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Old 18.11.2010, 22:16
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Heart murmur in children

Dear all,

I have been trying to keep my mind busy to not freak up since now more than a week.

Last week, my daughter's doctor told me that he could hear a murmur from her heart and that it wasn't the first time. He didn't want to say something the first time because it could have been from the fever. But this time, she was in perfect shape and he could hear it very well.

So he is sending us to see a cardologist to do some test and look at her heart.

I did manage to keep my calm after the news, with a tad of panicking that I did killed after plenty of research on the internet. I understood that it was pretty common and didn't have much bad news coming from the first diagnosis. That a child with heart condition will have some development problem (maybe will not grow as fast as the other kids, etc)

After I saw all the informations available, I was feeling more relaxed. But I finally got her appointment and it goes in 3 weeks! Much more time to panic now...

My concerns are that:

-We have plenty of heart disease in my side of the family
-She does cough every single time that she is running around (which could come for potential asthma and not heart but is also a symptom of heart disease)
-If it wasn't nothing to worry about, I would believe that the doctor wouldn't send her to see a cardiologist... (I know, better to check for sure)

What I want from you, it's some recomfort and maybe some experience from parents who went throw this as well? According to the numbers, it is enough common to believe that some parents here went throw this too.

From outside I look pretty calm but what is going on inside is pretty bad. I am having pain in the jaws from the stress....

I am trying hard to believe that there is nothing to worry about.

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Old 18.11.2010, 22:23
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Re: Heart murmur in children

My cousin has a heart murmur and problem which didn't bother him at all. It was detected at 24 and he was told that he had ever done drugs then maybe it would have caused a heart attack...luckily he's a clean living kind of guy who runs one of the biggest nightclubs in the city...just not a 'user'...

A family friend has had a heart problem all his life, he finally had surgery at 60 years old.

Plenty of other stories like that - as well as more drastic ones...

Really, there's not much to do except wait for the appointment. Regardless of how 'serious' it is, you are totally justified in having a freak out and trying to be 'calm on the outside' regardless...

Talking about it helps. And brace yourself if you have to go to the kids hospital - you will see plenty of sick children much worse than your own child - that can be hard to deal with too...
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Old 18.11.2010, 22:28
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Re: Heart murmur in children

Nil, Heart murmers are very common in young children and babies. My doctor heard one when he listened to my son and like you I was freaking out but everything was alright after a thorough examination at the hospital.
It is right that she should visit the hospital just in case there is something wrong but please do not try to get too worried - you do not want to stress out in your condition and remember that they are common in young children.
Let us know how she gets on
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Old 18.11.2010, 22:30
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Re: Heart murmur in children

A heart murmur is not really a "heart condition" per se. It's very common. I have a heart murmur and no doctor even mentions it when I put it down in my health chart. I promise contrary to what it might come across on this forum, I do NOT and never have had any sort of developmental problem.

Get it checked out but don't worry.
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Old 18.11.2010, 22:32
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Nil, Heart murmers are very common in young children and babies. My doctor heard one when he listened to my son and like you I was freaking out but everything was alright after a thorough examination at the hospital.
It is right that she should visit the hospital just in case there is something wrong but please do not try to get too worried - you do not want to stress out in your condition and remember that they are common in young children.
Let us know how she gets on
What they told you it was after the test and check up?
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Old 18.11.2010, 22:40
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What they told you it was after the test and check up?

If I remember ( my son is 22 now) my GP made an appt at the hospital where the paediatrician did an ultrasound and informed us that all was fine the same day.
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Old 18.11.2010, 22:55
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Re: Heart murmur in children

My niece was diagnosed with a heart murmur as a baby. She is a little over 2 1/2 now and is fine.
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Old 18.11.2010, 23:09
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Re: Heart murmur in children

Dear Nil, I know such news can completely freak a mum out, but be positive. Wish you lots of energy in the current situation.
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Old 18.11.2010, 23:15
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If I remember ( my son is 22 now) my GP made an appt at the hospital where the paediatrician did an ultrasound and informed us that all was fine the same day.
And mine had an ultra-sound and under went open heart surgery as a toddler.

All in a life Nil sweetheart, all in a life.

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Old 18.11.2010, 23:24
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Re: Heart murmur in children

I had a similar scare a few weeks ago. My 13 year old daughter is an athlete and made it to the Swiss national team (of a particular sport). As part of it, she went to a sports doctor to do some test, including a cardiogram. A few weeks later, I received a call from her doctor. She started the conversation by telling me not to panic, which of course prepped me to panic. She said that there was something strange with her cardiogram, and that she reviewed it with a heart specialist, and that the heart specialist wanted to see us right away. Of course I got worried.

We met the heart specialist and he explained the cardiogram showed that my daughter had Long Q-T syndrome, a heart rhythm disorder. He should us the pattern. So they attached the monitor to my daughter for a 24 hour period to record her heart pattern throughout the day. When they reviewed the recording a few days later, they were not able to find the Long Q-T pattern.

This leaves me to believe that children go through changes as they develop. Such conditions are not necessary permanent, but I choose to err on the side of caution.

About a year ago, we saw a doctor who did some skeletal measurements, readings and calculations and predicted with certainty how tall my daughter would get. My daughter's reaction was, "Does that mean I can't model?" But less than a year later, she grew so quickly that she is just a few centimeters shy of the doctor's prediction, and she hasn't stopped growing. I am certain the doctor will be totally wrong with his prediction. Which leaves me to believe that different doctors will have different assessments of a particular situation.

Don't worry, you're daughter will be fine.
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Old 18.11.2010, 23:47
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Re: Heart murmur in children

Yes there is no need to worry unnecessarily.
Only very few have a serious condition.

And even those who do have a condition requiring surgery, after all is corrected, they lead normal healthy lives. And they grooooow tall
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Old 18.11.2010, 23:54
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Lot's of good advice above. Thinking of you - hope you can stop worrying so much (mind you as a mum and a granny, I'd do the same). Tell us how you get on.
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Old 18.11.2010, 23:57
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Re: Heart murmur in children

Oh Nil, you must be so worried big hugs to you. But do try not to be. It's not necessarily a bad thing - and as you said very common.

My husband actually has a heart murmur also - it was only discovered when he was playing football a few years ago and had a completely unrelated accident (knee problem) which left him in hospital a couple of days. They said he had probably had this all his life, just never been noted before. They sent him for all kinds of tests - he even wore a heart monitor to check it out over the course of a week. In the end they could find nothing wrong with his heart.

So, right now there's nothing you can actually do, so try and take it easy and forget about it a bit. Go for the tests and then deal with anything that happens after that.

Take care, and really hope it turns out to be nothing at all
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Old 19.11.2010, 08:43
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Re: Heart murmur in children

Thank you All!

What makes it a bit more scary is the history of heart disease in the family. My Grand-mother had angina and was under meds for it and died of a strong and sudden heart attack. My mother does have a murmur and she lives pretty well but do get tired faster. I don't want to ask her more details because I will stress the hell out of her.

Some other family members had some hearts problems too but I don't know the details.

So this is why I am so stressed. If we didn't have any cases, I would have push it away without any doubt in my mind until the test, but with this history....

She doesn't show any problems. She runs like crazy, she never stops and I am the one puffing behind her trying to keep to beat.

She does cough every time she runs a little bit, and I kepp telling her doctor about it, but he says it his too early to see if it his asthma. Since she can breath normally without help or meds and this just happens in actions. This could be ''just'' asthma on effort.

I am trying to keep it calm. Too chill out and not to worry. But I am telling ya, not an easy task...

Where is this Israel-Palestine thread to fight a bit and take it out of my chest?

Thanks for your support.

Phos, I am happy to know they didn't find something. I am curious what brings them to think it is something and find out it is nothing.... You know, if the doctor do a check up in many occasions instead to hear it once or twice and let straight go to a cardio... Could take a lot of stress of the parent's shoulders.
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Re: Heart murmur in children

At birth I was diagnosed with a heart mumur, mitral valve prolapse, and a septal defect (small hole in the heart). Until I was a teenager I took medicine before going to the dentist to protect against any infected blood from a prick of the gums that might find its way into the bloodstream. This and yearly exams were the only 'issues' I had to deal with until I was about 12 years old when everything finally closed/healed on its own. I played sports and was a normal active child and am 25 years old now and pregnant and feeling great. My family also has a bad history of heart disease. My dad had a 'silent' heart attack at 58 which almost killed him but with all the new medicine and treatment and a healthy lifestyle he is 63 in great condition and has now lived the longest out of 3 generations of men.

All this to say, things may seem scary but the majority of the time things correct on their own. Good luck with the appointment and stay positive. Murmurs are more common than you'd think!
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Re: Heart murmur in children

Nothing to add to the above advice. Don't panic. It is not uncommon in children. I was diagnosed at the same age and it completely disappeared.
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Phos, I am happy to know they didn't find something. I am curious what brings them to think it is something and find out it is nothing.... You know, if the doctor do a check up in many occasions instead to hear it once or twice and let straight go to a cardio... Could take a lot of stress of the parent's shoulders.
Call me cynical, but my suspicions were that perhaps the cardiologists had some timeslots to fill for more patients. But I find the doctors here in Switzerland are very professional. We're fortunate they are responsible enough to refer us to a cardiologist right away. I imagine in other places they would choose to wait. It is best to identify problems early if there is one. If there is a problem, then we can do regular monitoring and take precautions. Even if there is a problem, people with heart murmurs can still live long and healthy lives. So err on the side of safety, but don't worry to the point of causing you stress. That wouldn't be healthy for your daughter's mom, would it?


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Re: Heart murmur in children

I've got one as well.

It was found a few years ago when I was having a battery of tests done for something else.

To be honest, I had forgotten all about it until I read this thread!


So, hopefully nothing to worry about.
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Re: Heart murmur in children

I've got MVP - no problems. I just take antibiotics before going to the dentist.

My father also has it, as does my stepmother - both in their 50's and no problems with it at all.

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Phew! Pretty common! I wish I didn't wait and came on here last week to get opinions!
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