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Re: The Euro project is one of the best and most visionary ones of the last 100 years

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We interrupt this rivetting thread...

...with the news that PJ Harvey has won this years Mercury Music Prize. Well done to her!

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Old 07.09.2011, 00:39
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You can groan as much as you want, if it makes you feel better...but I'm serious when I write that sooner or later the (dis)United Kingdom and their worthless currency will beg to enter the Euro. But I would keep them out, they would just cause trouble...
Stupid British colonial attitude..."We'll enter the Euro when the time is right...", the truth is...WE DON'T NEED AND WANT YOU! You don't have anything worth to give to the Eurozone.
And Norway dislikes the UK so much that it has donated the Christmas Tree in Trafalgar Square every year since 1947 for the help it received in WWII?
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WE DON'T NEED AND WANT YOU! You don't have anything worth to give to the Eurozone.
Good. We don't want the EU either, or your poxy artificial currency.

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P.S. By the way...when will you give Northern Ireland back to the rest of Ireland? In case you haven't studied history, or nobody teached you...Northern Ireland was for 1 day part of the Irish Free State, so the entire island has been formally united and independent in the past (6/12/1922).
I don't think the Republic wants it back, to be honest. Anyway, if you check even further back in history, the whole of Ireland once belonged to England, but no, we don't want that back either.
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There are currently some contingency problems, that will be solved in a definitive and long-term way with some adjustments on the political and financial organization of the Eurozone.
But of course you short-sighted Europhobes cannot understand this. I'll wait for the day when the UK will beg the Eurozone to let them enter...
look's like i was the only one who thought he was being sarcastic.
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There are currently some contingency problems, that will be solved in a definitive and long-term way with some adjustments on the political and financial organization of the Eurozone.
But of course you short-sighted Europhobes cannot understand this. I'll wait for the day when the UK will beg the Eurozone to let them enter...
The problem with Euro project is that it's clearly a long term thing.
More or less a sacrifice of 2,3 generations for a concept, an ideal (or a screwing over).

So the real question is can we allow politicians/government to screw 2, 3 generations minimum for an ideal?

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I have some concerns about it, although it offers some good things as well, like we can go to any European countries with no visa.
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look's like i was the only one who thought he was being sarcastic.
TBH, that's why I thought he was trolling. No-one in their right mind could actually believe what he wrote, could they?
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TBH, that's why I thought he was trolling. No-one in their right mind could actually believe what he wrote, could they?
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You can groan as much as you want, if it makes you feel better...but I'm serious when I write that sooner or later the (dis)United Kingdom and their worthless currency will beg to enter the Euro.
You are god and you can predict the future?
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But I would keep them out, they would just cause trouble...
Oh, no, you are José Manuel Barroso.
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Stupid British colonial attitude...
Let me be perfectly clear on this one...
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Standing together, even in difficult times, is a sign of greater civilization, than isolating ourselves, falsely claiming to be better, and laugh at others (while your boat is sinking...is this what you call "British humor"?)
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Enjoy your next Quantitative Easing...
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I see also from the threads about the measures taken by the Swiss Central Bank today...many don't care about the status of their host country's exports, many are only worried about "me me me"...the holiday in Austria which is now more expensive, the border shopping which is now more expensive, etc...who cares if the exports and tourism were going down the drain? Not my problem...for many the problem is sacking as much and as quickly as possible, not building something sustainable on a long-term.
Uri Geller, is that you....stop reading our minds.
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P.S. By the way...when will you give Northern Ireland back to the rest of Ireland? In case you haven't studied history, or nobody teached you...Northern Ireland was for 1 day part of the Irish Free State, so the entire island has been formally united and independent in the past (6/12/1922).
Michael Collins???? I am getting really confused.

Oh well, I guess all my guesses to your true identity have been proven wrong and that your are infact....

Although, honestly, possibly less intelligent and more bigoted than your cousin in the picture above.

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Re: The Euro project is one of the best and most visionary ones of the last 100 years

Bare with me a moment - BUT the Euro (in theory) should/could/would work.

Every political region has rich bits (say Kusnacht, ZH) and poor bits (say Winterthur). The rich bits contribute a load of money - which the poor bits benefit from**.

It all works fine and dandy as long as the policies are centrally maintained - and consistent across all regions.

When it fails, is when policies are decided on at a sub-regional level. Which is exactly what happened in the EURO-zone. Each country was able to decide its own fiscal policies. The rich paid for the poor (welcome to socialism 101) - and in many of the cases - the poor failed to have adequate polices to ensure they stopped being poor.

Greece and co didn't have to go down the path they chose. Those in power had the option to use the money correctly - to push through social reform (a raising of the retirement age for example) - and develop their economy in a sustainable manner.

As it is now clear to see - that didn't happen.

A single currency across a vast economic region does make sense - as long as the regions fiscal policy is centrally and sustainably managed.


**For reference - within the Kanton of Zurich the tax paid by Kusnacht to the Kanton to support the poorer communties - is matched by the amount Winterthur takes out.
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Re: The Euro project is one of the best and most visionary ones of the last 100 years

Tomorrow's Financial Times headline.....

"Kusnacht to exit the Swiss Franc single currency citing reckless spending by Winterthur"
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Now go and find somewhere else to be a fool!
Oh, don't say that!!! I'm quite enjoying this particular style of foolery - I mean, an Italian lecturing the rest of us on fiscal propriety and social probity


Anyway, back to the show - what you were sayin' there, weener?

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Angela Merkel?
She'd certainly say that kind of thing, but I doubt she believes it herself.
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Re: The Euro project is one of the best and most visionary ones of the last 100 years

Hear hear.

I have to say that in principle, the Euro is a good idea. In practice it's not turned out too splendidly at the moment. Part of the problem (as you point out) is that some countries have failed to act in a responsible fashion and rather than put their houses in order have chosen to live on the never never and get Germany et al to pay for it. I think that unless such countries behave properly they should be kicked out of the Euro.

Look at this way, you have a friend, let's call him Yanni, or perhaps Pablo, or even Mario. He's perpetually skint, shabby clothes, half-built house, you get the picture. Now along comes a new scheme allowing your friend to borrow a load of money. He's supposed to fix up the house, smarten himself up etc but instead, he decides to throw lavish parties to celebrate some anniversary or other, he buys a fantastic new 47 inch LED television and looks forward to his early retirement. Then suddenly, the bank wants the money back. What does Yanni do? He taps you for a quick bung of a few grand but instead of using it to pay off the debt to the bank, he goes on holiday to somewhere exotic. Naturally, you are a little disappointed.
Now thingsa re getting serious for Yanni. The bank have told him he'd better pay the money back soon or bad things will happen - he might have to work after the age of 50 for example. Yanni is shocked and dismayed and once again, light at the end of the tunnel for him, he comes to you to tap you for a few more grand. Are you happy to give it to him? or would you be more likely to tell him to sort himself out a little first?


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Bare with me a moment - BUT the Euro (in theory) should/could/would work.

Every political region has rich bits (say Kusnacht, ZH) and poor bits (say Winterthur). The rich bits contribute a load of money - which the poor bits benefit from**.

It all works fine and dandy as long as the policies are centrally maintained - and consistent across all regions.

When it fails, is when policies are decided on at a sub-regional level. Which is exactly what happened in the EURO-zone. Each country was able to decide its own fiscal policies. The rich paid for the poor (welcome to socialism 101) - and in many of the cases - the poor failed to have adequate polices to ensure they stopped being poor.

Greece and co didn't have to go down the path they chose. Those in power had the option to use the money correctly - to push through social reform (a raising of the retirement age for example) - and develop their economy in a sustainable manner.

As it is now clear to see - that didn't happen.

A single currency across a vast economic region does make sense - as long as the regions fiscal policy is centrally and sustainably managed.


**For reference - within the Kanton of Zurich the tax paid by Kusnacht to the Kanton to support the poorer communties - is matched by the amount Winterthur takes out.
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You can groan as much as you want, if it makes you feel better...but I'm serious when I write that sooner or later the (dis)United Kingdom and their worthless currency will beg to enter the Euro. But I would keep them out, they would just cause trouble...
Stupid British colonial attitude..."We'll enter the Euro when the time is right...", the truth is...WE DON'T NEED AND WANT YOU! You don't have anything worth to give to the Eurozone.


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In case you haven't studied history, or nobody teached you...
He has gone beyond the content trolling world into the meta-trolling. He's hurting our speech centers now !
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