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30.12.2010, 00:55
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First, Canadian here, but with EU citizenship through my father. His company is wanting to open a Euro branch and i'm going to be the rep. If as profitable as it should be, it would be very large as a lot of the business would be Russian natural gas.
Now as anyone knows from legend Switzerland is seen as a tax haven. While less than France-my immediate choice is to live in Paris-the taxes seem higher than what i thought.
I plan on buying a place, probably in Lugano (I speak decent Italian and French-better weather wins out over Montreux or Lausanne) and will spend the requisite time in Switzerland for tax status.
So assuming i'm tax resident stemming from EU citizenship, own property, have a branch of a Canadian company registered in Switzerland but most likely doing the bulk of business outside or with foreign companies, and have a fair sum sitting in a bank collecting interest which i may or may not tap, does it make tax sense to live in Switzerland and have the branch based there? Are there resources to figure out tax rates both personal and corporate? (i read that owning proerty helps, but not sure how or how much) Any ideas about resources as to the legal issues of setting up a branch?
I understand the cantonal tax in Ticino added to the federal tax is about 40% compared to the top rate of about 62% in France-if i understood correctly-but 40% isnt really "low" and i'm wondering if i'm missing something with regards to switzerland as a tax haven...
(putting aside the quality of life issues for now, i want stricly numbers)
thanks in advance
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30.12.2010, 02:04
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| | Re: Q's about income tax, buying property, coporate laws/ tax etc
Have you done any searching around yet on the site? I know it's sometimes difficult. But I'll start you off with this thread: Why move to Switzerland?
The title is vague but it should help you some.
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30.12.2010, 06:54
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| | Re: Q's about income tax, buying property, coporate laws/ tax etc
Canton Zug and Canton Schwyz have the lowest taxes in the country.
They are known for having Mail Box companies( Briefkastenfirmen ) that
only receive mail where they are registered.
You could register your company in Zug and have a branch in Ticino.
As a side note: As a person with an EU passport, you will receive a B permit. You would be allowed to buy property, but you cannot rent it
out to others. i.e. you can live there as your personal property only.
Good luck!
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30.12.2010, 08:09
| | Re: Q's about income tax, buying property, coporate laws/ tax etc | Quote: | |  | | | First, Canadian here, but with EU citizenship through my father. His company is wanting to open a Euro branch and i'm going to be the rep. If as profitable as it should be, it would be very large as a lot of the business would be Russian natural gas. | | | | | If this business is so hot, why dont' you just go and seek the advice of a profesional tax adviser ?
What you'll get here is a mish-mash of truth and half truths, totaly clouding the situation and resulting in an expensive experience of hiring lawyers and accountants to put it right.
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30.12.2010, 10:26
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| | Re: Q's about income tax, buying property, coporate laws/ tax etc | Quote: | |  | | | Canton Zug and Canton Schwyz have the lowest taxes in the country.
They are known for having Mail Box companies( Briefkastenfirmen ) that
only receive mail where they are registered.
You could register your company in Zug and have a branch in Ticino.
As a side note: As a person with an EU passport, you will receive a B permit. You would be allowed to buy property, but you cannot rent it
out to others. i.e. you can live there as your personal property only.
Good luck! | | | | | i'd buy the house/ apartment as a summer home type and a stop over for ski trips. Never planned to rent it out. (i'd live in Paris over the winter months)
so corporate tax rates only apply to the canton in which the company is registered, not where a branch is located or the majority of business is done?
as a side note, when it says that country X considers one a tax resident if they live somewhere 120/ 180 etc days, how is that kept track of? If i bought a place in Switzerland and i cannot rent it out, am i automatically considered a tax resident, regardless of days spent? (I would imagine if i spent the 183 days in France then that tax resident status would supercede the swiss...?)
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30.12.2010, 10:29
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| | Re: Q's about income tax, buying property, coporate laws/ tax etc | Quote: |  | | | If this business is so hot, why dont' you just go and seek the advice of a profesional tax adviser ?
What you'll get here is a mish-mash of truth and half truths, totaly clouding the situation and resulting in an expensive experience of hiring lawyers and accountants to put it right. | | | | | I've been trying to get basics on Switzerland, Monaco, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, France and England as far as taxes go, then when i get the overall picture of what would be to the best advantage, get some professional council, as i'll be in Europe this summer...
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30.12.2010, 12:00
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| | Re: Q's about income tax, buying property, coporate laws/ tax etc | Quote: | |  | | | I've been trying to get basics on Switzerland, Monaco, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, France and England as far as taxes go, then when i get the overall picture of what would be to the best advantage, get some professional council, as i'll be in Europe this summer... | | | | | why not ireland? corporation tax is 12.5% A lot of other multi nationals (Dell, Google, Amazon, etc) do exactly what you are trying to achieve
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