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Re: Can't back out of migros klubschule ?

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I know is stupid, but I did not want to share with the rest about my mum so I said yes to not have 12 people pity me.
Correct, that is very silly. You didn't have to share any details about your mum, you just had to say no because of "personal reasons" and that you would register next year.

EDIT - Plus, you have now changed your story. You made it sound like you accepted the renewal and then later your mum got sick. In fact, according to the above post you accepted knowing she was sick. Your initial posts were thus purposefully misleading.
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I appreciate your situation with your sick parent but seriously:

Expecting someone else to bear the costs of your misfortune is most certainly a since of entitlement.

And as for claiming to be a victim, when all the other party to the contract requires is that you stick to the terms you committed to.... well that is just childish.
Then again, would you pay for a service not received? AND the "contract" was oral nothing signed.

Thanks for your thoughts. I actually came to the forum to get constructive advise, legal/previous experience and not be character assassinated. I feel you get some kind of pleasure in telling what is right (which I know thanks) and have so far dedicated to insult. Please, weight in when you have something to say that may help.
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Old 10.01.2020, 13:54
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Then again, would you pay for a service not received? AND the "contract" was oral nothing signed.
But that's not correct, though. They provided the service but you backed out.

Sorry if that sounds harsh but I think you are looking at it the wrong way.
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Correct, that is very silly. You didn't have to share any details about your mum, you just had to say no because of "personal reasons" and that you would register next year.
Now that you say it sounds so obvious. I never thought about then! I thing that once you say it, everyone will prey on that and start asking "what is happening". You can't win in this situations and lesson learned: beating around the bush is no good. Mind that at the time of accepting the next side of the course I did not have the date of operation it was decided 24 hrs later. I literally landed and went to the hospital, it all happened super quickly.
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But that's not correct, though. They provided the service but you backed out.

Sorry if that sounds harsh but I think you are looking at it the wrong way.

Good point. I can see that.
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Now that you say it sounds so obvious. I never thought about then! I thing that once you say it, everyone will prey on that and start asking "what is happening". You can't win in this situations and lesson learned: beating around the bush is no good. Mind that at the time of accepting the next side of the course I did not have the date of operation it was decided 24 hrs later. I literally landed and went to the hospital, it all happened super quickly.
Well, in addition you have now changed your story. In the first posts of this thread you made it sound like you first accepted the renewal and then later your mum got sick. In fact, according to your latest post you accepted knowing she was sick. Your initial posts were thus purposefully misleading.
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Then again, would you pay for a service not received? AND the "contract" was oral nothing signed.



Oral is binding !

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Well, in addition you have now changed your story. In the first posts of this thread you made it sound like you first accepted the renewal and then later your mum got sick. In fact, according to your latest post you accepted knowing she was sick. Your initial posts were thus purposefully misleading.

Simplified yes. I knew she had been found ill but did not know that the operation would be scheduled in 6 days. It was a quick turnaround.
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Re: Can't back out of migros klubschula ?

You might not be aware but most contracts are are made verbally or even silently. Written contracts are the exception.

Also, a contract does not need a T&C as the law, the Swiss Code of Obligations, sets the default terms for many contracts. Here a link to an nonofficial English version provided by the Swiss government: https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...009/index.html
By default, if nothing else was agreed, revocation from a contract is only possible in a few distinct situations. See Art. 40b Code of Obligations https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a40b and Art. 14 KKG (Consumer Loan Act) https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a16

In general the correct assumptions is that revocation is not possible. Thus never sign or agree to something which you are not sure about. So not get pressured into a contract. If it is a written contract take time to read and understand its terms and condition. You know something is fish and not right if someone tells you you must sign on the spot and that you can are not allowed to take the contract with you do study it thoughtfully at home.
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I think I would have just said, "I'm not sure right now, I can confirm tomorrow / by the end of the week" or something similar. This would have been an acceptable and reasonable response, and your mother's illness would never have been a factor.
Exactly. They don't ask questions, they just want to organize the next month. People back out regularly, very few have the time and the money to do an intensive course for more than 3 or 4 months. The only kind of pressure is that the week before the deadline they ask it every day, but only as long as there are people declaring themselves as "unsure". After three months I needed a pause and I said "no".
If you say "yes" they send you the bill.
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