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Amazon 45 30.41%
Apple 32 21.62%
Facebook 12 8.11%
Google 59 39.86%
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Nonsense, not for the major players.
Says who? Microsoft went from $28-ish to $11-ish 10 years ago, Apple from ~$25 to ~$10, etc.
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Says who? Microsoft went from $28-ish to $11-ish 10 years ago, Apple from ~$25 to ~$10, etc.
A clue- 10 yrs ago.
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A clue- 10 yrs ago.
A clue: Apple fell from ~$100 to ~$55 between 2012 and 2013.
Similarly it since October its price has dropped from ~$230 to ~$155.
As I said, feel free to believe whatever you want, but it happens from time to time .
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A clue: Apple fell from ~$100 to ~$55 between 2012 and 2013.
Similarly it since October its price has dropped from ~$230 to ~$155.
As I said, feel free to believe whatever you want, but it happens from time to time .
Apple was 7 times the price you claim between 2012 - 2013, there was a 7:1 split on 9th June 14.

Price movements are quite normal. I made a lot of money out of apple last time.
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my portfolio has had a rough time the last months. losing some 20%.

before the drops, i was considering whether to move partly out of stocks and into bonds. still very conflicted on that. i find it difficult to lock in a long term measly 3% yield (US treasury zeros). on the other hand a 100% stock portfolio isn't very balanced.
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Apple was 7 times the price you claim between 2012 - 2013, there was a 7:1 split on 9th June 14.
Price movements are quite normal.
Blame yahoo finance my friend

My point still stands. Stock prices tend to go up in the long term, but from time to time they go down. I guess we both agree on this, don't we?
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Blame yahoo finance my friend

My point still stands. Stock prices tend to go up in the long term, but from time to time they go down. I guess we both agree on this, don't we?
The point I’m trying to make is if FB had a robust GDPR policy at the start of the year they would not be -25%. A shift in value which could have been prevented.
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I don't think their business-model is compatible with any kind of data-protection.

Some investors seem to agree.

Not all investors, or the stock would be worthless. But the possibility is there.
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They have no other option but to be compatible.
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Great interview with one of the best investor of all times. A must watch:

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my portfolio has had a rough time the last months. losing some 20%.

before the drops, i was considering whether to move partly out of stocks and into bonds. still very conflicted on that. i find it difficult to lock in a long term measly 3% yield (US treasury zeros). on the other hand a 100% stock portfolio isn't very balanced.
You would actually make only 1%-ish as the inflation is ~2% in US.
Having said that, I guess the main purpose of short term treasuries is to lower the portfolio volatility rather than to boost your income.
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The point I’m trying to make is if FB had a robust GDPR policy at the start of the year they would not be -25%. A shift in value which could have been prevented.

I respectfully disagree.
The stock price tanked at the end of July, following Q2 earnings call -- see attached screenshot. At the time the Cambidge Analytical scandal had already been in the news for months
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebo...a_data_scandal

IMHO what followed was a sentiment shift. FB used to be a Wall Street darling and it became an hated stock, meaning good news got ignored and bad news got emphasized. In fact the stock rebounded slightly following good Q3 results (Oct 30, you can see that in the chart), and then tanked again, together with the stock market.

If you look at this chart http://www.indexindicators.com/chart...rams-3y-x-x-x/ you will notice that less than 14% of the S&P 500 components are trading above their 200 day moving average (in fact, ~39% of them are currently trading at 52-week lows). FedEx, for example, is being priced as we were in a recession while we haven't even entered a bear market yet.
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Nvidia has lost about 50% since October.
I guess it is normal to expect growth stocks to fall hard from time to time...
Could be related to cryptocurrencies.
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I wonder if it's a good time to pick up AAPL stocks.


IIRC SNB sold a lot of their AAPL stocks in Autumn.



That was probably one of their smarter decisions.
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I wonder if it's a good time to pick up AAPL stocks.


IIRC SNB sold a lot of their AAPL stocks in Autumn.



That was probably one of their smarter decisions.
It is already up 2% today
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I wonder if it's a good time to pick up AAPL stocks.


IIRC SNB sold a lot of their AAPL stocks in Autumn.



That was probably one of their smarter decisions.
Back to where it was last year in terms of share price. An entry point or is tech now out of fashion?
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All tech stocks are overvalued, so stay away from it, even if Warren Buffett is invested in it. I would stock my cash into defensives and non-cyclical companies.

The only tech stock I’m invested in now is DocuSign (digital signatures), as I see this company thriving even im a recession to reduce costs on paper management.
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Seagate is not at all overvalued.
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All tech stocks are overvalued, so stay away from it, even if Warren Buffett is invested in it. I would stock my cash into defensives and non-cyclical companies.
Apple's forward PE is ~10
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AAPL...tistics?p=AAPL
while its PEG ratio is smaller than 1

Similarly, Broadcom's forward PE is ~9 while its PEG is 0.7
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AVGO...tistics?p=AAPL

How can you say that all tech stocks are overvalued?

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The only tech stock I’m invested in now is DocuSign (digital signatures), as I see this company thriving even im a recession to reduce costs on paper management.
I am not familiar with this stock, however it seems expensive to me
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/DOCU....tsrc=fin-srch
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