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To declare or not

Good afternoon forum.
First I hope is the proper section of the forum and secondly I hope there are no other topics like this but I swear I used the search tool without success.

So, let's go to the point.
I live in Zurich since sept. 2011 but my official moving date was only last Tuesday (5th april).
This means that I still have my lovely car with a foreign plate (not Swiss yet).
Now, we plan to go Germany this week end to have some lovely shopping, including meat and possibly a great and huge BBQ and for sure we will exceed the limit of 300CHF.
On the way back to Switzerland, do you think I must declare these goods or in case they would control me, can I declare that I'm just passing by Switzerland to go to France or Italy and avoid any fine?

Thank to you gurus for supporting me with this tremendous doubt :-D
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Old 07.04.2011, 18:24
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Re: To declare or not

I'll petch the fopcorn.

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Old 07.04.2011, 18:27
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Re: To declare or not

No chance. Whether you are Swiss-plated or not, you have to declare it. If you get stopped and you didn't declare it, you will be fined.
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Old 07.04.2011, 18:27
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Re: To declare or not

If you live in zurich since sept.2011, it means you not only travel to Germany but also back from future. They won't see you according to relativity law.
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Old 07.04.2011, 18:29
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Good afternoon forum.
First I hope is the proper section of the forum and secondly I hope there are no other topics like this but I swear I used the search tool without success.

So, let's go to the point.
I live in Zurich since sept. 2011 but my official moving date was only last Tuesday (5th april).
This means that I still have my lovely car with a foreign plate (not Swiss yet).
Now, we plan to go Germany this week end to have some lovely shopping, including meat and possibly a great and huge BBQ and for sure we will exceed the limit of 300CHF.
On the way back to Switzerland, do you think I must declare these goods or in case they would control me, can I declare that I'm just passing by Switzerland to go to France or Italy and avoid any fine?

Thank to you gurus for supporting me with this tremendous doubt :-D
According to an Italian that I know here, in his words, when blatantly breaking a traffic law, "It's okay, I'm Italian, it's allowed!"

Go ahead... make their day....
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Old 07.04.2011, 18:30
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If you live in zurich since sept.2011, it means you not only travel to Germany but also back from future. They won't see you according to relativity law.
Damn! Beat me to it.

To stay "on topic", you should declare it. No question. The penalties (for not claiming it) far outweigh the gains.
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Old 07.04.2011, 18:30
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Good afternoon forum.
First I hope is the proper section of the forum and secondly I hope there are no other topics like this but I swear I used the search tool without success.

So, let's go to the point.
I live in Zurich since sept. 2011 but my official moving date was only last Tuesday (5th april).
This means that I still have my lovely car with a foreign plate (not Swiss yet).
Now, we plan to go Germany this week end to have some lovely shopping, including meat and possibly a great and huge BBQ and for sure we will exceed the limit of 300CHF.
On the way back to Switzerland, do you think I must declare these goods or in case they would control me, can I declare that I'm just passing by Switzerland to go to France or Italy and avoid any fine?

Thank to you gurus for supporting me with this tremendous doubt :-D
If you declare, you can save paying German VAT, which is higher than Swiss VAT.

Tom
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Old 07.04.2011, 18:34
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If you declare, you can save paying German VAT, which is higher than Swiss VAT.

Tom
What he said: Paying the Swiss VAT and acting ethically and legally is even FUN if it means that you can save some additional 11 percent!

Before you ask: The detailed "how to" has been described about 124 times, just use the search function on "VAT"
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Re: To declare or not

I understood that the Swiss outlawed time travel back in 2064
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Re: To declare or not

If you have German plates the swiss customs are very unlikely to stop you , since thy look for Swissis trying to avoid VAT. so seeing a german coming in...

Otherwise just unpack it and say you just on the way to zurich for a bbq at zurich lake...
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If you have German plates the swiss customs are very unlikely to stop you , since thy look for Swissis trying to avoid VAT. so seeing a german coming in with lots of shopping bags and a huge bbq is not even a little suspicious...
Fixed that. Honestly: Swiss custom officers are not as stupid as some think and if there is one thing to know about them: They really heard it all before...
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What sort of number plates? They might not stop DE plates, but they might be a lot more suspicious about others. What do you look like? What sort of car do you drive. They make a very quick assessment based on all sort of criteria. Just not worth taking the risk imho. Go shopping and stick to your limit - ask for the VAT back on the BBQ and declare it properly and pay Swiss VAT. If you 'cheat' the system and they catch you, they could make your life a misery with all your papers.
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Re: To declare or not

Ok Ok Ok, it was a clear example of typos......of course I'm living in Zurich since sept. 2010
Well, I don't have a German plate but a simple Luxembourgish one.
I drive an SUV and we are a 4 people family, white, caucasian
Com' on, I agree that customs officers aren't stupid, but they should focus their effort on Swiss plates instead of someone possibly just transit over Switzerland.
In any case, got the point, better declare than doing tricky things.
Thanks for the VAT indication.....I'm not going to ask as I already asked to all my colleagues how to do that.

But I've a simple and stupid question for something not very clear to me:
- red meat, 0.5Kg/person. If I'm alone in the car and I want to import 1Kg, what is going to happen? Can I do it paying extra taxes or they will force to put half kilo on the German side of the border?

Thank you all, also to be so picky
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But I've a simple and stupid question for something not very clear to me:
- red meat, 0.5Kg/person. If I'm alone in the car and I want to import 1Kg, what is going to happen? Can I do it paying extra taxes or they will force to put half kilo on the German side of the border?
Declare it and pay the 20CHF kilo duty.
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Now, we plan to go Germany this week end to have some lovely shopping, including meat and possibly a great and huge BBQ and for sure we will exceed the limit of 300CHF.
Am I missing something here? They sell meat and barbecues here in Switzerland and I'm sure they let you blow more than 300.- anywhere.

No fuss, no mess, no faff about with the border rozzers.
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What sort of number plates? They might not stop DE plates, but they might be a lot more suspicious about others. What do you look like? What sort of car do you drive. They make a very quick assessment based on all sort of criteria. Just not worth taking the risk imho. Go shopping and stick to your limit - ask for the VAT back on the BBQ and declare it properly and pay Swiss VAT. If you 'cheat' the system and they catch you, they could make your life a misery with all your papers.
Good point indeed. When we has our german plate car, they used to stop us all the time when coming in or out of Switzerland with my turkish looking husband. At the moment we change for the Swiss plate, we never been stop ever again!

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No fuss, no mess, no faff about with the border rozzers.
Yes, you can. It cost you 2 to 3 times the price though!
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Yes, you can. It cost you 2 to 3 times the price though!
Last time we went shopping in Germany (late last Autumn) the meat wasn't that much cheaper than Migros. I was hankering after some lamb and was hoping for a bargain in a German supermarket. No such luck.

All we came back with was a new lamp and some storage boxes.
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Last time we went shopping in Germany (late last Autumn) the meat wasn't that much cheaper than Migros. I was hankering after some lamb and was hoping for a bargain in a German supermarket. No such luck.

All we came back with was a new lamp and some storage boxes.
That's suck!

But for us, we see a biiiiig difference. We go to one place in Weil Am Rhein for our meat and it is great and very much cheaper.
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Hope you didn't put them on the barbecue
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