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Free Import Duty: "trousseau de marriage" (car)

Hello,

I was browsing how to get cheaper "import" fee for the car import, and I found that you can import your car free if it's withing 6 months of your marriage.
They also don't force you to own the vehicle for any duration for that type of free import (they do force you to own the vehicle for simple moving in switzerland).

Anyone did that?
It seems quite ideal, you get cheaper car abroad and can import it free...

Source (french):
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=fr
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Re: Free Import Duty: "trousseau de marriage" (car)

Compared to a wife, the cost of a car pales into insignificance !
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Re: Free Import Duty: "trousseau de marriage" (car)

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Did anyone imported a car that way?

I read the official text, it does not mention anything about when you buy the car...

If it is a "wedding present", I suppose you need to buy it before the wedding-
Although it might not matters?
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Re: Free Import Duty: "trousseau de marriage" (car)

Haven't tried, but the customs code states that it is applicable if you marry someone living in Switzerland and then transfer your domicile. So I don't think you can use this if you are already officially living here and only then get married. The main difference between this and regular moving is exactly the prior ownership requirement, allows you to import wedding presents you have not used
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Haven't tried, but the customs code states that it is applicable if you marry someone living in Switzerland and then transfer your domicile. So I don't think you can use this if you are already officially living here and only then get married. The main difference between this and regular moving is exactly the prior ownership requirement, allows you to import wedding presents you have not used
Hm thanks,
So then it's only about saying the car is "owned by the future wife"- my issue is that technically after standard marriage, all "properties" are in common (ie owned by both).

So I understand what you said, but she would marry someone living in Switzerland and then transfer her domicile-

(which makes not much sense because it's easy to trick)

So if it will be a car as a "wedding present" it will be owned by both... and then she would move here, with someone living in ch...
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The main difference between this and regular moving is exactly the prior ownership requirement, allows you to import wedding presents you have not used
Ho, I read that also:

It does not say that for the "trousseau de marriage" (source:
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=fr )
In french it says the car you received as wedding present... (so no "prior ownership requirement I think)
in the English version it says something different ( you may import your removal goods and the wedding gifts which you will receive abroad free of tax.)

Ok thanks anyway, I might contact the official office and I will share their answer here.
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Hm thanks,
So then it's only about saying the car is "owned by the future wife"- my issue is that technically after standard marriage, all "properties" are in common (ie owned by both).

So I understand what you said, but she would marry someone living in Switzerland and then transfer her domicile-

(which makes not much sense because it's easy to trick)

So if it will be a car as a "wedding present" it will be owned by both... and then she would move here, with someone living in ch...
I think you are reading too much into this. They are clearly talking about items that were owned by the spouse prior to being married.

"Seules exigences: les objets importés doivent avoir été utilisés personnellement à l'étranger pendant au moins 6 mois et vous devrez continuer de les utiliser personnellement en Suisse."

What are you saying can be easy to trick and how can this tricking be done?

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Ho, I read that also:

It does not say that for the "trousseau de marriage" (source:
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=fr )
In french it says the car you received as wedding present... (so no "prior ownership requirement I think)
in the English version it says something different ( you may import your removal goods and the wedding gifts which you will receive abroad free of tax.)

Ok thanks anyway, I might contact the official office and I will share their answer here.
First, it doesn't say "the car you received as a wedding present". It says votre trousseaux de mariage (y compris un véhicule) Trousseaux de mariage are the things you bring with you to the marriage, ie the stuff you own (including a car) which are bring into the family/household. They are not the wedding gifts. And you see next is says "ainsi que les cadeaux de mariage que vous aurez reçus à l'étranger. " which means as well as the wedding gifts you received abroad.

NOW, your really question is whether you can buy a car abroad and say it was a wedding gift in order to bring it in tax free..... You'll have to ask the customs agents about that. Personally, I doubt it... But hey, you can try. Let us know what they say when you call them.
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Re: Free Import Duty: "trousseau de marriage" (car)

Thanks,
I think the 6 months requirement thing is only for the "case n°1"
If you look closely it's like that:

Effets de déménagement, trousseaux de mariage et effets de succession

Déménagement de l'étranger en Suisse (effets de déménagement)
Mariage (trousseaux de mariage)
Héritage (effets de sucession)

It's like 3 separate case scenarii.


For the tricky bit, it's about case 2:
The stuffs "owned by the person who will come join the person in Switzerland". I mean it's easy to trick because as soon as you are married, "goods" are in common. Therefore they are no longer "his/her stuffs" but "their stuffs".
So that's why I say it's easy to trick- One can say the stuffs was the other half property although it's yours- You can not officially differentiate because it's owned by both of them. (of course if the 6 months possession thing does not apply for Trousseau de mariage).



But you might be right, I might be reading too much into it-
I contacted them, let's wait and see.


PS: Ho and for the car as a present for the wedding, I read somewhere else official that it can be a "wedding present" and therefore, no import taxes-
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The stuffs "owned by the person who will come join the person in Switzerland". I mean it's easy to trick because as soon as you are married, "goods" are in common. Therefore they are no longer "his/her stuffs" but "their stuffs".
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actually in most legal systems, the property that the parties had before marriage does not become joint, but will remain their separate property. Depending on the law governing your marital property regieme, of course.

As I understand the website (English version, so might be different) then yes, you could bring over a car that was given as a wedding present. English version specifies though that "Duty-free entry is restricted to objects which had been in the previous state of domicile of the immigrating marriage partner in free circulation." So to qualify, you can't marry someone resident in say, UK, and when she moves, also bring over a car registered in Germany.

6-month previous ownership rule only applies for general immigrants (Customs Ordinance art 14) and not for Marriage (art 15). It does not specify about cars, but it clearly states that in case of marriage, you can also bring over "newly-acquired household goods,". And if you compare articles 14 and 15 and forms 18.44 and 18.45, clearly the 6-month previous use requirement is not there for the latter (wedding).

So if you ask your wife to buy a car in her previous country of residence and she then moves over to CH to join you - then I don't see any reason why it should not be tax-free.
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Thanks,
I think the 6 months requirement thing is only for the "case n°1"
If you look closely it's like that:

Effets de déménagement, trousseaux de mariage et effets de succession

Déménagement de l'étranger en Suisse (effets de déménagement)
Mariage (trousseaux de mariage)
Héritage (effets de sucession)

It's like 3 separate case scenarii.


For the tricky bit, it's about case 2:
The stuffs "owned by the person who will come join the person in Switzerland". I mean it's easy to trick because as soon as you are married, "goods" are in common. Therefore they are no longer "his/her stuffs" but "their stuffs".
So that's why I say it's easy to trick- One can say the stuffs was the other half property although it's yours- You can not officially differentiate because it's owned by both of them. (of course if the 6 months possession thing does not apply for Trousseau de mariage).



But you might be right, I might be reading too much into it-
I contacted them, let's wait and see.


PS: Ho and for the car as a present for the wedding, I read somewhere else official that it can be a "wedding present" and therefore, no import taxes-

It's not relevant if things become the property of both of you AFTER the wedding. Gifts after all are given after the wedding.

You are right about case #2. The items can be new or used:

Here is a link to the PDF with more info:

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...gpKfo&typ=.pdf

Let us know what they say about the car!

ETA: And as Ulla says, not all marriages implicate all property becoming joint property. There are marriage regimes where each keeps their own property which they owned before the marriage separately. You can also keep inheritance separate.
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