus, whether animal or human.

My doc is very careful with what is allowed or not, and I trust her. For instance, she said that only 1 pill is allowed per day., and she's always careful before prescribing anything, and checks it in her medical compendium.

I teach at university, and my great fear is to throw up in front of my students in my classroom
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Though Motilim is the drug of choice for MS in France, it is indeed considered potentially dangerous in the rest of the world.

I teach at university, and my great fear is to throw up in front of my students in my classroom
Yeah, they fuss over it in the US, actually I don't blame them. I tried it when I was really nauseated and not preggo, it did stop nausea but I saw everything through this thick fog, was dizzy and things were spinning around me. It's good you have an understanding doc.

Good luck with students, that's hard. I remember mom telling me about being preggo, teaching and throwing up in front of the class, she was teaching medics so it was ok, but it was still quite...ungraceful. I always worried about puking on someone's shoes in public transport, would keep away from people. Or ate, like a monster, I took train with the same folks, they must have laughed at this preggo eating like a pyranha. Little did they know I am trying not to puke.
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Yeah, they fuss over it in the US, actually I don't blame them. I tried it when I was really nauseated and not preggo, it did stop nausea but I saw everything through this thick fog, was dizzy and things were spinning around me. .
Actually, having suffered from severe stomach problems, I'm quite used to Motilium, and those secondary effects stop pretty quickly.

Motilium can be bought over-the-counter here, and is very commonly used. I find Primpéran much more threatening: it's on prescription only, and the notice says it's not unusual to have neurological secondary effetcs... Brrrr...
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co.) However, my doc prescribed it to me, so I wouldn't trust all docs and their pharmaceutical knowledge..

True - remember Thalidomide???
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Actually, having suffered from severe stomach problems, I'm quite used to Motilium, and those secondary effects stop pretty quickly.

Motilium can be bought over-the-counter here, and is very commonly used. I find Primpéran much more threatening: it's on prescription only, and the notice says it's not unusual to have neurological secondary effetcs... Brrrr...
The fact it is over the counter drug does not make the domperidone lighter, I wouldn't just pop it for longer periods (which I am sure people here don't, if they read up on it, anything that affects dopamine popped for longer time has consequences, and whoknows if just for the mom). This is interesting, comparing both (domperidone and metoclopramide), but it's in cases of nausea caused by chemo, heavy duty (last paragraph). I had a terrible motion sickness which was triggered by empty stomach, so travelling with eyes closed and keeping my stomach full managed the situ ok without meds, but I am not sure how I would function at work. Both meds are used to support lactation, weird, didn't know about this, while metoclopramide shouldn't been used in long spans (depression,etc.) I read somewhere, I can't remember, I am sure you can access articles at uni easily.
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True - remember Thalidomide???
Oh god, so sad. I was actually listening to fabulous Bach concert just a few days ago on the eliptical, there was a wonderful soloist, typical Thalidomide child T. Quasthoff, his performance was phenomenal. (warning for preggos but I don't want to put the warning here and sounds disrespectful to Monsieur Quasthoff, he is a true artist).

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Re: The Pregnant monster

I am now getting closer and closer of the old chap sitting at the pub at the end of the night burping and farting like no one can possibly hear....

It takes the grace out of graceful.... and just keep the full! My husband is an hero! He so didn't signed up for this!
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If you gotta puke...rinse, rinse, rinse afterwards. I am a RDH
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I am now getting closer and closer of the old chap sitting at the pub at the end of the night burping and farting like no one can possibly hear....

It takes the grace out of graceful.... and just keep the full! My husband is an hero! He so didn't signed up for this!
This is exactly what I thought too! Especially the whole giving birth part.. If roles were reversed I honestly don't know if I would be able to handle it.
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This is exactly what I thought too! Especially the whole giving birth part.. If roles were reversed I honestly don't know if I would be able to handle it.
I wouldn't. If he complains about a little pain here or there (which is really rare) I am quite bad to play the ''poor little boy, come to mommy'' kind of...
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I am now getting closer and closer of the old chap sitting at the pub at the end of the night burping and farting like no one can possibly hear....

It takes the grace out of graceful.... and just keep the full! My husband is an hero! He so didn't signed up for this!
Yes, between the burping, farting and vomiting in public places, pregnany is a fascinating bodily experience...

And with all those ladylike symptoms, my partner dares complaing of the lack of sex between us, as if I could have my mind on such a thing at the moment! When I don't sleep I'm nauseous, and vice-versa Men......
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You know the funny thing is that you are talking about all the burping, farting and barfing right now but once you have the baby and you come back to your senses after that you will DENY everything. My wife denies all of it and says that it was a figment of my imagination.
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Yes, between the burping, farting and vomiting in public places, pregnany is a fascinating bodily experience...

And with all those ladylike symptoms, my partner dares complaing of the lack of sex between us, as if I could have my mind on such a thing at the moment! When I don't sleep I'm nauseous, and vice-versa Men......
What? You don't feel sexy?????

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You know the funny thing is that you are talking about all the burping, farting and barfing right now but once you have the baby and you come back to your senses after that you will DENY everything. My wife denies all of it and says that it was a figment of my imagination.
I must be very weird, I didn't. So many women told me that you forget all about the labor! WRONG! I remember every single moment of the whole freaking 42 hours! 2 years later....

I think women forget what they want to forget.... Try to forget an anniversary... I can assure you, she'll remember for years if not for ever!
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