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Hi, can anybody help me with a BIG problem that we now seem to have, we moved here a year ago from South Africa, my husband is working on the oil rigs off shore Angola, we were advised that we would not be paying tax on his income before moving here, now that we are here have been advised that we might have to pay tax on his income, he is more that 180 a year out of the country, we thought that this was the loophole for no tax, now have no idea what to do or where to get advise, any help will be a great help, thanks in advance
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Re: Tax advise

If you are resident in CH you pay CH tax. In order to really take advantage of these tax-free regimes you have to, AUIU deposit the money somewhere like Dubai and sit on it or live in a tax-free country (like Dubai). As soon as it becomes income it's taxable where you are tax resident.

And, there is a difference between zero percent tax and tax free.

Don't take any advice from the forum on this, you need a tax advisor skilled in international tax law and they don't come cheap.
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Re: Tax advise

If the 180 days out country are spent on the rig, are you willing to pay Angolan tax?
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Re: Tax advise

Also what visa are you on?
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Hi, thanks for the advise, yes tax is being paid in Angola and we are on a B Permit here
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Re: Tax advise

The was I see in simplistic terms from what u've posted is you are both tax resident in CH and should pay CH tax, then you need to check if there is a DTA with Angola and therefore only pay the difference to the Swiss authorities.

See a tax advisor tho.
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Thank you for the reply SteK, making appointment as we speak with a tax consultant
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Sbrinz, how rude of to you to give such a reply, no more comment!!!!!!!!
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Hi, thanks for the advise, yes tax is being paid in Angola and we are on a B Permit here
If your away for 180 days your not entitled to a B permit, hand it in & you will no longer be resident so the problem evapoutares.
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Re: Tax advise

Sorry, but this case is way to complicated to ask advice for on an internet forum. You really ought to seek advice from an advisor skilled in international taxation.

I mean, you and your husband are resident here (registered on a B-permit). This could already indicate CH has full taxation rights on your worldwide income.
Where is your husband when he is not on an oil rig in Angola? Is he going to the rig on travel basis, permannent stints etc.
Is it really an off shore rig or is it located on the continental shelf of Angola?
Where is your husband's employer located? What is the status of your husband and his employer in connection to the oil rig? Owner, subcontractor/service provider? What is the tax status of the rig itself in Angola?
You say "tax has been paid in Angola"; by whom on what basis and what kind of tax?

Just a couple of things out of my head that need to be taken into account when assessing your tax situation.

Btw, CH and Angola have not concluded a treaty to avoid double taxation. On top of that CH generally does not give unilateral tax relief in case there is no treaty, so there is potential issue of double taxation.

In short: Get help from an international tax advisor asap.

I am not one to promote the big four firms in private cases but in this particular case, please do not use a Papa Joes tax accountancy but go for the bigger firms. They are, unfortunately, rather expensive.

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Sbrinz, how rude of to you to give such a reply, no more comment!!!!!!!!
Well maybe you do not like the truth? We all pay tax, and 15% isn't very much is it, why do you think you should escape tax while enjoying all the benefits? Why did you come here, maybe to escape African taxes? Bye the way, who told you the off shore earnings would be free of Swiss tax?
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Re: Tax advise

To be fair to the OP, she indicated tax was paid in Angola.

On top of that they are on a B-permit here, so he/they must have an employer here and will probably pay tax (Qst anyone?).

Somebody "advised" them that since hubby was in Angola for more than 183 days, he would not become taxable in Ch (which is wrong). Now OP may be faced with double taxation, which can add up.

(By the way, what happened to your earlier post?)

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