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06.01.2011, 14:30
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, they should pay interest if they are the cause of the delay, but why should I pay them interest if they are causing the delay? | | | | | i don't quite understand that.
If your FIRST official deadline is 31st March, you did not ask for an extension, you submit before that date and they calculate that you owe them money are you saying that you also have to pay interest on the debt from 31st March to date of request of settlement?
I have no experience of that but I would be surprised if it were like that. Interest from the an extension date perhaps but not from the first official date.
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12.07.2011, 14:21
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | We just paid our 2009 taxes last month.
They will find you soon enough. | | | | | We just received a tax bill for 2009 for 11,000 CHF. Is this normal? We thought that we were taxed at source, and were not expecting a huge bill so long after the event?
My husband earned below the 120k threshold, whereas I earned above the 120k threshold - how should we split this bill?
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12.07.2011, 14:40
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | We just received a tax bill for 2009 for 11,000 CHF. Is this normal? We thought that we were taxed at source, and were not expecting a huge bill so long after the event?
My husband earned below the 120k threshold, whereas I earned above the 120k threshold - how should we split this bill? | | | | | I think you should pay all of it; I am sure my wife would | The following 3 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
12.07.2011, 15:46
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | We just received a tax bill for 2009 for 11,000 CHF. Is this normal? We thought that we were taxed at source, and were not expecting a huge bill so long after the event? | | | | | I would certainly double-check this. As I've already mentioned, we got a tax bill of 6000 this year and after checking, it turned out that the tax office had made a mistake and we got a refund instead.
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12.07.2011, 15:52
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | We just received a tax bill for 2009 for 11,000 CHF. Is this normal? We thought that we were taxed at source, and were not expecting a huge bill so long after the event?
My husband earned below the 120k threshold, whereas I earned above the 120k threshold - how should we split this bill? | | | | | If only one of you were working your taxes would be correct from the deduction,. however in CH a working wife will pay higher taxes as wives are supposed to be at home & not working. So based on that you should pay, however you may have other idears especially if your husband has not seen my answer.
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12.07.2011, 16:02
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | We just received a tax bill for 2009 for 11,000 CHF. Is this normal? We thought that we were taxed at source, and were not expecting a huge bill so long after the event? | | | | | Was it really a bill? Like the orange thingy?
I ask this because we have also received a letter for the taxes of 2008 last week, with an absurd amount writen on it. It was not a bill though. It was an information slip on how much taxes we should have paid. As in, a little heads up "we are now looking into your file. This is how much you should have paid, we are checking how much you paid". We are still waiting for the real bill (hopefully no extra payment is necessary).
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12.07.2011, 16:04
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | I would certainly double-check this. As I've already mentioned, we got a tax bill of 6000 this year and after checking, it turned out that the tax office had made a mistake and we got a refund instead. | | | | | Forgot to say; if you do have to pay this then it is quite usual to ask to pay in instalments over a longer period
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12.07.2011, 16:09
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | Was it really a bill? Like the orange thingy?
I ask this because we have also received a letter for the taxes of 2008 last week, with an absurd amount writen on it. It was not a bill though. It was an information slip on how much taxes we should have paid. As in, a little heads up "we are now looking into your file. This is how much you should have paid, we are checking how much you paid". We are still waiting for the real bill (hopefully no extra payment is necessary). | | | | | Yeah, maybe you are lucky and do not have to pay anything.
I got a letter yesterday for 2009 from the Tax department in the old gemiende where I lived then. They said I paid less taxes than I should have paid.
But the quellenstueuer (tax at source) deductions on the salary certificates suggested otherwise. I had paid more.
So, called them up and asked.
Turns out, out of the quellensteuer, some goes for national taxes, some for local taxes.
So, the gemeinde guys got only a part of the quellensteuer, which turned out to be less than what was expected.
I would think that the rates for quellensteuer would be such that this does not happen. But it does, and did.
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12.07.2011, 22:50
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet
I'm taxed at source and after sending in a claim last autumn, I got my 2009 refund for mileage and professional expenses a few months back. Can't complain about 10kCHF  . Just sent in the 2010 claim, now that we're up to speed with the new law.
The excellent Geneva tax expert, who got the new law pushed through, says (blog on Tribune de Geneve) that we can also back claim for 2007 and 2008. I'll post the info when I find out how.
Unlikely as it may sound, the Geneva tax authorities seem to be very helpful and efficient.
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12.07.2011, 23:06
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | |
Unlikely as it may sound, the Geneva tax authorities seem to be very helpful and efficient.
| | | | | I went to see them about reclaiming US dividends, the lady was very helpful & spoke good English. She said if I had any more questions just phone or email!
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16.07.2011, 14:26
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet
I got a letter from kanton zurich saying i would get like 3000 chf back, yay!
Then yesterday i recieved another letter, possibly from the federation, saying i should pay like 3000!!
I didnt pay quellensteuer 2009 but instead got help from someone who did my taxes and told me how much i should pay. Then i just went to the post and paid what the treuhand guy told me to pay. Should i have paid once to the kanton and then to the federation or what is going on?
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16.07.2011, 18:37
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | I got a letter from kanton zurich saying i would get like 3000 chf back, yay!
Then yesterday i recieved another letter, possibly from the federation, saying i should pay like 3000!!
I didnt pay quellensteuer 2009 but instead got help from someone who did my taxes and told me how much i should pay. Then i just went to the post and paid what the treuhand guy told me to pay. Should i have paid once to the kanton and then to the federation or what is going on? | | | | | You get 2 seperate bills, sounds like you paid ZH too much by mistake, use the refund to pay the federation.
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23.08.2011, 10:56
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, they should pay interest if they are the cause of the delay, but why should I pay them interest if they are causing the delay? | | | | | This. Last week, I received a bill which listed CHF 150 on top of the payable tax amount. Why am I supposed to pay interest for something I can't control (i.e. them taking 2 years to process my tax return)?
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23.08.2011, 19:02
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | This. Last week, I received a bill which listed CHF 150 on top of the payable tax amount. Why am I supposed to pay interest for something I can't control (i.e. them taking 2 years to process my tax return)? | | | | | It's easy enough to calculate your own tax bill & pay what you owe in advance. Overpay & they will refund with interest.
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25.08.2011, 00:21
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet
why the tax fining takes , such a long time any idea ?
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25.08.2011, 10:56
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | why the tax fining takes , such a long time any idea ? | | | | | What is the rush? If people pay what they owe it does not matter .
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25.08.2011, 12:02
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | What is the rush? If people pay what they owe it does not matter . | | | | |
Because if you're taxed at source and you've paid too much they are sitting on your money.
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25.08.2011, 14:34
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | Because if you're taxed at source and you've paid too much they are sitting on your money. | | | | | Go to your tax office & rattle their cage then, very easy however dont be surprised to hear you owe them money.....
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25.08.2011, 16:33
| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet
Unfortunately, that's how it is. I have been receiving mine also two years after. The last one close to CHF 1700, and one one before that CHF 5000.
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25.08.2011, 23:53
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| | Re: 2009 tax return filed, but heard nothing back yet | Quote: | |  | | | Because if you're taxed at source and you've paid too much they are sitting on your money. | | | | | on which they will pay YOU the best interest rate available in CH, applied from the submission date on your tax forms or the actual date you submitted after that date if you asked for an extension.
it works both ways: it's the best interest rate loan or the best savings rate in CH.
unless you would prefer to gamble with your money on the stock market in the current climate!
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