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14.01.2011, 12:50
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | You're in luck - Californians are some of the easiest to get to know; New Englanders some of the hardest. | | | | | That's why I like Switzerland so much, it reminds me of New England!
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14.01.2011, 13:14
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I could kill to move to SF! I am so jealous of you right now!!! We still don't know when we go and where we go....
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14.01.2011, 13:18
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | You're in luck - Californians are some of the easiest to get to know; New Englanders some of the hardest. (Loads of exceptions of course but those are the regional stereotypes.)
And 5 years in any college town is an eternity. I know you're not college aged, but still... you should have nooo trouble getting to know people. Maybe try joining a couple of Meetup groups like this one: http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-...is-and-Saffas/ | | | | | That site is amazing! There are just so many groups! I've found two or three that sound great. Thank you so much | 
14.01.2011, 13:23
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | I could kill to move to SF! I am so jealous of you right now!!! We still don't know when we go and where we go.... 
Lucky you!  | | | | | It is a relief to know that we are moving and that we'll be there for a couple of years at least  . Sorry to hear you still dont know where you're going. The waiting drives me insane  . I hope you find out soon!
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14.01.2011, 13:26
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Nic80, if you end up in SF It really will be wonderful. I have spent time in California and I have to say I think it was one of the friendliest nicest places to be in - it could be a culture shock for you - not the enviroment, but the people.
Sf is beautiful and people are sooooooo friendly and open and of course the language is not a problem!!
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14.01.2011, 13:43
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | It is a relief to know that we are moving and that we'll be there for a couple of years at least . Sorry to hear you still dont know where you're going. The waiting drives me insane . I hope you find out soon! | | | | | Especially that it can happen before the birth or just right after.... One or the other one, it will be a very rough time! | 
14.01.2011, 13:51
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | Especially that it can happen before the birth or just right after.... One or the other one, it will be a very rough time!  | | | | | Oh crap. I hope you have demanded the most amazing relocations agent and a personal assistant! I had nightmares about being pregnant and having to move internationally, I'm very grateful that it is not an issue this time. Where might you be moving?
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14.01.2011, 13:57
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | Oh crap. I hope you have demanded the most amazing relocations agent and a personal assistant! I had nightmares about being pregnant and having to move internationally, I'm very grateful that it is not an issue this time. Where might you be moving? | | | | | When it will be time to deal, I am going to deal it strong on that, thanks for the tip!
Probably Europe, but no idea at all where. We just know that it will happen between now and June. I really would love to move to SF, you are very lucky. Hubby worked there before and he keeps saying he wants to go back. It is a very very nice place to be with family.
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14.01.2011, 14:27
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | When it will be time to deal, I am going to deal it strong on that, thanks for the tip!
Probably Europe, but no idea at all where. We just know that it will happen between now and June. I really would love to move to SF, you are very lucky. Hubby worked there before and he keeps saying he wants to go back. It is a very very nice place to be with family. | | | | | Thanks. I've only been to America once and have had my head filled with images of gun toting, bible bashing scary people by the press and print media. Then I met an elitist snot sorry "gentleman" who was very clear that on the social ladder in America I was lower than low as I am just a wife and don't have a university education (I did degrees and trade certificates). He told me that the only thing I had going for me was that Americans love Australian accents and I am planning on studying. I wasn't able to give him a piece of my mind as he is married to my husbands boss  . So yeah, I'm nervous...
We enjoyed our stay in San Francisco but everyone we met was very clear that SF is a bubble in America and that the rest of the country is not nearly as accepting. SF felt a lot like Sydney but louder! We're not used to loud after a year in Switzerland.
You should be really clear with your husbands HR department about what you need for the move (we made that mistake last time and I wont be making it again). And they should take into consideration your condition! Oh and get your husband to stock up on bubble bath/ bath salts  its a great way to de-stress during all the bedlam of a move. Shut the door, lock it and relax!  Normally I'd suggest a glass of red wine too, but maybe you could substitute your favourite non-alcoholic beverage | The following 2 users would like to thank nic80 for this useful post: | | 
14.01.2011, 14:48
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks. I've only been to America once and have had my head filled with images of gun toting, bible bashing scary people by the press and print media. Then I met an elitist snot sorry "gentleman" who was very clear that on the social ladder in America I was lower than low as I am just a wife and don't have a university education (I did degrees and trade certificates). He told me that the only thing I had going for me was that Americans love Australian accents and I am planning on studying. I wasn't able to give him a piece of my mind as he is married to my husbands boss . So yeah, I'm nervous...
We enjoyed our stay in San Francisco but everyone we met was very clear that SF is a bubble in America and that the rest of the country is not nearly as accepting. | | | | | What a jerk.  And that's all I'll say about him...
You might enjoy this thread - from someone who went to the heart of "gun toting bible bashing" territory and survived!
People right across the country are generally lovely - even the ones who spout bigoted nonsense are usually decent enough in one-to-one interactions. "Foreigners this, gays that - oh, dear no, not you, you're all right!"*
The problem is just that it's a big country and plenty of people in SF don't really know firsthand what it's like elsewhere - only what they get on the news - which is pretty much the same picture you've been getting yourself. (And the same holds true in reverse: SF is commonly acknowledged - by people who've never been there - to be a hotbed of vice and a seething den of iniquity, second only to Las Vegas.)
SF is a bit special but not half so special as it thinks itself.
*You've probably heard the same thing in Switzerland - Swiss people complaining about "all these foreigners" - but of course none of it applies to any of the foreigners they know personally, oh no! Human nature, that is.
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14.01.2011, 15:49
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| | Re: Have you made yourself and your husband miserable? | Quote: | |  | | | What a jerk. And that's all I'll say about him...
You might enjoy this thread - from someone who went to the heart of "gun toting bible bashing" territory and survived!
People right across the country are generally lovely - even the ones who spout bigoted nonsense are usually decent enough in one-to-one interactions. "Foreigners this, gays that - oh, dear no, not you, you're all right!"*
The problem is just that it's a big country and plenty of people in SF don't really know firsthand what it's like elsewhere - only what they get on the news - which is pretty much the same picture you've been getting yourself. (And the same holds true in reverse: SF is commonly acknowledged - by people who've never been there - to be a hotbed of vice and a seething den of iniquity, second only to Las Vegas.)
SF is a bit special but not half so special as it thinks itself.
*You've probably heard the same thing in Switzerland - Swiss people complaining about "all these foreigners" - but of course none of it applies to any of the foreigners they know personally, oh no! Human nature, that is. | | | | | Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thank you for such a rational and honest reply. You've managed to make me laugh and dissipate much of my fear  .
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